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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 3:21:11 PM   
VideoAdminChi


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I do. Tickets vanish when the thread is pulled.


They don't disappear in the moderator interface, but it makes sense that they would disappear in yours when the thread is pulled.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 3:22:26 PM   
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And yet on 5/29, 5 weeks ago, you sent out of the blue, a gold bordered message that you were giving a *FINAL WARNING*... what was that, on your first day on the job?

Since no other mod had said they had a problem with anything in that thread, and in fact zero warnings had been received (and no posts had been removed from that thread, in spite of your claims to the contrary), you've just basically admitted that you were either carrying a grudge from before you were a mod, or that you were using your new position dishonestly. Either way, you need to step down to maintain the integrity of the position, wouldn't you agree?

And don't insult our intelligence by saying that all complaints should go to VM Alpha, when they refuse to open messages on the matter, going on 4 weeks after they were sent.

I'll expect to see this deleted, and my account wiped, just as happened after I complained openly about Moderator 11's blatant abuses.


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminRho

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

None of this explains the hastily edited posts that have been reported or tickets that just "vanish". In fact, in the case of the "vanishing tickets" it would kind of support that the admins are doing something . Certainly, I can't make a ticket vanish.


I've been a moderator for a little over a month. If those things did indeed take place, they took place before my time, but yet, I still get bashed for them.

And to put something in perspective: I cleaned up a ticket from someone that I had previously put on moderation (and received page after page of hate mail) complaining that s/he was tired of Mods protecting the special ones. When in fact, the person he claimed was protected, had also been put on moderation by me the very same week as ticket maker. (And again with page after page of hate mail) The irony was epic.

That said, I will apologize about the first Zimmerman thread. It is locked due to me. After spending 8 hours of reading that thread and trying to get some work done, I was still not through all 66 pages. So, it remained locked while I spent the holiday with my family, as they are my priority.

While you may not believe it, I put a great deal of effort into trying to be fair. I have modded people that I consider friends. We receive massive amounts of hate mail, some from people we consider friends under our regulars nicks.

We are not allowed to speak for the site. We have been given the rules and are expected to follow them. But, I'm also happy to explain a decision as long as I'm not approached with hostility.

We are not infallible and I can honestly say that I volunteered to do this to attempt to help, not harm. While the claim has been made that it happens in a black box, the opposite is also true. There are things that get said to us, simply because we are anonymous.

I read the complaint threads with the hope that I can find a way to keep the balance while in this role. A little return courtesy of putting yourselves in my shoes would be greatly appreciated.

Overall, I think this is a great forum with many different views represented and a great deal of experiences to share.








< Message edited by Powergamz1 -- 7/6/2013 3:25:39 PM >


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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 3:22:44 PM   
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Im sorry, yes, I dont know about on your side, but, I have noticed on my side that tickets have disappeared. When I went to look for the specific thread, the thread was gone as well. I asked, and was told that when a thread is "pulled" from the forum, meaning it "disappears", then we dont see it and we wont see the tickets either.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 3:23:56 PM   
DaddySatyr


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi

1. Poster1 writes something inflammatory
2. Poster2 reports it
3. Within an hour after writing the post, Poster1 thinks better of the post and edits it
4. Hours later moderator gets to the ticket, does not see a violation and notices that the post has been edited. Moderator writes to Poster2 and says "I don't see a violation but notice that the post has been edited."



Yes. That's exactly what I believe.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 3:24:56 PM   
DaddySatyr


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi

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I do. Tickets vanish when the thread is pulled.


They don't disappear in the moderator interface, but it makes sense that they would disappear in yours when the thread is pulled.


Except that the ticket disappeared but the thread didn't.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 3:51:59 PM   
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A gentle reminder, please get back on topic everyone. Thank you.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quit Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 4:02:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Normally, I don't think changing the title of a thread should be allowed. In fact; I think it should be a TOS violation but I just can't look at the extra "E" on "Quit", anymore.

I apologize for my CDO, people.

LOL! I try to leave my red pen at work, but I noticed that too.

Thank you, glad I'm not the only one.

I did that once and didn't know I was allowed to change it, got to were I couldn't look at my own thread.

Don't know what browser you're using but explorer just added spellcheck. It has made my spelling a lot more consistent and I don't have to rush back in and edit a post as often.

Same here


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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 4:05:24 PM   
DaddySatyr


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

A gentle reminder, please get back on topic everyone. Thank you.



I thought people, complaining to the moderators was part of the topic?

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Quite Complaining to the Mods




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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 5:01:47 PM   
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Has anyone seen the preview to the movie "Purge" ? Why not have a period of time, say 24 or 48 hours where anything goes with the exception of racial slurs and that sort of thing ?? That would indeed be entertaining.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 5:04:28 PM   
DaddySatyr


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Has anyone seen the preview to the movie "Purge" ?



I started a thread about it. Mine was more focused on crimes, though as opposed to this place.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 5:57:12 PM   
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Has anyone seen the preview to the movie "Purge" ? Why not have a period of time, say 24 or 48 hours where anything goes with the exception of racial slurs and that sort of thing ?? That would indeed be entertaining.

After the departure of the unlamented Mod XI the P&R board was pretty much left alone by the mods for quite a while. When Alpha took over we started getting modded again and the rules have tightened up considerably over the last 6 months or so.

I actually feel bad for the mods here, we're a bunch of sadistic contrarian sorts and we like to argue so this subforum must be a quagmire for them.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 6:09:04 PM   
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we're a bunch of sadistic contrarian sorts


Speak for yourself

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 6:21:18 PM   
DomKen


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we're a bunch of sadistic contrarian sorts


Speak for yourself

Sure whatever you say Nurse Ratchet.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 6:26:37 PM   
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we're a bunch of sadistic contrarian sorts


Speak for yourself

I agree with Ken's characterization of 'contrarian.' That's where all the fun is in posting to these threads. I worry that some posters or trolls are overly sensitive or devious and tickets are generated too easily. Once a thread has been frozen it is for all intents and purposes dead meat. Many a vigorous and interesting debate has been chilled needlessly imo. Just my

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 6:30:57 PM   
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Pft.. I was talking about the sadistic part

Think they will ever figure it out?

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 6:31:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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we're a bunch of sadistic contrarian sorts


Speak for yourself

Sure whatever you say Nurse Ratchet.


Dont make me go get my pills

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Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 6:35:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

we're a bunch of sadistic contrarian sorts


Speak for yourself

Sure whatever you say Nurse Ratchet.


Dont make me go get my pills

Pills I'm all for. It's the electroshock I'd like to avoid.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 6:37:27 PM   
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Money is tight... gotta save on the power bill this month

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RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
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Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 7:04:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

we're a bunch of sadistic contrarian sorts


Speak for yourself

Sure whatever you say Nurse Ratchet.


Dont make me go get my pills

Pills I'm all for. It's the electroshock I'd like to avoid.

TENs units are funnnnn.

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RE: Zimmerman Threads -- Quite Complaining to the Mods - 7/6/2013 7:07:27 PM   
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Tease!

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Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

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