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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/5/2014 4:43:07 PM

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Since when does what people actually say not matter?

As bizarre as it is, that's the question isn't it. Around here certain posters will twist another person's words into something which is unrecognizable to them and claim THAT'S what the poster is saying no matter how much said poster disagree's. MM, Dwarf, Raiikun, how the hell do you think that's valid and are you cool with the rest of us doing the same thing to you?

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/6/2014 7:08:49 PM

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Silly child, that's not even a good try.

You're going to need reasoned arguments rather than stomping your feet and crying "Nuh-uh!"

If you don't like the content of the post, lay out the logic involved in challenging it. That's how adults do it. I welcome when people "do the same thing" to me, because then we can have a discussion.

But instead of giving your counterarguments, you decide that language doesn't mean what it says. That's simply a child's game. That you're willing to trot it out repeatedly is telling.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/7/2014 4:21:47 PM

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you decide that language doesn't mean what it says.

Nobody, anywhere, ever on this thread, has said that, MM. That straw man just refuses to come into existence, no matter how much energy you put into creating it.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/7/2014 4:26:24 PM

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The posts beg to differ. Sorry about that.

Steele's are ridiculously rife with them, even saying that only he can know what his words mean.

Then this silly shifting sentence phenomenon.

I don't need ANY energy to create it. You can pretend it's a straw man, but I'm simply naming what's already manifest.

But of course, apparently posts don't mean what they say either. [<--Now that was a straw man. See the difference?]

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/7/2014 4:47:39 PM

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I don't care and can no longer be bothered to argue the matter, MM. Consider yourself the winner, if you like.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/7/2014 5:07:05 PM

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I don't care and can no longer be bothered to argue the matter, MM. Consider yourself the winner, if you like.

that seems to be the point these days PFH.

you're a liar
where's your link?
deliberately misinterpret what you said
strawman
circular

It's a load of old shite, fair play Sir for fighting on without falling into the mire.

They said it was going to pick up, get back to how it was, it hasn't.

Meh

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/7/2014 7:22:17 PM

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I don't care and can no longer be bothered to argue the matter, MM. Consider yourself the winner, if you like.

I don't give a crap about being "the winner" either. Huff off if you like.

But bullshit is still bullshit, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/7/2014 7:44:13 PM

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The Duke Rape Case (as it is commonly called) is one of the worst failures of the American Justice System. That's what many people say, but I disagree. It may have been messy but given that the falsely accused were vindicated, and given that a corrupt prosecutor was exposed and removed from office - I say is was an example of American Justice succeeding.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/8/2014 1:42:19 PM

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I experienced this on another thread with MM about cost/benefits of US interventionism. MM read my responses a particular way and then there was no correcting him or escaping his projections. I called in my wife to see what she thought, because it made me feel somewhat insane. But, she agreed there was a weird inflexibility from him in the exchanges partly because he was not reading my posts correctly. I decided to let it drop -- b/c such back and fourths become circular and irritating to other readers.

Anyway yesterday I debunked MM's claims regarding frivolous lawsuits being related to health care costs and physicians practicing medicine. These are important facts because Tort Reform in practice has generally enriched insurance companies, maybe decreased insurance premium costs for doctors, but not lowered heath care costs for consumers while concurrently restricting citizens' rights to seek civil justice in courtrooms and before juries.

When you really investigate Tort Reform and its underlying myths -- you see all the workings of corrupt policy-making wherein public officials help narrow special interests while claiming untrue public benefits for everyone else.

He'd hear none of it; to do so would have required too much humility. I was kind of shocked. But it made me think of the arguments going on here.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/8/2014 3:56:23 PM

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MM read my responses a particular way and then there was no correcting him or escaping his projections. I called in my wife to see what she thought, because it made me feel somewhat insane. But, she agreed there was a weird inflexibility from him in the exchanges partly because he was not reading my posts correctly.

Is that 6 now, or is it 7?

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I decided to let it drop -- b/c such back and fourths become circular and irritating to other readers.

