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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 7:52:50 AM   
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Well, that is like asking what separates consensual intercourse from rape. It should be obvious, yes? (Andrea Dworkin notwithstanding)

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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 8:00:36 AM   
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I'm trying to figure out what separates rape from play.


Only one thing does: Consent between two adults.

The word "no" goes both ways: for the top and the bottom. Both can (and do) have limits.

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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 8:03:45 AM   
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I'm fascinated with the sky-scraper blackboard in your photo. How did that little professor in the front manage to write on it from top-to-bottom and left-to-right. Did he have a Dune-like anti-gravity belt?

Take heart that you didn't lead this thread with the *c* word.

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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 8:05:04 AM   
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Correct both are valid, but let me try and change perspectives what happens if all was cool before the session began, and say everything went well but after, say the next day you have two cops coming to your door and arresting you for rape and all you can tell them is we agreed upon it. At that point your basically screwed correct?

Btw there is a new thread in the off topic section for this,
Thank You!

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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 8:12:30 AM   
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No some boards in Ivy league schools can like move up and down, but its a picture of Einstein proving a point when he was in college that faith in religion is just as plausible as science is in the modern world.

He did this by explaining how the evolutionary cycle was an assumption at the time and how if the professor could not see, feel, or hear an ape transform into a human, how then do we really know we came from monkeys.

He used another example of how does the professor know that he has a brain, can he feel is brain, can he hear his, can he even see his brain.

He makes the point that we must faith in order to come to some conclusion, as billions of people around the world have as much a valid point of faith in the existence of God as scientist do in evolution theory.

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I'm fascinated with the sky-scraper blackboard in your photo. How did that little professor in the front manage to write on it from top-to-bottom and left-to-right. Did he have a Dune-like anti-gravity belt?

Take heart that you didn't lead this thread with the *c* word.


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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 8:13:26 AM   
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I am a sub and I am orginally from Rochester,NY too!I agree with what you said RochSub.Well said.

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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 8:24:12 AM   
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As do I,
Thank you for the agreement,

I must ask to move on though,
Thank you

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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:05:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: iamwhoiamabc123

Lol again you keeping on assuming I'm trying to learn how to be a submissive, I'm not people I'm not a dominant either thats why I identify as "vanilla" because I'm neither, And good job you noticed the two or three post out of the 7 that were actually useful the rest were a waste of space and I'm pretty sure I mentioned those people.

Maybe somebody needs to stop quoting certain sentences and start trying to see the bigger picture of meaning behind the words I put in bold lettering.


So, first you post such a general question that no one could possibly answer it completely, other than generalities. You also used language that you thought was cute. Then you got upset when everyone took it seriously and threw a temper tantrum. Then you wanted the thread deleted because it wasn't going the way you wanted. Then you keep getting upset because everyone keeps remembering your bad behavior.

Here's the thing: As a submissive, not everything is about you. Your temper tantrum, snark and flippancy within this thread is not going to endear you to a Domme. She's not going to want to deal with someone that tells her how everything should go the way you want.

Male submissives far outnumber female Dominants. You're one in a massive crowd. You need to bring your best presentation to catch her attention. Honestly, this thread does not do you any favors and you're up against men that present themselves as a much better package.

So, I would suggest five things to you:

1) Stop and think about what you're typing. This is a medium where the only impression are the words on the screen. We don't have body language or facial expression to see if you're joking or not. Plus, you have no experiences here, so the posters don't know your sense of humor to decide if you're being cheeky or just being an asshole.

2) Manners. You're offering to be of service to someone else. Women don't like to deal with jerks and those women are your target audience.

3) Read the sticky at the top of the forum. It has good information.

4) Submission isn't about your dick or your orgasms. It's about a symbiotic relationships where both sides get what they need. If the only thing you offer is sex, then most of the women will not be interested. Face it, if one of these Dominant women said they wanted to have sex and gave out an address, there'd be dozens of men outside within an hour.

5) Rein in the drama. The temper tantrum was childish and unattractive. No one wants to deal with someone that throws a hissy when they don't get what they want.


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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:14:21 AM   
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Thanks for the explanation. I didn't know that.

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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:15:51 AM   
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I believe we are over the post, but I might just change this post to "Inner release of stupid menwho dont know anything about the lifestyle rage posting thread" lol I mean common I apologized already I dont need more lecturing even after identifying that I'm not even a sub.

Thank you regardless of your ignorant posting,
lol I get that it was rude, I understand,
How you people stop trying to belittle me ever thought about that,
I guess not!

How about you guys just try breathing excise and stop bashing on me I started a differnt post that is respectful and completly in line, Im going to say one last time I dont need disipline on how to post a thread.
I'm sure the members appriecate where you are coming from, but I'm also sure the have had enough of it too and if not continue post here and look like idiots. I simply do care anymore about this thread.

Again I would like to think the people that did decide to bash on me and I am taking this information all into account, for future reference.

Thanks again bye!
quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: iamwhoiamabc123

Lol again you keeping on assuming I'm trying to learn how to be a submissive, I'm not people I'm not a dominant either thats why I identify as "vanilla" because I'm neither, And good job you noticed the two or three post out of the 7 that were actually useful the rest were a waste of space and I'm pretty sure I mentioned those people.

Maybe somebody needs to stop quoting certain sentences and start trying to see the bigger picture of meaning behind the words I put in bold lettering.


