Milesnmiles
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ORIGINAL: vincentML Firstly, I am not blaming god if he does not exist. If he does exist he is either a mean bastard or indifferent to the sufferings of his creations, and the passage is a lie that tells us 'god so loved man that he gave his only begotten son, yatta, yatta.' Mean or indifferent or non-existent?? Your choice. As to where we live, mankind has inhabited every niche and cranny on this tiny planet. There is hardly a place of safety from god's disasters. If there is we would not all fit there, so your suggestion that we are to blame for living in dangerous places is hilariously absurd. For the most part humans lack property and live in crowded areas already, many not far from the place of their birth. And here you come along and suggest that choice of living accommodations is a SIN! Ludicrous in the extreme. Is it your religion who teaches you to blame the victims. And germs: pathogens, like all predators evolve to adapt to the defenses of their prey. Does god encourage their adaptations or does he not simply care? Or maybe he isn't there. The question is as old as Job. Why does a benevolent god permit suffering of the innocent? The answers seem unsatisfying to me other than there is no god and thus religion and all the quotes from your ancient books are nonsense that keep mankind in ignorance. I have to decide if it is worthwhile to discuss this with you. This is not the first time I've had this discussion, not my first rodeo. It seems this subject upsets you and you maybe even have a "dog in this fight". I do not, I just enjoy discussing it and have no vested interest in the subject and could argue either side but usually defend God and the Bible because there always seems to be more on the other side. Most of what you say is new to you but it is "old stuff" to me. So if you feel willing to stretch the discussion and not just keep repeating the same things over and over again without thinking about and addressing the points I've given, lets go for it but if not then I give up, you win, I've never read such insightful arguments in my life. ;-)
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