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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 8:38:14 PM   
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If George were black, Crump likely would never have gotten involved, and the case would have stopped at the SPD.


Not that it would have solved anything of course. Let's say there was no arrest, and no charges. Assuming Zimmeman was still other than Black, it would have just subliminated the anger whether it was unfounded or not.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 9:05:09 PM   
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I think O'Mara was right on the nose, that if George Zimmerman had been black, he never would have been charged. I can't see how anyone who paid attention to the case could disagree. They didn't just brush the shooting off when the Sanford Police was investigating, they were actually being very thorough, and just didn't have a reason to charge him.

The reason he ended up getting charged, was due to a false narrative put together by Ben Crump, Ryan Julison, etc, that ended up bringing a lot of political pressure...a false narrative that many still believe even after the trial soundly proved it wrong.

If George were black, Crump likely would never have gotten involved, and the case would have stopped at the SPD.

Scott who shot a white 17 year old also went to trial

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 9:07:14 PM   
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His trial ended a week after Zimmerman's and he too was acquitted.


Well maybe we should have a riot. Where is 3,000 miles away from there ? And let's have it on the way to a hspital so we can stop peoplle from taking their kid to emergency.......

T^T

Lets not and congratulate ourselves on superior behaviour

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 9:45:10 PM   
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Lets not and congratulate ourselves on superior behaviour


Especially since "we" might not engage in it.......lol.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 10:16:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

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Lets not and congratulate ourselves on superior behaviour


Especially since "we" might not engage in it.......lol.

T^T

"We" didn't.
Of course it didn't fit the narrative so most of us didn't know about it.


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 11:02:17 PM   
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You missed the triple negative or whatever it is. It is about time for White people to have a riot. Tell you what, that would make the government take fucking notice. We are still the majority. But really we need to get the brothers with us man, we know how to get solidarity going. Did it in Europe for a couple of millenia. Get Black and White together and we can fix this motherfucking mess.

Quit letting them manipulate you into having six month long discussions about EVERY POSSIBLE racial aspect of EVERY INJUSTICE DONE BY THE GOVERNMENT and start to figure out who the fucking real enemy is. I will be the first. Really. Throw me up some money and I will go to Martin's Parents' home and talk to them. Let's have a riot, but ALL be in on it.

Let the status quoers' plans BACKFIRE on them.

Well maybe not this time, but one of these times one of the enlightened people will get an edge in on it and cause a backlash the government will NEVER FORGET. Shit like this happened in other countries y'know, and that is one of the major reasons their governments are alot more responsive to the People even without our much vaunted yet useless Constitution. Those governemnts have learned that things work alot easier with the WILLING coperation of the People. The US goverment is young and is acting like a toddler with power, like that kid on the Twilight Zone with all the powers and shit, remember that ?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 11:40:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

You missed the triple negative or whatever it is. It is about time for White people to have a riot. Tell you what, that would make the government take fucking notice. We are still the majority. But really we need to get the brothers with us man, we know how to get solidarity going. Did it in Europe for a couple of millenia. Get Black and White together and we can fix this motherfucking mess.

Quit letting them manipulate you into having six month long discussions about EVERY POSSIBLE racial aspect of EVERY INJUSTICE DONE BY THE GOVERNMENT and start to figure out who the fucking real enemy is. I will be the first. Really. Throw me up some money and I will go to Martin's Parents' home and talk to them. Let's have a riot, but ALL be in on it.

Let the status quoers' plans BACKFIRE on them.

Well maybe not this time, but one of these times one of the enlightened people will get an edge in on it and cause a backlash the government will NEVER FORGET. Shit like this happened in other countries y'know, and that is one of the major reasons their governments are alot more responsive to the People even without our much vaunted yet useless Constitution. Those governemnts have learned that things work alot easier with the WILLING coperation of the People. The US goverment is young and is acting like a toddler with power, like that kid on the Twilight Zone with all the powers and shit, remember that ?

