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what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 4:41:36 AM   
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hiya :)

curious newby here. I was wondering; are there specific things (like behaviours, personality traits, etc.) that most dominants find unattractive or irritating about submissives?

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 4:50:15 AM   
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Welcome to the forum. Your question is a good one. I think one thing that has always bothered me are submissives who believe that they are not suppose to be protective of themselves when it comes to choosing a partner. That they cannot think on their own. That for some reason choices go out the door. So they jump in head first into any so called dominant relationship and end up hurt and damaged. Instead of realizing that a D/s relationship is very similar to a normal vanilla relationship and that they should have expectations, desires, and dealbreakers when it comes to choosing their partner(s).

My other concern are submissives who use the lifestyle to deal with their emotional and mental health issues including traumas. Not realizing that therapy is probably they best plan of action.

Be well and great question.

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 5:03:45 AM   
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For me it's the subs who think this lifestyle is all about them. What I will do to them; how they will spend hours worshipping my pussy; kinky sex, etc.

The problem is they've come to these conclusions from watching BDSM porn. They think we all wear leather spike-heeled boots; dress in skimpy fetish wear; and are essentially a fetish delivery system for them.

These people don't realize that the lifestyle is not about sex at all for some of us; that play is only a small part of the D/s relationship.

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 5:08:36 AM   
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First thing that comes to mind: Not telling me something, out of fear I will love them less or they will lose me. Or because they 'don't want to change me'.

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 5:08:52 AM   
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Well, there's a general "thing" that irks me.

There are a ton of submissives that I've known that use submission as a crutch to shirk personal responsibility.

I think it relates to what the person above me said where a lady will allow others to run rough-shod over them and then, "explain" it away with: "I can't say anything to them. I'm a submissive".

I can deal with that and some people are just naturally spineless and need to "blame" it on something else. Where I can't abide it is when it comes to raising children.

I have seen far too many ladies (I don't have intimate relationships with men so this is not to be gender accusatory) who do not parent their children and then de-cry that they're submissive and they can do no better. That's crap.





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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 5:20:01 AM   
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Those who have a tendencies to act like there is some kind of hive mind, and all subs are of one nature. Or to call all other subs sissy, or bro, like they're automatically one family, and 2 other subs want that level of familiarity by way of being a sub.

Assumptions that as a sub all subs must be........And have/ do........ simply by virtue of being a sub.

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 5:23:23 AM   
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I didn't realize that was an issue... but yeah, bad parenting is just bad parenting. Any excuse for why you're not good to your kids is always crap.

@SweetAnise: That was something that always creeped me out a little about a lot of bdsm stories out there, the way the sub goes all 50 shades of complacent domestic abuse victim...

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 5:23:26 AM   
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For me it's the subs who think this lifestyle is all about them. What I will do to them; how they will spend hours worshipping my pussy; kinky sex, etc.

The problem is they've come to these conclusions from watching BDSM porn. They think we all wear leather spike-heeled boots; dress in skimpy fetish wear; and are essentially a fetish delivery system for them.

These people don't realize that the lifestyle is not about sex at all for some of us; that play is only a small part of the D/s relationship.

These are (primarily) newbies who call themselves submissives or who arbitrarily assign themselves the label of slave without having any real clue what they're talking about; presuming that being fetish-obsessed or having kinky desires makes them submissive-minded when all they really want is to be Topped, usually by a female of the Bitchy variety. They wouldn't know a *real* Domme if one came up and whacked them in the posterior (they wish)--er, I meant upside the head.

Very nicely put:
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ORIGINAL: SweetAnise

I think one thing that has always bothered me are submissives who believe that they are not suppose to be protective of themselves when it comes to choosing a partner. That they cannot think on their own. That for some reason choices go out the door. So they jump in head first into any so called dominant relationship and end up hurt and damaged. Instead of realizing that a D/s relationship is very similar to a normal vanilla relationship and that they should have expectations, desires, and dealbreakers when it comes to choosing their partner(s).

My other concern are submissives who use the lifestyle to deal with their emotional and mental health issues including traumas. Not realizing that therapy is probably they best plan of action.


... and also what DaddySatyr mentioned about female submissives who shirk their maternal responsibilities.

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 5:28:06 AM   
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Where as I find that some questioning and mentioning by a slave/sub, of decisions/mistakes that are made, is necessary. Such as Master, my hand is getting numb is that what you had in mind? or Master, will I have to do that again any time soon?

Personally, I find a slave/sub that is constantly looking for ways to challenge her Master's authority, such as; Why would a MASTER want to take me to a place like this?, gets annoying pretty fast.






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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 5:37:43 AM   
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I've always assumed that a submissive being totally submissive, all the time, to everyone who claims a dominant title, without any good reason, would be irritating to dominants...

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 6:40:07 AM   
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That'd be more akin to door Matt ism than healthy submission .
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ORIGINAL: thisisacutename

I've always assumed that a submissive being totally submissive, all the time, to everyone who claims a dominant title, without any good reason, would be irritating to dominants...



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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 6:41:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thisisacutename

I've always assumed that a submissive being totally submissive, all the time, to everyone who claims a dominant title, without any good reason, would be irritating to dominants...
It can be, to me it is hard to consider someone as "your" submissive if she acts the same way toward everyone as she does to you. That is unless you instructed her that is the way she is to act.

I always instruct my subs to show deference to all but to submit only to me.

