BecomingV
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ORIGINAL: OriginalRebel I will add though, not all switches have a submissive side. A dominant with a masochistic streak is still considered a switch At best, I'd say that's an area of debate. I think that debate leans towards the side of the very definition of "switch" IS being both Dominant and submissive. A masochistic Dominant may order the submissive to "top," which is about service through providing stimulation and acting in accordance with the commands of their Dominant. D/s and S&M are entirely different concepts. It's worth reading about. I have a very broad understanding of D/s and S&M. I think on this site, which is primarily a D/s site, the definition of switch leads to it being thought of as both dominant and submissive but a switch can be many things including "Top" (a sadist) and "bottom" (a masochist). There are long term switch partners that completely embrace themselves in the D/s element and there are people who never add D/s into their dynamic. A slave providing an entertaining service for her Master isn't a switch but that wasn't what I was saying. A slave who looks eagerly at the whip and craves to whip some random subs ass likely is. What I was saying is, you don't have to be dominant or submissive to be a switch and you don't have to be a masochist or a sadist to be a switch, you do however need to be in one of those groups and of course you could be in both. Bold ^^^ is mine to highlight where opinions differ. OP -this is a great example of what happens when intelligent minds differ. Assuming both posters are fairly experienced, well-read and earnest; these varying points of view still arise. The need to gain understanding of another person's use of a term or label is clearly shown in this one exchange. While there are coalitions, bestsellers and presenters to turn to for some sense of central, unified meaning(s), these too, vary in credibility and esteem. So, which meanings are correct and how is that proven? Does anyone have the answer? For now, I do accept a consensus of opinion as "reality" and I think that OriginalRebel's point about taking note of which site "you" are using is important, as it may affect how meanings are commonly understood. I suspect that a lot of anti-switch sentiments are based on sheer ignorance and negative assumptions. Sadly, some switch-hating arises from the same place as hatred of bisexual, biracial and transgender people. Some folks appear to be myopic, polarized and well... let's call it what it is... mentally deficient. The OP asks a particularly deep question. I turn to Foucault's concept of "Othering" for that answer: http://www.netplaces.com/philosophy-book/modern-and-postmodern-philosophers/michel-foucault.htm
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