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dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/21/2014 4:59:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RochesterDomme To all who are wondering about medicaid. Here is a link to the New York Medicaid manual. In New York there are several networks a person can choose from. Although each plan offers the same benefits. https://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/managed_care/docs/medicaid_managed_model_member_handbook.pdf Here is a quick list of additional services available just by calling member services. Besides the regular check ups and the shots you and your family need, here are some other ways to keep you in good health: • Classes for you and your family • Stop-smoking classes • Pre-natal care and nutrition • Grief / Loss support • Breast feeding and baby care • Stress management • Weight control • Cholesterol control • Diabetes counseling and self-management training • Asthma counseling and self-management training I have fidelis and they don't cover a RD unless you're diabetic...I know someone else who has been told the same exact thing for her eating disorder.

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/21/2014 5:08:52 PM)
As you can see here...it says "health and wellness education- not covered" http://www.fideliscare.org/Portals/0/DocumentLibrary/Products/Medicaid%20Advantage%20Plus/2014%20Documents/MAPSummaryOfBenefits2014.pdf

angelikaJ -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/21/2014 5:14:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: RochesterDomme To all who are wondering about medicaid. Here is a link to the New York Medicaid manual. In New York there are several networks a person can choose from. Although each plan offers the same benefits. https://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/managed_care/docs/medicaid_managed_model_member_handbook.pdf Here is a quick list of additional services available just by calling member services. Besides the regular check ups and the shots you and your family need, here are some other ways to keep you in good health: • Classes for you and your family • Stop-smoking classes • Pre-natal care and nutrition • Grief / Loss support • Breast feeding and baby care • Stress management • Weight control • Cholesterol control • Diabetes counseling and self-management training • Asthma counseling and self-management training I have fidelis and they don't cover a RD unless you're diabetic...I know someone else who has been told the same exact thing for her eating disorder. Why are you on a plan that has substandard coverage? Maybe it is time to reconsider Medicare? Also: Mental Health Parity is now the law of the land. Among other things, you could argue that they are denying adequate treatment for your diagnosed mental illness.

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/21/2014 5:31:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: RochesterDomme To all who are wondering about medicaid. Here is a link to the New York Medicaid manual. In New York there are several networks a person can choose from. Although each plan offers the same benefits. https://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/managed_care/docs/medicaid_managed_model_member_handbook.pdf Here is a quick list of additional services available just by calling member services. Besides the regular check ups and the shots you and your family need, here are some other ways to keep you in good health: • Classes for you and your family • Stop-smoking classes • Pre-natal care and nutrition • Grief / Loss support • Breast feeding and baby care • Stress management • Weight control • Cholesterol control • Diabetes counseling and self-management training • Asthma counseling and self-management training I have fidelis and they don't cover a RD unless you're diabetic...I know someone else who has been told the same exact thing for her eating disorder. Why are you on a plan that has substandard coverage? Maybe it is time to reconsider Medicare? Also: Mental Health Parity is now the law of the land. Among other things, you could argue that they are denying adequate treatment for your diagnosed mental illness. I had to choose a managed care plan and this one is the best option given my meds. I'm gonna make some calls on Monday.

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/21/2014 5:32:50 PM)
I just got stuck in a bent over position. >.< hurts so bad...in tears...idk what to do. FML. :((

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/21/2014 5:35:57 PM)
Should I go to the ER? Fuck it hurts!

angelikaJ -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/21/2014 5:42:00 PM)
Ummmm, yeah, if you can't move go to the ER.

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/21/2014 5:43:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ Ummmm, yeah, if you can't move go to the ER. I managed to get to an up position but now I can't bend. >.<

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/21/2014 7:04:08 PM)
Heating pad+breathing exercises have got me through the past hour or so...feeling a lot better than it was but it still hurts quite a bit. No idea what I did. Kinda afraid to go to bed tonight as I'm not sure I'll be able to get out of bed in the morning. O.O but thankfully tomorrow morning our new bed arrives and I will no longer be sleeping on a mattress on the floor. That should help my back quite a bit. It's been hell trying to get up off that mattress LOL

ElectraGlide -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/21/2014 7:15:11 PM)
Dollparts its great to hear the good news. Keep us posted.

