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littlewonder -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/25/2013 5:55:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Itsthetruth

My Mistress want's to try doing "forced intoxication" with me. I am a recovering alcoholic and I have not had a drink in over a year. She know's this. I never mentioned this as a hard limit at first because the issue never came up. What should I do? I don't want to relapse and risk going back to my old way's of drinking. I also don't want to disobey my Mistress. I should have brought this issue up when I was first owned but that was my mistake. I don't know what to do.



eeerrr...you tell her no. She knows about your recovery correct? If so then she's a sucky Domme and personally I'd move on. She obviously does not respect you or your health and wellbeing.



littlewonder -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/25/2013 5:59:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Itsthetruth

I do wish some meeting's would be more understanding of kink but I don't feel comfortable about mentioning this part of me. I have found being a slave in recovery can be difficult at time's. I know I can't return to the way I use to drink. It's almost keeping too many secrets. I can't talking about my kink around people in meeting's unless I know they don't care. I can't really talk about my alcoholism around too many people as most could care less to hear it. That's why I finally came on here. What is a recovering alcoholic in kink suppose to do? I have heard of recovery meeting's for those in fetish in particular but those meeting's are still new and far apart.



Why is it so hard for you? Why does everyone have to know about your kink? I'm submissive but yet I don't seem to have any problems in my life because of it. I don't need to tell anyone about it. I just am that way. What do you do? Continue going to your meetings and recovering just like everyone else is doing there.



SweetAnise -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/25/2013 6:57:18 PM)

WTH recovery is far more important than anything else. Your Mistress not only doesn't respect you...she has no boundaries for herself. I know easier said than done but I would get out of this relationship. Very toxic and unhealthy.



SeekingTrinity -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/25/2013 9:04:01 PM)

~FRing it~

I'll be honest...haven't read the entire thread. If I repeat what someone said previously, I apologize.

OP, all Im going is this...

A good dominant sets you up to succeed. They DO NOT set you up to fail by fucking around with your recovery. That is the sign of someone who does not respect your health or well-being. And you are concerned with not disappointing her?!?!

Going through with this is like playing chicken with a freight train while being stuck in cement on the track. You know this isn't a good idea.



jola37 -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/26/2013 12:09:03 PM)

It might also be that she's jealous of your sucess in being drink free for a year and wants to somehow spoil it. Jealousy can make people do horrible things. If she's actually serious about this, please get out of there as quickly as damn possible. This is one of the saddest things I've read here so far.



Gauge -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/26/2013 5:16:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jola37

It might also be that she's jealous of your sucess in being drink free for a year and wants to somehow spoil it. Jealousy can make people do horrible things. If she's actually serious about this, please get out of there as quickly as damn possible. This is one of the saddest things I've read here so far.


It's only sad if the poor guy actually does it because he thinks it is the right thing to do because he is a slave.



littlewonder -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/26/2013 6:24:10 PM)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this "Domme" is an alcoholic herself and she wants someone else to drink with. If he doesn't drink she no longer has a drinking buddy. He'll get all "boring" and such to her and she won't have any fun anymore with someone who is sober.

Like said before, lose her or ask her to go to a meeting with her if she truly loves you. If she won't then you have your answer, don't you?



Itsthetruth -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/27/2013 6:32:33 PM)

Thank You so much to everyone for their warm response's. I honestly didn't know if anyone would understand. I have been reading what everyone has been saying. I have decided that I will not go through with this, even if it cost's me my mistress. If I do start drinking again, it really won't matter anyway's. I do hope this thread bring's awareness to it. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has experienced this problem. I went through too much to finally quit drinking. I can't afford to put myself through that misery again.



Gauge -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/27/2013 6:39:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Itsthetruth

Thank You so much to everyone for their warm response's. I honestly didn't know if anyone would understand. I have been reading what everyone has been saying. I have decided that I will not go through with this, even if it cost's me my mistress. If I do start drinking again, it really won't matter anyway's. I do hope this thread bring's awareness to it. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has experienced this problem. I went through too much to finally quit drinking. I can't afford to put myself through that misery again.


Damn proud of you man. Damn proud. Now, hold your head up high and revel in the fact that you have stood up for your recovery.

Like I offered before, if you want to talk, just PM me on the other side, I am always willing to help someone in recovery. Always.




DrkJourney -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/27/2013 6:48:44 PM)

Haven't read all of the comments, so forgive me if I'm repeating. I have never told anyone outright to leave someone, but you really need to leave. Like everyone has said, she does not have your well being in mind.

