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TheLilSquaw -> RE: Swapping submissives for a few days? (2/25/2013 12:46:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 And this is the crux of my argument. You obviously talked about and planned the ultimate move so that you could be together. LDR's are ok and in the beginning it's fun. But to make that leap of faith and start believing it's for 'real' and 'serious' (assuming both sides are reading from the same page), plans are eventually made for the real deal - however long that takes. OP has already stated that isn't going to happen and it's cyber only. I didn't say they weren't legitimate. I just said they aren't "real". Real to me is something you can touch, smell, feel and interact with - not an image on a webcam. But I am interpreting OP's posts as being very one-sided in nature. She is young and impressionable and has taken the online bait hook, line, and sinker. I see no investment from the other side at all. Nope, when Phoenix and I 1st began I had no plans on moving to Maryland or leaving California at all. Yet, our relationship was REAL. I didn't even move to Maryland for him he was in NY. I eventually moved the furthest from California as I could without needing a pass port or to get on a plane or boat. Lol He happened to be lucky and living in NY at the time. Again, who are you or anyone else to dictate what is REAL for other people? Who are you to dictate what has to happen for a relationship to be REAL? Who are you to decide they are only okay in the beginning? IMO if the people involved consider it real, THAT is all that matters.

TheLilSquaw -> RE: Swapping submissives for a few days? (2/25/2013 12:50:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw Real couples swap all the time. Lol I've known a few d/s couples who swapped as well. Granted never online but eh... what ever works for them. As we have! [:)] But note the distinct difference - it's real - with real people and real interactions between everyone. Again why do you think you can dictate what is REAL and what isn't for other people? To ME this isn't any different than someone saying ... janedoe isn't a "real" slave because she doesn't do x, y or z. It's a true-ism that you are setting for other people's relationship which is bogus.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Swapping submissives for a few days? (2/25/2013 1:38:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw To ME this isn't any different than someone saying ... janedoe isn't a "real" slave because she doesn't do x, y or z. It's a true-ism that you are setting for other people's relationship which is bogus. That's a whole different ball of wax. I'm not talking about perceptions. And if you can't see the difference then I'm not going to 'educate' you. Main Entry: real Function:adjective Etymology:Middle English, real, relating to things (in law), from Anglo-French, from Medieval Latin & Late Latin; Medieval Latin realis relating to things (in law), from Late Latin, real, from Latin res thing, fact; akin to Sanskrit rayi property Date:14th century 1 : of or relating to fixed, permanent, or immovable things (as lands or tenements) 2 a : not artificial, fraudulent, or illusory : GENUINE real gold; also : being precisely what the name implies a real professional b : occurring or existing in actuality And seeing as we aren't talking about lands or tenements, that leaves definition 2. More specifically, 2a 'not illusory'. If you feel that cyber is real then be my guest. Try to convince any authorities that a cyber relationship/marriage is 'real' and that your other half is entitled to be a resident in the US, UK, or any other civilised western society/country. What's the first thing they ask?? "Have you actually MET, in person"!!

TheLilSquaw -> RE: Swapping submissives for a few days? (2/25/2013 1:49:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 If you feel that cyber is real then be my guest. Try to convince any authorities that a cyber relationship/marriage is 'real' and that your other half is entitled to be a resident in the US, UK, or any other civilised western society/country. What's the first thing they ask?? "Have you actually MET, in person"!! And IMO you are taking about perceptions of what YOU consider to be a real relationship vs what you consider to be "fake" because if something isn't real it's fake correct? And to ME as I said this just another true-ism like so many other's we see on this site. Where did I or the OP say that they were "married" via online or where anyone but YOU brought up marriage. People can have relationships without being married or even wanting marriage. Lol ETA: If you are strictly going by websters definitions for things, then no one on this site is a slave. :)

JeffBC -> RE: Swapping submissives for a few days? (2/25/2013 7:38:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 As a few have already said on here, any 'real true Dom' wouldn't be looking to swapping-out their sub partners except maybe in a play situation. HAHAHAHAHAHaaaaaaa Dude. I am the freakin disney dom on these forums. I'm looking to make Carol serve someone else sexually or possibly as a bottom. She is not poly, not a swinger, and not a masochist and generally has a strongly averse reaction to the idea. Trust me there is nothing "play" about it. When I get the right opportunity I'll be risking my marriage on it. Does that make me unreal?

Arturas -> RE: Swapping submissives for a few days? (2/25/2013 8:06:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder You still didn't answer my question though. Let's say you could no longer use a single toy. You could no longer give her pleasure or pain or even orgasms or sex. Would you still be interested in domination? Hopefully I was clearer. Domination is a state of being not dependent on toys or sex. I am interested in BDSM because it gives me and mine pleasure.

Arturas -> RE: Swapping submissives for a few days? (2/25/2013 8:35:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Artieboy, I happen to be very good friends with Looie. You read his book, so have I. Your pathetic insults are beneath contempt, but that is neither here nor there. Now where did you get the idea that I am claiming that I am a Dom? Your masterful skills don't seem to extend to the area of keeping your wide and brawling womans (or your) mouth shut. Maybe pick a book up on that. quote: I happen to be very good friends with Looie. Well, I respect his ideas and his writing and put both to good use when starting down this path. quote: Your pathetic insults are beneath contempt, but that is neither here nor there. What pathetic insult? quote: Now where did you get the idea that I am claiming that I am a Dom? Surely that would not be my presumption. quote: Your masterful skills don't seem to extend to the area of keeping your wide and brawling womans (or your) mouth shut. Maybe pick a book up on that. tammystarm said it better than I can: "if you don't like my post don't read it". Finally, since your posting is not improving at all I suppose I have to take my own advice to you. The OP said it best, "this is exhausting".

Arturas -> RE: Swapping submissives for a few days? (2/25/2013 8:38:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 And this is the crux of my argument. You obviously talked about and planned the ultimate move so that you could be together. LDR's are ok and in the beginning it's fun. But to make that leap of faith and start believing it's for 'real' and 'serious' (assuming both sides are reading from the same page), plans are eventually made for the real deal - however long that takes. OP has already stated that isn't going to happen and it's cyber only. I didn't say they weren't legitimate. I just said they aren't "real". Real to me is something you can touch, smell, feel and interact with - not an image on a webcam. But I am interpreting OP's posts as being very one-sided in nature. She is young and impressionable and has taken the online bait hook, line, and sinker. I see no investment from the other side at all. Nope, when Phoenix and I 1st began I had no plans on moving to Maryland or leaving California at all. Yet, our relationship was REAL. I didn't even move to Maryland for him he was in NY. I eventually moved the furthest from California as I could without needing a pass port or to get on a plane or boat. Lol He happened to be lucky and living in NY at the time. Again, who are you or anyone else to dictate what is REAL for other people? Who are you to dictate what has to happen for a relationship to be REAL? Who are you to decide they are only okay in the beginning? IMO if the people involved consider it real, THAT is all that matters. THIS.

xssve -> RE: Swapping submissives for a few days? (3/5/2013 6:16:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AmbitiousLauren Hello Doms, Thank you for taking your time to read this. My Dom is looking to swap me with you sub as a learning experience. It will only be 3-7 days. Please message me if you are interested. I will give you my yahoo to chat. Thank you Sir lauren Good luck and have fun.

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