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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/26/2013 11:18:18 PM   
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And looking at the list of books he's written, he's something of a gun nut too.

So if they were about flowers you'd be calling him a "flower nut"?

K.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/26/2013 11:21:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

And looking at the list of books he's written, he's something of a gun nut too.

<just sayin>

So if they were about flowers you'd be calling him a "flower nut"?

<just sayin>

K.



Eerrm... yes, of course.

And if he'd written dozens of books about cats he'd be a..... cat nut.

<just sayin>



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/26/2013 11:26:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

And looking at the list of books he's written, he's something of a gun nut too.

<just sayin>

So if they were about flowers you'd be calling him a "flower nut"?

<just sayin>

K.



Eerrm... yes, of course.

And if he'd written dozens of books about cats he'd be a..... cat nut.

<just sayin>



that would make him an enthusiast, or an expert, not a nut.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/26/2013 11:31:40 PM   
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And another black teenager is shot by a white guy for nothing...

the teen was near Landry's vehicle when he was shot... the vehicle was in the driveway behind a gate just a few feet from the house's backdoor... Video shows the teen climbing over Landry's fence.

Poor kid, he probably just wanted to ask if Landry had any Skittles.

K.




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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/26/2013 11:33:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Eerrm... yes, of course.

Ah, I see. You're a "nut nut".

K.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/26/2013 11:34:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

Eerrm... yes, of course.

Ah, I see. You're a "nut nut".

K.



No, silly!

I haven't written any books on nuts.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 7:20:05 AM   
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Did Zimmerman cause the crash by following these people?


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"George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle, police said today.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of a family of four -- two parents and two children -- trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla. at approximately 5:45 p.m. Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue/story?id=19735432




The crash was real... his "rescue" was not according to some. Lets stay tuned and find out, shall we?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 11:50:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

And a very nice guy in person as well.


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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He is a cop, it is the farthest thing there is from a law expert. Keep sucking that ass shiteater.

Actually, he is a...

former Vice Chairman of the Forensic Evidence Committee of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers (NACDL), and is believed to be the only non-attorney ever to hold this position. His published work was cited by the Violence Policy Center in their amicus curiae brief filed with the U.S. Supreme Court in the District of Columbia v. Heller case, and he himself filed a declaration in another amicus brief in this case. His course for attorneys, titled "The Management of the Lethal Force/Deadly Weapons Case", was, according to Jeffrey Weiner (former president of NACDL), "the best course for everything you need to know but are never taught in law school."

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K.





Yep, he is.

He's also trained law enforcement, and taught fire arm safety and self defense, both from a practical and legal standpoint, for a very long time, and to suggest he isn't an expert on the legal side of the field is just silly.

Before O'Mara had taken the case, Uhrig and Sonner had asked Ayoob if he would testify on Zimmerman's behalf, and Ayoob told them he would be willing to after he had seen all the evidence, because he wanted to first be sure that George was "on the side of the angels."

Ayoob wrote more recently that the State's playing games by withholding evidence made that hard to determine for a long time, but he still acted as a consultant, though he didn't end up testifying (Root contacted the defense and offered to testify, and proved to be very effective). He's written a series of articles about the case though, showing he did find George to have been "on the side of the angels."

His latest one:

"Professionals in the justice system knew that the prosecution was desperately scraping the bottom of the barrel when they tried to make it look as if George Zimmerman wasn’t justified in shooting Trayvon Martin because Martin hadn’t hurt him badly enough yet.

Anyone smart enough to pass a bar exam and research the laws of self-defense and use of force, would know that you don’t have to sustain a gunshot wound before you shoot the criminal gunman pointing his weapon at you. Similarly, you don’t have to let the guy fracture your skull or spill your brains onto the sidewalk before you are justified in stopping him with lethal force.

The whole purpose of self-defense in any form is to prevent the other man from injuring you. At the deadly force level employed in this case, the force is justified to stop the man before he inflicts a mortal or crippling injury upon you.


...

From what the evidence shows us, deadly force was indeed warranted at the time Zimmerman pulled the trigger and fired the single shot of the encounter. The lay jurors, even the one who couldn’t quite distinguish between homicide and murder when she talked about it on TV Wednesday, understood that.

The argument that Zimmerman didn’t sustain enough injury to warrant using deadly force in self-defense is simply a false argument. An argument so blatantly bogus that the knowledgeable observer can’t help but wonder what motivated the lawyers who raised it in the first place."

http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2013/07/26/zimmerman-verdict-part-8-the-quantity-of-injury-argument/

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 2:16:46 PM   
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Well, I've seen excuses, dodges, accusations and insults... but I've yet to see one person actually answer the question.

Kana has a point that enough money can trump all else but that is still not answering the question.

And it is a simple question: If you were a defendant in the American Justice System, would you rather be black or white?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 5:16:07 PM   
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that would make him an enthusiast, or an expert, not a nut.

You've never heard of "crazy cat ladies"?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 5:27:35 PM   
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If you were a defendant in the American Justice System, would you rather be black or white?

White.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 7:16:03 PM   
Kirata


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Marc2b

I've yet to see one person actually answer the question.

Ignoring reality is starting to look like your trademark.

I would rather be White
I would rather be white

K.




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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 7:36:29 PM   
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I would honestly rather be a black innocent defendant, than a white guilty one.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 7:48:46 PM   
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I know I answered it. Dunno if you included me but I kjust ain't all thaat motivated to check at the moment.