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 6:53:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles


quote:

ORIGINAL: thisisacutename

I've always assumed that a submissive being totally submissive, all the time, to everyone who claims a dominant title, without any good reason, would be irritating to dominants...
It can be, to me it is hard to consider someone as "your" submissive if she acts the same way toward everyone as she does to you. That is unless you instructed her that is the way she is to act.

I always instruct my subs to show deference to all but to submit only to me.


Exactly.

As a Dom, I'm responsible to my sub. I once was talking with a woman who was ready to relocate from Colorado Springs and become mine. On the basis of twenty minutes of online chat. I don't even want to THINK what it would be like keeping her safe and healthy.

So my undesirable traits in a submissive are:

1. Stupidity/lack of personal responsibility. See above.
2. Trying to manipulate me.
3. Doing things for me that she knows I'll like, when I don't like them.
4. Assuming that the way to get a spanking out of me is to act like a brat and expect me to give them a fun playful spanking.


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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 9:24:12 AM   
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I think the thing that annoys me the most is the submissive that is so obsessively focused on their kinks and fetishes that they cannot see the bigger picture beyond. It's a partnership...a collaboration...with a dominant. I have yet to see a "do-me" sub be able to contribute meaningfully to the collaboration.

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 9:38:55 AM   
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Wonderful question TICN and may I welcome you to the discussion side of CM. It seems we are practically neighbors.

This:

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ORIGINAL: SweetAnise

I think one thing that has always bothered me are submissives who believe that they are not suppose to be protective of themselves when it comes to choosing a partner. That they cannot think on their own. That for some reason choices go out the door. So they jump in head first into any so called dominant relationship and end up hurt and damaged. Instead of realizing that a D/s relationship is very similar to a normal vanilla relationship and that they should have expectations, desires, and dealbreakers when it comes to choosing their partner(s).

My other concern are submissives who use the lifestyle to deal with their emotional and mental health issues including traumas. Not realizing that therapy is probably they best plan of action.





This:

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ORIGINAL: MsLadySue

For me it's the subs who think this lifestyle is all about them. What I will do to them; how they will spend hours worshipping my pussy; kinky sex, etc.

The problem is they've come to these conclusions from watching BDSM porn. They think we all wear leather spike-heeled boots; dress in skimpy fetish wear; and are essentially a fetish delivery system for them.

These people don't realize that the lifestyle is not about sex at all for some of us; that play is only a small part of the D/s relationship.



This:

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


There are a ton of submissives that I've known that use submission as a crutch to shirk personal responsibility.

I think it relates to what the person above me said where a lady will allow others to run rough-shod over them and then, "explain" it away with: "I can't say anything to them. I'm a submissive".

I can deal with that and some people are just naturally spineless and need to "blame" it on something else. Where I can't abide it is when it comes to raising children.

I have seen far too many ladies (I don't have intimate relationships with men so this is not to be gender accusatory) who do not parent their children and then de-cry that they're submissive and they can do no better. That's crap.



And this:

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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

Those who have a tendencies to act like there is some kind of hive mind, and all subs are of one nature. Or to call all other subs sissy, or bro, like they're automatically one family, and 2 other subs want that level of familiarity by way of being a sub.

Assumptions that as a sub all subs must be........And have/ do........ simply by virtue of being a sub.



Far too many use relationships in place of therapy, or are so caught up in their own fantasies they can't relate to others as human beings. On another group I'm in I said something along the lines of 'you don't *really* need a dom' -- and had someone come back with: 'but what if you do *need* one?'

Seriously, you won't die if your sexual needs are not immediately met, and if you feel you *have* to have someone in your life or you'll die, you need a therapist, not a dom. Someone who can't stand up on their own two feet and be all right on their own I don't need.


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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 9:54:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
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Seriously, you won't die if your sexual needs are not immediately met, and if you feel you *have* to have someone in your life or you'll die, you need a therapist, not a dom.
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Nice turn of phrase. ;-)

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 12:49:08 PM   
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@ChatteParfaitt: Hiya :) It's nice to see someone else from this strange little state on here as well haha.

I think most of you guys are right... Just because someone feels submissive, it doesn't excuse us from the responsibility of accountability for our own actions.

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 12:57:22 PM   
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I find it annoying when subs speak of their submission as a gift, if they act like they never dated before, if they believe we are special snowflakes by virtue of being submissive, if they view all subs as sisters, if they are competitive about how "subblier" they are, and if they ask questions of Masters and get pissed that subs reply.


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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/25/2014 2:55:40 PM   
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This may be more confusing than annoying, but: the way some subs seem unable to gauge their development by any other standard than self-hatred. I want to ask them - "does you like ANY part of yourself? Are you capable of viewing intimacy like a web or is it all just a narrow, linear, downward path where your 'limits' are continually pushed? Can you be turned on without your face in a used toilet and a fist up your ass? Can you still get off when called by your real name or do you need to always be called piggy, faggot, loser, etc..."

Honestly, to me, that stuff seems weird. But to each their own. What I find annoying and confusing, though, is when that's ALL a sub can seem to be into. Frankly, I think it points more towards addiction than submission.

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RE: what traits do you think are annoying in submissives? - 1/26/2014 6:44:07 AM   
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Ooooh! I have one (maybe):

It may be a gender thing but, why is it that a good portion of the ladies I know can't answer the question I asked?

Me: Did you get the car to the shop?

Her: I went to the supermarket and saw that they had ________ on sale so I wanted to get it and bring it home and ...

Me (three minutes later): Okay but the I asked about the car. Can we talk about that, first?

I have a theory on why this happens but, it's probably facocta.





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