LafayetteLady -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/22/2014 12:32:13 AM)
Often with medicaid, and even "managed care," pre-authorization is needed for things like nutritionists. The doctors need to do the legwork on that, not the patients. Regardless, the OP wants attention not help. First she has a fractured vertabra and can't do anything, but now its ok to walk. She bends over and is in so much pain, she's in tears, but is still able to get on this site to ask if she should go to the ER. If someone can't make that kind of decision on their own, they aren't competent enough to be on an adult web site. She knows more than the doctors, more than the dietician, has an excuse for why she can't follow any suggestions here. She lies (even if only by omission) to her medical doctors, therapist and on these boards. First she left out patient for eating disorder because it wasn't helping,, now its because insurance won't pay. She won't eat because she will gain even more wieght, but doesn't exercise and thinks that isn't the reason she gains weight. NO ONE and I mean no one is going to consume less than 300 calories a day and gain weight regardless of metabolic rate.. metabolism increases with movement and the right foods. Its one excuse after another. Nothing is going to help someone who doesn't really want help. She wants attention and people to feel sorry for her, and that is exactly what some here are doing, and it is a waste of time.

IvoryPearls -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/22/2014 4:01:29 AM)
I'd just like to concur that I don't think you're a good candidate for gastric bypass surgery (I'm not a doctor, but I had RNY gastric bypass surgery in 2004) The immediate and long-term success rate of GBS is greatly dependent on the compliance of the patient. In your current situation, it doesn't appear that you would (could?) be compliant with the food /nutrition component of the process. I wish you luck. (also - not all fat people have edema - I never had it) IP~

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/22/2014 6:11:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady Often with medicaid, and even "managed care," pre-authorization is needed for things like nutritionists. The doctors need to do the legwork on that, not the patients. Regardless, the OP wants attention not help. First she has a fractured vertabra and can't do anything, but now its ok to walk. She bends over and is in so much pain, she's in tears, but is still able to get on this site to ask if she should go to the ER. If someone can't make that kind of decision on their own, they aren't competent enough to be on an adult web site. She knows more than the doctors, more than the dietician, has an excuse for why she can't follow any suggestions here. She lies (even if only by omission) to her medical doctors, therapist and on these boards. First she left out patient for eating disorder because it wasn't helping,, now its because insurance won't pay. She won't eat because she will gain even more wieght, but doesn't exercise and thinks that isn't the reason she gains weight. NO ONE and I mean no one is going to consume less than 300 calories a day and gain weight regardless of metabolic rate.. metabolism increases with movement and the right foods. Its one excuse after another. Nothing is going to help someone who doesn't really want help. She wants attention and people to feel sorry for her, and that is exactly what some here are doing, and it is a waste of time. You need to stop making things up. I never said I gain weight on 300 calories a day. I said I maintain on 300. I tried to walk but only got to the end of my building. Had to sit down twice...once after going down the stairs and then once before going back up the stairs. I'm doing everything I can to try and lose weight. I sat down in my comfy chair in front of the computer after I hurt my back last night and made a post. I hate going to the ER...ended up not going but I don't know...I might go today...pain is still really bad this morning. Was really hard to get out of bed. I think something is like out of place or something. I don't know. Just ate a yogurt and took some hydrocodone. Hoping it helps some. Gonna sit with the heating pad for a while. I think you need to stop making personal attacks towards me. It's against the rules.

Lynnxz -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/22/2014 6:45:14 AM)
No one maintains on 300 kCal.

windchymes -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/22/2014 7:07:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 I tried to walk but only got to the end of my building. Had to sit down twice...once after going down the stairs and then once before going back up the stairs. I'm doing everything I can to try and lose weight. Okay, so, and if it's okay with your doctor, keep doing this. Maybe skip the stairs until you build some stamina, just walk back and forth and gradually increase your speed and repetitions. You can sit in your chair and use soup cans for weights to exercise your arms, build muscle and burn calories. Work up to bigger cans. You can stand up and raise yourself up and down on tippy-toes to build your calf muscles. Hold onto something, like the back of the couch, a chair or bookshelf so you don't lose your balance and fall and further injure yourself. You can do butt-cheek squeezes while you're sitting to build the butt muscles. And that will also increase blood flow to your low back which can help relieve pain and inflammation. None of this will cost you a dime. Well, except for the price of the soup. KEEP doing it regularly, and over time, a month to six weeks, you should build up enough strength to start the stairs, or get out and walk around the block. They key is to start small and work up gradually. Don't give up because you couldn't do something, just cut back and do SOMETHING. You've done your research, google 'wheelchair exercises'. I know you're not in a wheelchair, but they do have exercise programs for those who are. Check out what they do, and you can incorporate them into your own routine. If your doctor says it's okay. Why do you need a human dietician? Once again, google it. You're smart, you've obviously researched and learned tons of advanced medical information, surely you can research and create your own eating program. If it's moral support you're seeking, there have to be sites online with forums like this one (well.....not like THIS one, lol, but you get my drift) where you can get support and advice and make some friends. Once again, won't cost you a dime. Where there's a will, there's a way. Just want to add, I didn't read the entire thread, and I missed where the doctor said no exercise for 8 weeks. Of course, do what he says first.