So, first you post such a general question that no one could possibly answer it completely, other than generalities. You also used language that you thought was cute. Then you got upset when everyone took it seriously and threw a temper tantrum. Then you wanted the thread deleted because it wasn't going the way you wanted. Then you keep getting upset because everyone keeps remembering your bad behavior.

Here's the thing: As a submissive, not everything is about you. Your temper tantrum, snark and flippancy within this thread is not going to endear you to a Domme. She's not going to want to deal with someone that tells her how everything should go the way you want.

Male submissives far outnumber female Dominants. You're one in a massive crowd. You need to bring your best presentation to catch her attention. Honestly, this thread does not do you any favors and you're up against men that present themselves as a much better package.

So, I would suggest five things to you:

1) Stop and think about what you're typing. This is a medium where the only impression are the words on the screen. We don't have body language or facial expression to see if you're joking or not. Plus, you have no experiences here, so the posters don't know your sense of humor to decide if you're being cheeky or just being an asshole.

2) Manners. You're offering to be of service to someone else. Women don't like to deal with jerks and those women are your target audience.

3) Read the sticky at the top of the forum. It has good information.

4) Submission isn't about your dick or your orgasms. It's about a symbiotic relationships where both sides get what they need. If the only thing you offer is sex, then most of the women will not be interested. Face it, if one of these Dominant women said they wanted to have sex and gave out an address, there'd be dozens of men outside within an hour.

5) Rein in the drama. The temper tantrum was childish and unattractive. No one wants to deal with someone that throws a hissy when they don't get what they want.



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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:16:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: iamwhoiamabc123

Lol again you keeping on assuming I'm trying to learn how to be a submissive, I'm not people I'm not a dominant either thats why I identify as "vanilla" because I'm neither, And good job you noticed the two or three post out of the 7 that were actually useful the rest were a waste of space and I'm pretty sure I mentioned those people.

Maybe somebody needs to stop quoting certain sentences and start trying to see the bigger picture of meaning behind the words I put in bold lettering.


Then why are you here? Are you writing a research paper for school?


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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:18:38 AM   
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I also like the second part to your posting, you could have just said that.

But no you had to be an ass hole about it and completely ignore that I'm NOT a submissive thank you.

You should really think before you type and take your own advice.

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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:18:56 AM   
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Oh for fuck sake

Youth clearly is wasted on the young

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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:19:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: iamwhoiamabc123

I dont need more lecturing



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Thank you regardless of your ignorant posting


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but I'm also sure the have had enough of it too and if not continue post here and look like idiots. I simply do care anymore about this thread.


quote:

Again I would like to think the people that did decide to bash on me and I am taking this information all into account, for future reference.



Thank you for proving my point.

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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:25:13 AM   
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Its not just a research paper my friend its a quantitative analysis on life and the people that live in it. All though I can't technically use the information I get from this forum I can use it as a reference, but I hope now you can understand why I dont need a lecture on formality I just wanted a conversation and really all Im still getting aside from a select few people are still just a lecture on formality.

Please I ask you all to simply stop posting in this thread, its pointless to percist in something that has already surpassed way beyond the barriers of a conversation, into who is right and who is wrong.

I have raised the white flag already now you guys just look like assholes restating the obvious mistake I made of posting this thread!
Thank you
and
Good Luck posting
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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim


quote:

ORIGINAL: iamwhoiamabc123

Lol again you keeping on assuming I'm trying to learn how to be a submissive, I'm not people I'm not a dominant either thats why I identify as "vanilla" because I'm neither, And good job you noticed the two or three post out of the 7 that were actually useful the rest were a waste of space and I'm pretty sure I mentioned those people.

Maybe somebody needs to stop quoting certain sentences and start trying to see the bigger picture of meaning behind the words I put in bold lettering.


Then why are you here? Are you writing a research paper for school?



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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:26:14 AM   
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Since you only want education on your own terms., OP, and done in a way that nobody will give their personal opinions on your post, I suggest this book thread to you. http://www.collarchat.com/m_1726118/tm.htm


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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:27:25 AM   
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Your point is invalid you can't just pick and choose what I say and then say you have proved your point, you point isn't solid it has no foundation, but whatever you say!
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: iamwhoiamabc123

I dont need more lecturing



quote:

Thank you regardless of your ignorant posting


quote:

but I'm also sure the have had enough of it too and if not continue post here and look like idiots. I simply do care anymore about this thread.


quote:

Again I would like to think the people that did decide to bash on me and I am taking this information all into account, for future reference.



Thank you for proving my point.


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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:28:31 AM   
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Thank you finally some valid information taht isn't biased opinions that have no room for education!
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Since you only want education on your own terms., OP, and done in a way that nobody will give their personal opinions on your post, I suggest this book thread to you. http://www.collarchat.com/m_1726118/tm.htm



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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:32:26 AM   
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Psst, those books were written by people who didn't bother consulting you before they put ink to paper either

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RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? - 5/7/2013 9:37:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: iamwhoiamabc123

What would be your perfect submissive little bitch?


Let's start with... Don't come over like a whining little dick.

There'll be others, but I'd say you need to work on that one as a matter of urgency.

But, on the basis that I can imagine how you're likely to respond to this little gem...

The other quality that is highly valued, is the ability to do a little introspection.

Let's do a little work-shopping...

Look through your posts on this thread... can you see any which might show you in a less than flattering light?

Are there any that might give someone the, doubtless completely wrong, impression that you're a whining little shitbag?



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