joether
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How does one determine the skill of an individual during a random selection process? Someone in the military for eight years could be a crappy shot on the average, while someone that had sever really fired guns for one reason or another, turn out to be a near deadeye sharpshooter? A study like this is not meant to be a competition shooting, but to find answers to questions by determining a good way to test the hypothesis.
It's nothing to do with shooting accuracy, Joether. It's the role the firearm plays psychologically for the individual carrying it. It's like doing a study on how badly alcohol impairs judgement, using only 21 year olds with little to no experience drinking.
Without the data on who the subjects were, the study might as well be a "which Simpsons character are you" test on Facebook.
Dude, you usually have better arguments than this one. In fact, you usually know well enough not to step into this kind of bullshit....
That said....
So basically what your saying is, a study is not 'correct' nor 'accurate', unless *ALL* the people being tested are 100%, Grade A, Gun Nuts? Sorry, but scientific studies if they have any real credibility do not 'stack the court'. Maybe in creationism, but not in most credible studies.
When studies are performed related to alcoholic consumption the questions do matter. Testing how beer effects the human mind when the question is "How do teenage brains handle the substance?" they do not look for 45 year old men for obvious reasons. Unlike firearms, studies were 'alcohol' have played a central role have heaps of evidence. Why have the number of actual studies related to firearms (this would be non-statically studies) been extremely few and fair inbetween? Unlike drugs and alcohol, firearms are a political hot potato. Many people can point out that the Firearm Industry and its bitch, the NRA, will go to any and all lengths to keep such studies from coming to life....UNLESS...the outcome is rated in the most positive terms for the firearm industry. Only extremist religious groups go to the same lengths....
When a study is conducted, its good to get a fair mixture of different skills, if a firearm study were to be crafted. Knowing stacking the court would damage the potential good data to be found. Though what you fail to understand, is that many studies *DO* know who participated in the study. They do not give that information out because its PRIVATE information. UNLESS, a consent for release of information is given.
You know what the really funny part about gun studies are? The number of egotistical guys that will say the whole thing was rigged against the person with the firearm and that they would have done exceedingly better. Yet, when placed in that position, their bodies perform unsurprisingly the same way. That's why we perform studies, Heretic, to understand the world around us. I say we should publish more studies of this kind. Would put the Firearm Industry to shame the same as the Tobacco Industry. I have no problem if many of those studies come back positive for the firearm industry (assuming everything is performed honest and legitimately). How many gun nuts can say the same if the reverse was true? Not a single one. An there, Heretic, lies their fear. A fear that overrides their ability to put their bullshit to actual real tests, rather than a belief system. Since if we allowed belief systems to rule us, the sun would *STILL* be orbiting the Earth.
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