LafayetteLady -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/22/2014 7:13:56 AM)
I haven't made any personal attacks on you. I merely pointed out that most of the stuff you say doesn't add up and that you are seeking attention. As Lynn said, no one "maintains" on 300 calories a day. People have given you a great deal of good advice, yet everything that is suggested you have an excuse for not doing. When a normal person is hurt so bad they say they can't move and are in tears, they don't spend time on a message board asking if they should go to the ER. If they are in that much pain, you aren't sitting in front of a computer, especially when they were recently told they have a fractured vertibra. Did you consider that you could have worsened it? Did you think about the fact that your vertibra protect your spinal cord and if one is broke, something could shift and paralyze you? You said the doctor told you no exercise for 8 weeks, yet you are going for walks, which is exercise. So you either are being dishonest about what the doctor told you or you are once again ignoring doctors instructions. When you were in so much pain, why didn't you call your doctor and ask them what you should do? You are willfully damaging your health and giving every excuse not to stop purging, not to eat a healthy diet, not to exercise. That's not a personal attack, that's facts based on what you have written here.

kalikshama -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/22/2014 7:19:25 AM)
quote: (also - not all fat people have edema - I never had it) Yes, I've been morbidly obese and never had edema, probably because I was always active at any weight - walking, swimming, yoga, gardening. Exercise and Edema ...Talk to your health care provider if you have any concerns about the swelling in your legs and to see which exercises are best for you. ...Exercise and Edema - Case Studies According to a study by Drs. Jerry O. Ciocon of the Cleveland Clinic Florida, elevated leg exercise is highly effective in reducing edema, especially if you are elderly. A two-year study published in January 1995, involved 245 patients with an average age of 73, who were administered with regular exercise. The results showed a significant improvement in leg edema. If you are pregnant and have swelling in ankles or legs, performing leg exercise in water may help in reducing the edema symptoms. In the "American Family Physician" journal, Dr. Linda French mentions a study that showed a positive reduction in leg edema of otherwise healthy pregnant women after leg exercise in water. A cohort study published in American Family Physician in 2006 examined the effectiveness of immersion therapy in reducing edema in 8 outpatient pregnant women. These women participated in 45-minute immersion water exercises and their lower leg volumes were measured before and after the exercise session. The results showed that even a session of water immersion exercise was enough to provide significant reduction in pedal edema in women with uncomplicated pregnancies. Exercises for Leg Edema The Ohio State University Medical Center recommends relieving leg edema through the elevated resting technique. Lie down comfortably and use two or three pillows to elevate your feet and legs above the level of your heart for approximately 45 minutes to one hour. Do this three times a day to reduce swelling. Exercise should be combined with compression therapy to provide the best benefits. Compression stockings essentially provide passive leg exercises. They help the leg muscle generate a pump pressure which squeezes out water from the legs, constricts blood vessels and encourage the lymphatic system to draw away fluids from the limbs. However, the most common questions edema patients ask concerning exercising is how much is enough? There is no one correct answer for this question because the fitness level of each individual differs. Also, the severity of each patient’s edema will largely determine how much exercise is too much. Generally, aerobic exercises are the most useful because they task the lungs, heart and muscles. Start out with only a little exercise and for a short period of time. As long as you keep a consistent exercise schedule, you will soon be increasing the duration and amount of exercise you get. Find a partner if you can because good company increases your participation and enjoyment of the exercise. Do not invest a lot of money in home gym equipment. Keep your exercises simple and remember not to overexert yourself.

kalikshama -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/22/2014 7:24:58 AM)
quote: Just want to add, I didn't read the entire thread, and I missed where the doctor said no exercise for 8 weeks. Of course, do what he says first. He said no physical therapy for 8 weeks, not that she should be on bed rest. She's going down the stairs and walking to a vehicle to get to the doctor. I suggested she talk to the doctor to see what exactly she should and could do, and that she could add a few more steps to what she's already doing.

kalikshama -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/22/2014 7:28:59 AM)
quote: I never said I gain weight on 300 calories a day. I said I maintain on 300. quote: I'm doing everything I can to try and lose weight. While you hold these beliefs, your situation is hopeless.

windchymes -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/22/2014 7:41:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama quote: Just want to add, I didn't read the entire thread, and I missed where the doctor said no exercise for 8 weeks. Of course, do what he says first. He said no physical therapy for 8 weeks, not that she should be on bed rest. She's going down the stairs and walking to a vehicle to get to the doctor. I suggested she talk to the doctor to see what exactly she should and could do, and that she could add a few more steps to what she's already doing. Ahhhhh, okay [:)]

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