T^T

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 11:50:15 PM   
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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 4:25:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

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His trial ended a week after Zimmerman's and he too was acquitted.


Well maybe we should have a riot. Where is 3,000 miles away from there ? And let's have it on the way to a hspital so we can stop peoplle from taking their kid to emergency.......

T^T

Lets not and congratulate ourselves on superior behaviour


Different case and evidence though.

In Zimmerman's case, he wasn't going to be charged until political pressure from a false narrative forced the governor to select a special prosecutor to do it. If Zimmerman were black, that political pressure would never have been brought.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 11:27:48 AM   
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Ignoring reality is starting to look like your trademark.

I would rather be White
I would rather be white


Still feeling stung because I shot down your bullshit arguments.

As for your two finds (oh that must have made you feel so good!) one is by a nutcase that I never bother to read anymore and the other isn't even addressed to me so I never saw it.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 11:30:01 AM   
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White.


Finally! Someone with guts and honesty.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 11:35:16 AM   
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"If Zimmerman were black, that political pressure would never have been brought. "

Which makes it discrimination. Maybe Zimmerman should sue the government for a civil rights violation then. The prosecutor was definitely an agent of the government. If it can be established that race was the cause, he would have a case.

That might not be wise though. Like when my buddy beat the state after getting caught with his grow room and selling weed. He beat them to a pulp on appeal and was going to sue them for his lights and hydro system back. I told him, hey, maybe you should just leave well enough alone..... He would have become a big target with a big red X on his forehead, especially if he won. You know there are so many laws they can get anyone on something.

But then he might be able to do it just to stick it up their asses and then leave the country. He is half South american something right ? He could move there and he can even get there after being put on the no-fly list. My buddy had a different situation because he had no intention of moving out of the country, anymore. Actually he was going to try to hook up with Chavez and start a movement for political change but that never happened. Without something like that he is staying, so fukit.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 3:05:14 PM   
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Yeah, I'll eagerly look forward to the facts on that one coming out.
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

Did Zimmerman cause the crash by following these people?


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

"George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle, police said today.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of a family of four -- two parents and two children -- trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla. at approximately 5:45 p.m. Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue/story?id=19735432




The crash was real... his "rescue" was not according to some. Lets stay tuned and find out, shall we?



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 3:07:21 PM   
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No, you keep dishonestly refusing to admit that not only has your question been answered, it has been exposed for the fallacy it is.


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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

Well, I've seen excuses, dodges, accusations and insults... but I've yet to see one person actually answer the question.

Kana has a point that enough money can trump all else but that is still not answering the question.

And it is a simple question: If you were a defendant in the American Justice System, would you rather be black or white?



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 6:51:43 PM   
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Still feeling stung because I shot down your bullshit arguments.

"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble... it's what you know for sure that just ain't so." ~Mark Twain

K.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 9:03:12 PM   
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Someone HAS to say the "last words" around here.

I will start...........
****last words****


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 9:07:24 PM   
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Sorry, not so fast newby.


Free Zimmerman our hero

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 9:12:49 PM   
Marini


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Your hero?
eww

*I realize many that post here, are only trying to ruffle feathers.*


What a low bar you set for your hero's.
Too bad for you.
***last words***




< Message edited by Marini -- 7/28/2013 9:14:56 PM >


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 9:29:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Raiikun


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

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His trial ended a week after Zimmerman's and he too was acquitted.


Well maybe we should have a riot. Where is 3,000 miles away from there ? And let's have it on the way to a hspital so we can stop peoplle from taking their kid to emergency.......

T^T

Lets not and congratulate ourselves on superior behaviour


Different case and evidence though.

In Zimmerman's case, he wasn't going to be charged until political pressure from a false narrative forced the governor to select a special prosecutor to do it. If Zimmerman were black, that political pressure would never have been brought.

That is why so few people know about it.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/28/2013 9:37:46 PM   
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That is why so few people know about it.


The nation didnt know about it because those who did felt it was handled in an appropriate manner. There are other major differences in the two cases.

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