I'm kind of in your camp and kind of in DomKen's camp. I'd prefer to go around and around on this sort of problem for a goodly while if I think there's any hope of reaching a regular because otherwise we're just going to keep seeing it. But I think there also comes a point where trying to have a conversation with somebody who just will not hear you is clearly a waste and just pointlessly fucks threads up for everybody else.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/9/2014 11:34:23 AM

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I experienced this on another thread with MM about cost/benefits of US interventionism. MM read my responses a particular way and then there was no correcting him or escaping his projections. I called in my wife to see what she thought, because it made me feel somewhat insane. But, she agreed there was a weird inflexibility from him in the exchanges partly because he was not reading my posts correctly. I decided to let it drop -- b/c such back and fourths become circular and irritating to other readers.

Anyway yesterday I debunked MM's claims regarding frivolous lawsuits being related to health care costs and physicians practicing medicine. These are important facts because Tort Reform in practice has generally enriched insurance companies, maybe decreased insurance premium costs for doctors, but not lowered heath care costs for consumers while concurrently restricting citizens' rights to seek civil justice in courtrooms and before juries.

When you really investigate Tort Reform and its underlying myths -- you see all the workings of corrupt policy-making wherein public officials help narrow special interests while claiming untrue public benefits for everyone else.

He'd hear none of it; to do so would have required too much humility. I was kind of shocked. But it made me think of the arguments going on here.

Ah, no. Totally bullshit.

In both threads, you CHANGED THE SUBJECT and then pouted because I wouldn't play the game on your new -- and irrelevant -- turf.

That doctors have to pay high malpractice premiums that impacts their income sufficiently to disagree practitioners was the point.

YOU (1) decided you wanted to talk about tort reform instead and (2) pretend doctors don't have to pay this because you wanted to talk about medical errors instead.

You want to talk to me on an issue, address the issue.

Yup -- that's gonna be inflexible.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/9/2014 11:40:20 AM

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Is that 6 now, or is it 7?

Hey Sparky -- ever do the count on YOUR detractors?

Didn't think so. You might give it a go.

Something to do besides snark.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/9/2014 12:23:39 PM

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MM read my responses a particular way and then there was no correcting him or escaping his projections. I called in my wife to see what she thought, because it made me feel somewhat insane. But, she agreed there was a weird inflexibility from him in the exchanges partly because he was not reading my posts correctly.

Is that 6 now, or is it 7?

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I decided to let it drop -- b/c such back and fourths become circular and irritating to other readers.

I'm kind of in your camp and kind of in DomKen's camp. I'd prefer to go around and around on this sort of problem for a goodly while if I think there's any hope of reaching a regular because otherwise we're just going to keep seeing it. But I think there also comes a point where trying to have a conversation with somebody who just will not hear you is clearly a waste and just pointlessly fucks threads up for everybody else.

He can't be reached, give it up. I have no idea what is wrong with him but his thought process is skewed somehow.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/9/2014 12:28:58 PM

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This from the guy EVERYONE thinks is wacked.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/9/2014 2:21:05 PM

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He can't be reached, give it up. I have no idea what is wrong with him but his thought process is skewed somehow.

I don't remember him being like this, granted I can't recall ever debating him extensively before he left, so I'm not a good judge. Did he used to be like this? I'm kind of wondering if something's happened.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/9/2014 2:57:58 PM

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That's because there was no point debating your silly Jesus zombie threads, the tone of the bulk of what you've posted over the years.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/9/2014 4:10:50 PM

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He can't be reached, give it up. I have no idea what is wrong with him but his thought process is skewed somehow.

I don't remember him being like this, granted I can't recall ever debating him extensively before he left, so I'm not a good judge. Did he used to be like this? I'm kind of wondering if something's happened.

Not that I recall but he was always a little odd.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/9/2014 4:12:44 PM

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This from the guy EVERYONE thinks is wacked.

You mean the cons and the nuts. I do not mind being insulted by that group in the least. You are now firmly on the record as defending a guy who think psi is real and the big bang isn't.

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/9/2014 4:13:17 PM

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AND once again, that's shit you made up.

Do you ever get dizzy?

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RE: -=Federal Judge Strikes Down Virginia Gay Marriage ... - 7/9/2014 4:17:36 PM

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AND once again, that's shit you made up.

Sad. You jumped in and came to kirata's defense several times and he is most certainly a nut who has stated those beliefs. You really should think before you leap.

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