Also, as many years as I've done this I have always felt it dangerous to bring alcohol and drugs into this, whether someone is dependent on them or not..it's just really dangerous.

Don't just stay because you think you can't find anyone else. You get to know the people on the boards, they are good people, I'm sure you will find someone else before you know it



Lucylastic -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/27/2013 7:20:38 PM)

IM so glad you came back to us Itsthetruth, there are some great people here with some great advice. Welcome to the boards and Im offering an ear too if youever need it, here or on fet( I have the same name over there.
Good luck in sobriety, and I hope you find what you are looking for.



Toysinbabeland -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/27/2013 7:23:26 PM)

Imho:
Some things should always be off limits. This is one of them.




tommonymous -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/27/2013 8:14:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Itsthetruth

I have decided that I will not go through with this, even if it cost's me my mistress.


By the sound of things, if not going through with her plan costs you your mistress you're really not out much, are you?

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ORIGINAL: Itsthetruth

If I do start drinking again, it really won't matter anyway's.


That's not an "if" to even consider. You're not going to start drinking, because you don't drink. End of conversation. There's no "if" there to consider. Mindset is a very powerful thing.

EDIT: additional thought, and phrasing change



Toysinbabeland -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (8/27/2013 8:17:28 PM)

Find yourself a Mistress who protects your interests.



jola37 -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (9/1/2013 2:47:36 AM)

Hi Isthetruth. Can you give a small update please?



Itsthetruth -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (9/1/2013 7:24:53 PM)

I do realize the 12 step's are not for everyone. What I like about 12 step meeting's is the fellowship aspect to it. To be able to relate with people who understand. That's what I get from 12 step's. I didn't stay away from alcohol the first time I tried to stop. I even did rehab and outpatient care. I will say it is hard enough to stay away from booze at a younger age. I use to even drink going to kink event's and that was a waste. No Mistress want's to play with someone who's drunk. So, alcohol has really effected a lot all aspect's of my life. Which is why I quit and I know I can't return to drinking. Some people can drink 1 or 2 drink's and that's it. That's not my case at all. If I start again, I have no idea if I can quit again without going through pure hell.  I will have "forced intoxication" on my off "limits" list from now on.



angelikaJ -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (9/1/2013 7:46:02 PM)

It doesn't matter if the 12 steps "are not for everyone".

What matters is they work for you.

You don't need a reason beyond that.
You don't need to justify it.

And you should never feel the need to apologise for it.

It works for you and that's all that matters.

Last year a friend who I had known for over 30 yrs died from alcoholism-related illness.

It affected his whole body: he had chronic pancreatitis.
His leg muscles wasted away from poor nutrition.

He had liver damage which resulted in esophageal varices.
It caused him to have blood vessels rupture in his esophagus and the loss in blood volume caused him to have a heart attack, and then another.

He had brain death and his family had to choose to disconnect him from life support.



dragonbutter -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (9/1/2013 9:20:36 PM)

I know that one of the the BDSM clubs here used to have kink-friendly AA meetings. You may want to look into that in Florida. I would think that in one or more of the larger cities there might be something similar. If you find one, and it's not close to you, maybe you could travel to it occasionally so you could have that outlet sometimes.



jola37 -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (9/3/2013 10:13:03 AM)

Hi Isthetruth, thanks for keeping with your thread. A few things strike me now about this.

Firstly, I think you were looking for confirmation of your fears with what your Domme was asking you to do. It was the correct thing to do and exactly the right place to do it.

Secondly, I think you are just starting to realise you will be drink free because if you don't want to drink, then you don't. Like you have just done this last year. You didn't want to drink, so you didn't. This moment I believe you are in is precious as it is now fully you who is dictating the future again. And the future you're Domme suggested sucks so much, that you even had to share it here ;-)

Lastly I'd like to say that there will come a time when you're not afraid you'll drink again and the thought of drink will actually bore you. As soon as the mind gets bored, it shifts it's attention elsewhere naturally :) This is the moment where one lets go of the addiction, let the fucker go ! It might mean you'll never have another drink again, but it's no different to a drug addict not being able to have the thing they were hooked on again, or a gambling addict etc. The good bit is, you wont even be thinking about it as the addiction will have been starved to death.

I hope all this isn't too presumptuous, you're obviously quite a way down the road to recovery already.




metamorfosis -> RE: Forced intoxication fetish while in recovery (9/3/2013 8:56:06 PM)

I don't see any other option but to get out.



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