You know though, Blacks are extremely stupid when it comes to dealing with the government. That's probably why the government hires so many of them. They are easier to control, it seems because an inherent respect, awe or maybe fear of "authority" has been bred into them or something. I guess that "Roots" film wasn't all that enabling, in fact had the opposite effect it seems.

Damn shame, because I would like to be able to point to the prison population statistics and really be able to say that they need to work on themselves a bit, rather than have the possibility that they should just learn how to work that part of the system like "we" do.

I mean, I seriously am not scared of those motherfuckers. I know how to make shit a matter of public record. They cannot do a fucking thing about it. Haul me into court. Cost yourself a bunch of money for nothing, of cource I will make sure of that.

Oh, by the way, my buddy charged the other month with two felonies - fifty buck fine. He is White, but I doubt that did him much good because he looks like a biker. Pony tail and all that shit. Looks like he just fell out of a Grateful Dead concert but actually he isn't old enough for that. He really didn't do shit that warranted a felony, and it's cool that he got off with just a fine for putting a dent in a door. Circumstances came out and I'm surprised the wigger who started this shit didn't get charged because that asshole had the weapon FIRST.

But understand my point here, a Black guy would have probably taken the rap under the same circimstances. THAT IS NOT RIGHT.

A bigot believes that he is entitled or better than another because of his race, or in the case of the elite of the world, "breeding". I hold no such notions even as a proud racist. Zimmerman fucked up. He got acquitted for making a BIG mistake. But it was a mistake, and the jury ruled. So be it.

Just know this before you condemn me, I would support the exoneration of a Black Man in the same circumstances without question or reservation, provided the facts are correct of course. But they fuck themselves up, most would just take the deal, and they would be offered a deal because there would be no media involved.

The world is not fair. Now work to get that Black broad off instead of trying to crucify this Zimmerman dude. don't work to hurt Whites, work to help Blacks. I have when given the chance.

T^T

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 7:50:12 PM   
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quote:

I would honestly rather be a black innocent defendant, than a white guilty one.


That is a little bit too much masochism or something for me to embrace. Sounds like White guilt actually.

T^T

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 7:54:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I know I answered it. Dunno if you included me but I kjust ain't all thaat motivated to check at the moment.

You know though, Blacks are extremely stupid when it comes to dealing with the government. That's probably why the government hires so many of them. They are easier to control, it seems because an inherent respect, awe or maybe fear of "authority" has been bred into them or something. I guess that "Roots" film wasn't all that enabling, in fact had the opposite effect it seems.

Damn shame, because I would like to be able to point to the prison population statistics and really be able to say that they need to work on themselves a bit, rather than have the possibility that they should just learn how to work that part of the system like "we" do.

I mean, I seriously am not scared of those motherfuckers. I know how to make shit a matter of public record. They cannot do a fucking thing about it. Haul me into court. Cost yourself a bunch of money for nothing, of cource I will make sure of that.

Oh, by the way, my buddy charged the other month with two felonies - fifty buck fine. He is White, but I doubt that did him much good because he looks like a biker. Pony tail and all that shit. Looks like he just fell out of a Grateful Dead concert but actually he isn't old enough for that. He really didn't do shit that warranted a felony, and it's cool that he got off with just a fine for putting a dent in a door. Circumstances came out and I'm surprised the wigger who started this shit didn't get charged because that asshole had the weapon FIRST.

But understand my point here, a Black guy would have probably taken the rap under the same circimstances. THAT IS NOT RIGHT.

A bigot believes that he is entitled or better than another because of his race, or in the case of the elite of the world, "breeding". I hold no such notions even as a proud racist. Zimmerman fucked up. He got acquitted for making a BIG mistake. But it was a mistake, and the jury ruled. So be it.

Just know this before you condemn me, I would support the exoneration of a Black Man in the same circumstances without question or reservation, provided the facts are correct of course. But they fuck themselves up, most would just take the deal, and they would be offered a deal because there would be no media involved.

The world is not fair. Now work to get that Black broad off instead of trying to crucify this Zimmerman dude. don't work to hurt Whites, work to help Blacks. I have when given the chance.

T^T

Are you familiar with the Scott case.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 8:13:31 PM   
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Refresh me. It's not the one in Florida with the warning shot and the abusive ex right ? If so, that was the one I meant. If there is another refresh me.

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Edited because I can't type or see.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 8:20:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Refresh me. It's not the one in Florida with the warning shot and the abusive ex right ? If so, that was the one I meant. If there is another refresh me.

T^T

Edited because I can't type or see.

No a black man who shot a 17 year old white person this past April.
There were 3 thugs Scott tried to scare them off by displaying a firearm.
One of the kids charged him.
Since he was 17 and unarmed the state charged Scott with 2nd degree murder.
His trial ended a week after Zimmerman's and he too was acquitted.

As for editing I have the same problem.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 8:31:20 PM   
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I think O'Mara was right on the nose, that if George Zimmerman had been black, he never would have been charged. I can't see how anyone who paid attention to the case could disagree. They didn't just brush the shooting off when the Sanford Police was investigating, they were actually being very thorough, and just didn't have a reason to charge him.

The reason he ended up getting charged, was due to a false narrative put together by Ben Crump, Ryan Julison, etc, that ended up bringing a lot of political pressure...a false narrative that many still believe even after the trial soundly proved it wrong.

If George were black, Crump likely would never have gotten involved, and the case would have stopped at the SPD.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/27/2013 8:35:02 PM   
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His trial ended a week after Zimmerman's and he too was acquitted.


Well maybe we should have a riot. Where is 3,000 miles away from there ? And let's have it on the way to a hspital so we can stop peoplle from taking their kid to emergency.......

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