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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian

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ORIGINAL: SerWhiteTiger
Of course, that comment you quoted was in response to someone else's post, not yours, so I have no idea why you feel the need to say you didn't imply that.

It seems par for the course with this thread. All sorts of stuff that was never said or implied is being found in between the lines, nonetheless. Enjoy.

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ORIGINAL: SerWhiteTiger
Yes, it is. Is that standard for D/s discussions here?

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ORIGINAL: SerWhiteTiger

Okay, I think I may see the problem here.

ChatteParfaitt, do you realize that some people actually want to be slaves, crave to be slaves, and that it's not simply a step "above" submissive or some progression from submissive but something else entirely? This isn't some way of comparing relationships and saying, "ours is Master/slave and yours isn't, hahaha, we're better than you," but that's how you seem to be taking it.

Have you ever read any Gor books? I'm not entirely on board with the whole Gor thing, but they do display the BDSM slave mentality.

Long ago, before I was a Dominant, and merely a top with only limited experience, a girl I was in a relationship with introduced me to the Gor books. This girl was begging me, through this act and many others, for me to make her my slave. This is not expression. This is not roleplaying. This is not some way of claiming to have a superior relationship. This girl had fantasized about this all her life and truly wanted to be my slave, just like in the Gor books. If you have not read any, you might want to do so. It could be very educational.

I wish that I had been able to realize at the time that she wanted me to enslave her. It would have saved us both a lot of misery. I kept trying to treat someone who wanted to be my slave as if she were my equal in a relationship, and it drove her absolutely nuts and trainwrecked our relationship. Do you hear what I'm saying? Me not making a girl my slave trainwrecked our relationship. Can you even understand that? You said that all the doms in this thread don't understand what it's like to be a female submissive, and that's true. But I very much doubt that you understand what it's like to crave to be a slave. You probably don't even believe that people actually want it. I had a very hard time realizing it myself. That girl certainly was completely and totally incapable of actually telling me flat out that she wanted to be a slave. After all, what if I had looked at her in horror and disgust when I realized she was serious? Can you understand this girl?

Or maybe you understand it exactly and are raging at all of us because your own Dom hasn't realized that that's what you want and taken you? Is Marc correct in his assertion that you're just jealous?

Or maybe you're just trolling?

I dunno. There's a huge disconnect between how you're responding to people in this thread and what they're actually saying. You came into this thread and have done nothing but insult and attack people while claiming that you want to help. And yet you feel attacked by me when I'm doing nothing but trying to help you. To be fair, Marc isn't trying to help you. He doesn't think it's worth the effort.

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ORIGINAL: njlauren
Both you and the other guy were saying the M has the right to do anything they wish, and that could easily include doing what I just said, and it goes on in some quarters. Emotional damage may not be as horrible as physical damage, but it is damage nonetheless. An M who has a sub who is claustrophobic and decides to lock them in a box could end up driving them into a psychotic state or into a catatonic one, when you take on the M role with the idea you can do anything, you literally are taking on the power to screw someone up, hurt them, and that is my point, that claiming 'absolute power' to do what they wish, because that is what an M is, has potential issues with it.

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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian

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ORIGINAL: SerWhiteTiger
Of course, that comment you quoted was in response to someone else's post, not yours, so I have no idea why you feel the need to say you didn't imply that.

It seems par for the course with this thread. All sorts of stuff that was never said or implied is being found in between the lines, nonetheless. Enjoy.

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
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I'll have to decline a reading of the Gor books, sci fi fantasy makes for poor relationship philosophy.

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
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I do love her outfits though.

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

My dishonest method of discussion, how droll !

I have more than once pointed out that some of the responders on this thread replied the way they did b/c there are so many (mostly online) persons who style themselves as a master and are anything but.

But you know, if the shoe fits, by all means lace that puppy up and wear it.

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

I loved that show, I always wanted to be Jeanie and say 'master' all mushy and google-eyed. Then I grew up.

I do love her outfits though.

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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ORIGINAL: SerWhiteTiger

Okay, I think I may see the problem here.

ChatteParfaitt, do you realize that some people actually want to be slaves, crave to be slaves, and that it's not simply a step "above" submissive or some progression from submissive but something else entirely? This isn't some way of comparing relationships and saying, "ours is Master/slave and yours isn't, hahaha, we're better than you," but that's how you seem to be taking it.

Have you ever read any Gor books? I'm not entirely on board with the whole Gor thing, but they do display the BDSM slave mentality.

Long ago, before I was a Dominant, and merely a top with only limited experience, a girl I was in a relationship with introduced me to the Gor books. This girl was begging me, through this act and many others, for me to make her my slave. This is not expression. This is not roleplaying. This is not some way of claiming to have a superior relationship. This girl had fantasized about this all her life and truly wanted to be my slave, just like in the Gor books. If you have not read any, you might want to do so. It could be very educational.

I wish that I had been able to realize at the time that she wanted me to enslave her. It would have saved us both a lot of misery. I kept trying to treat someone who wanted to be my slave as if she were my equal in a relationship, and it drove her absolutely nuts and trainwrecked our relationship. Do you hear what I'm saying? Me not making a girl my slave trainwrecked our relationship. Can you even understand that? You said that all the doms in this thread don't understand what it's like to be a female submissive, and that's true. But I very much doubt that you understand what it's like to crave to be a slave. You probably don't even believe that people actually want it. I had a very hard time realizing it myself. That girl certainly was completely and totally incapable of actually telling me flat out that she wanted to be a slave. After all, what if I had looked at her in horror and disgust when I realized she was serious? Can you understand this girl?

Or maybe you understand it exactly and are raging at all of us because your own Dom hasn't realized that that's what you want and taken you? Is Marc correct in his assertion that you're just jealous?

Or maybe you're just trolling?

I dunno. There's a huge disconnect between how you're responding to people in this thread and what they're actually saying. You came into this thread and have done nothing but insult and attack people while claiming that you want to help. And yet you feel attacked by me when I'm doing nothing but trying to help you. To be fair, Marc isn't trying to help you. He doesn't think it's worth the effort.

Sounds to me like she needed psychological therapy if she was taking poorly written fiction and wanting to making it real for her.

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

I have insulted or attacked no one. That was debating and stating my opinion in a highly assertive manner. If you can't handle that, please feel free to put me on ignore.

I'll have to decline a reading of the Gor books, sci fi fantasy makes for poor relationship philosophy.