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That is why so few people know about it.

The nation didnt know about it because those who did felt it was handled in an appropriate manner. There are other major differences in the two cases.

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That is why so few people know about it.

The nation didnt know about it because those who did felt it was handled in an appropriate manner. There are other major differences in the two cases.

Among them that the 17 year old never laid a hand on Scott

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That is why so few people know about it.

The nation didnt know about it because those who did felt it was handled in an appropriate manner. There are other major differences in the two cases.

Among them that the 17 year old never laid a hand on Scott

Do you have to lay a hand on someone? The kid charged at him after being told the man held a gun.

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No, you keep dishonestly refusing to admit that not only has your question been answered, it has been exposed for the fallacy it is.

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I said I fully supported his acquittal.
I don't think he did have to lay a hand on him, what does that do to the page after page of drivel about Zimmerman wasn't injured badly enough?

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No, you keep dishonestly refusing to admit that not only has your question been answered, it has been exposed for the fallacy it is.

A few people have answered the question but not you. It is a simple question. All you have to do is write "black" or "white." Yet you continually refuse. Why? Why does it scare you so to admit that you'd rather be white? Well, the answer is obvious... sure, you can point to this particular case or that particular case thinking that they prove me wrong but a few isolated exceptions does not make a trend. The vast majority of criminal case go unremarked by the media and anyone who thinks that black people and white people are treated equally in the criminal justice system is blind to reality.

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I'd rather be what I was born, which is not white,

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than let a racist push off those two cards on me.

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And I've not only posted many times about the disparity in the CJ system,

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I'm out in the real world working on solutions.

What have you ever done?

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I'd rather be what I was born, which is not white,

Well at least you finally answered the question... I'm not sure I believe you, though.

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than let a racist push off those two cards on me.

I'm not the one denying racism in the justice system or defending a man who stalked and shot an unarmed teenager because he saw a "punk" and an "asshole" instead of a human being.

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And I've not only posted many times about the disparity in the CJ system,

Then why have you been defending it?

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I'm out in the real world working on solutions.

What have you ever done?

Maybe more than you, maybe less than you. I don't know and I really give a shit because you are not the standard upon which I measure myself.

I'm tired of going around in circles and playing the "last words" game so if you really want the last words, go ahead. For me the bottom line in the Zimmerman case is, and will remain, that Zimmerman created the situation. The law may have failed in its responsibility to hold him accountable but he will never escape moral responsibility.

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That is why so few people know about it.

The nation didnt know about it because those who did felt it was handled in an appropriate manner. There are other major differences in the two cases.

Among them that the 17 year old never laid a hand on Scott

Do you have to lay a hand on someone? The kid charged at him after being told the man held a gun.

I said I fully supported his acquittal.
I don't think he did have to lay a hand on him, what does that do to the page after page of drivel about Zimmerman wasn't injured badly enough?

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I said I fully supported his acquittal.
I don't think he did have to lay a hand on him, what does that do to the page after page of drivel about Zimmerman wasn't injured badly enough?

This one was caught in the act of committing a crime.

This one was breaking into the homeowners property.

This one got caught red handed.

This one was told the guy was holding a gun.

This one charged so the other could get away.

Do you need it spelled out more to you?

This one was in the act of committing a crime, got caught, was told a gun was being held on him and to not move until the police arrived.

T was walking home with skittles and a tea. Never once told anyone had a gun. Wasnt committing any crimes.

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Apparently you see that that was mindless drivel by people grasping at anything to make Zimmerman guilty.
Zimmerman had no point were there was a reason to tell Martin he was armed as the attack came as soon as they met.
Seriously what would your position be if it had gone like this
"Do you have a problem"
"No, I have a gun"
Zimmerman was just out to get a loaf of bread.
And most damning for Zimmerman , he wasn't black

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Apparently you see that that was mindless drivel by people grasping at anything to make Zimmerman guilty.
Zimmerman had no point were there was a reason to tell Martin he was armed as the attack came as soon as they met.
Seriously what would your position be if it had gone like this
"Do you have a problem"
"No, I have a gun"
Zimmerman was just out to get a loaf of bread.
And most damning for Zimmerman , he wasn't black

Mindless drivel?

Gee, thank you.

I described the differences in the cases.

YOU are the one who brought race into it.

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You were answering my post about the silliness of so many people claiming that Zimmerman wasn't hurt bad enough to claim self defense with your list of differences.

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Mindless drivel has no relationship to the race issue which numerous people made the whole reason that Zimmerman was guilty, if you think race just got brought into it by me you need to reread this thread.

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This time you ignored my reference to the only opportunity that Zimmerman had to inform Martin he was armed.
dodging around won't work.

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You were answering my post about the silliness of so many people claiming that Zimmerman wasn't hurt bad enough to claim self defense with your list of differences.

That, according to you, was a major difference in the cases? Really? I have a far differing view of how those injuries were sustained.

Trayvon was doing nothing wrong... he was committing no crime to be chased for, no crime to be questioned about... no crime to be detained for... except in Zimmerman's mind.

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Mindless drivel has no relationship to the race issue which numerous people made the whole reason that Zimmerman was guilty, if you think race just got brought into it by me you need to reread this thread.

I dont need too. By now, you know damn well I have repeatedly said that race played no point in the pulling of the trigger... nor did it in the Scott case. You can toss that "mindless drivel" at others. Dont toss that at me.

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This time you ignored my reference to the only opportunity that Zimmerman had to inform Martin he was armed.
dodging around won't work.

He had every opportunity when he rushed into the area he saw T enter into and say "I live here and I have a gun, why are you here?"

Im still chuckling as these details of the "rescue" unfold.

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And we would have been instantly inundated with Zimmerman is guilty because telling Martin he had a gun forced Martin to defend himself.
And there is no evidence Zimmerman "rushed" anywhere.
And still you while saying that while Scott didn't need to touched there was no problem with questioning that Zimmerman had serious enough injuries to fight back, by your own words no injury was needed.

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And we would have been instantly inundated with Zimmerman is guilty because telling Martin he had a gun forced Martin to defend himself.
And there is no evidence Zimmerman "rushed" anywhere.
And still you while saying that while Scott didn't need to touched there was no problem with questioning that Zimmerman had serious enough injuries to fight back, by your own words no injury was needed.

Proof of the rush is on the phone. He certainly wasnt walking at a leisurely pace.

No, we would have had a kid who would have stayed hidden in fear until the police arrived. Would you go up against a man if you knew, or suspected, he had a gun?

Scott was different in that he didnt hide his intent, he didnt hide his motive, he had motive to suspect the kids as they were caught in the midst of a crime and I have always supported homeowners protecting their property.

Had the Zimmerman case come under the same instances, ie: protecting his property, I would have agreed Zimmerman was right in his actions.

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I have
So it is Zimmerman's fault that Martin made the false assumption that it was safe to beat him up