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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 4:05:02 PM   
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While you blather on about how many people in this country have few (or non existent) opportunities,

A simple trip down google lane could disabuse you of this ignorance


consider sub Saharan Africa, where farmers farm maybe, at best 1/4 acre, owned by a "master", until just a few years ago, purely subsistence...hand to mouth at best....they wheel their wheat or soy into the marketplace, over miles of dusty dirt road, towing it by hand and cart.

If ANYONE has had the world shit down their throat, these are your study group.

5 years ago they'd go into the marketplace and a buyer would say "market is a buck a bushel" (pretty much what they just carried in with sweat, over miles, no shoes, on hard scrabble roads, from a home with no running water, no electricity) and, not knowing any better, they accepted that buck a bushel,

Where the fuck is this mythical shithole that your feeble opinion has creaated? See above. I thought spelling it out in actual words was fairly clear.




yet a few years ago (you can look it up on Google....really) they, through the Gates Foundation,



Just what the fuck are we suppose to look up?Some mythical country in africa that lil bill sent some obsolete flip phones to????Not my fucking opinion not my fucking job to validate it. It's not a country....it's a section of a continent. (Most know that).

were provided smart phones for 20 bucks a month.

They are selling their product for $1 @ bushel for what they can hump to market and now you are telling us that they are paying $20 month for a phone This is just moronic bullshit. Really? Fascinating.


Their education level, their fathers education level, their grandfathers education level, their great grand fathers education level....ad infinitum.....was at best, (collectively) equivalent to a fart.

Why do you feel that the only valid education/knowledge comes from an academic source. Is it possible that others may learn from experience or are you the only one who is capable of that? Everyone is capable of that ThompsonX, that's been my point throughout this entire conversation. I don't think anyone is unclear about that but for you.

If they could count to 3, they were the Einstein of their family. If they understood the concept of zero, they were the equivalent in their family of Copernicus.


This would be the ignrant (ignorant) unsubstantiated opinion of someone who has never been to africa? I've never been to Saturn either, but I'm fairly confident of the satellite imagery we've received since the 70's, indicating new discoveries.

Gates decided that if they shared these phones (providing them with solar panels to power them), they could research the "actual" market prices and be better business people.

How much did lil bill make on the deal? Who gives a shit? farmers have increased their incomes by virtue. Who cares if he jacks off every time they turn on their phones?

Interestingly, they (the farmers) discovered they were being boned by the buyers....discovered the market price was actually about 3 bucks and were able, thanks to technology (knowledge) to better their lot in life and obtain (not 'attain"....it's kind of like "further" and "farther") a better (market) price for their product, increasing their revenues and profits and in multiple cases, purchase the land outright, that they were barely Serfs on previously, further increasing their profits and lot in life.


So far we have only your unsubstantiated opinion for this. Has this country got a name? Again, for further clarification, it's not a country, it's a section of the continent called "Africa".

All the waaaaaaaaaahmbulance calling ensuring that "we'll neeeeeeevr maaaaaake it" is entirely debased by these very same folks who have spent eons, literally centuries being fucked over by those who would take advantage of them, yet with an education of less than a grain of sand, they have taken advantage of opportunity when it was placed in front of them.

Because they decided winning was better than losing.

So far we only have your opinion for this. Actually, we don't...we have Google, MSN and others which can provide all kinds of documentation on this subject. All you need is a desire to learn and it, like a million other topics, is available to you.

And yet you still insist that barricades placed by white liberals in this country is/are stopping millions who can't grow forth due to the giant hand of implacability, determined to push down those who would do well, but for the thumb that insists on placing it's ugly forage on those who could...but for their horrible and unfortunate inability to move forward.


Well there is the historical record which stands in stark contrast to your childish opinions. Do explain.

Get a life Thompson.

I have had a pretty good one for the past 69 + years....I am still verticle

If you don't want to succeed in life, go...fail as often as you want.

Failing is something that you have claimed to enjoy not me. Indeed I do. I can't wait to fuck up again. Just one step closer.

Stop trying to endlessly, and with futility, trying to convince (ineffectively) those that with just a bit of hope, may realize....they can.

They can.

You can't. We all understand that.




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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 4:08:15 PM   
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I'm sorry I should have warned you the story is impregnanted with molecules that when read through the internet submits signals to the brain that changes your whole brain chemistry and is transmitted via smart meters from your home to the government.The only waY to reverse the changes is to read the story backwards.


I tried that but all I got was donkey shit on the floor of the front room.



No doubt a common occurrence in your household.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 4:31:36 PM   
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Affirmative Action is racially discriminatory in and of itself.

How so???



Because Jesse Jackson said so on the radio about 3 years ago explaining how it was "another way for the white man to keep the black man down".

I have asked you before to validate this opinion several pages ago.






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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 4:45:17 PM   
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Just what the fuck are we suppose to look up?Some mythical country in africa that lil bill sent some obsolete flip phones to????Not my fucking opinion not my fucking job to validate it.


It's not a country....it's a section of a continent. (Most know that).

So far only you are aware of where this mythical occurance happened. Should you care to share this data we could discuss it...since you choose not to produce it one can only assume that you dont have any facts to back up your midnumbingly stupid opinions.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 4:47:52 PM   
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Their education level, their fathers education level, their grandfathers education level, their great grand fathers education level....ad infinitum.....was at best, (collectively) equivalent to a fart.




Everyone is capable of that ThompsonX, that's been my point throughout this entire conversation. I don't think anyone is unclear about that but for you.

Does it hurt your mouth when you talk out of both sides of it at the same time.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 4:53:45 PM   
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your unsubstantiated opinion for this. Has this country got a name?



Again, for further clarification, it's not a country, it's a section of the continent called "Africa".

But the exact location of this section of the continent called africa is still your little secret.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 4:56:16 PM   
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While you blather on about how many people in this country have few (or non existent) opportunities,

A simple trip down google lane could disabuse you of this ignorance


consider sub Saharan Africa, where farmers farm maybe, at best 1/4 acre, owned by a "master", until just a few years ago, purely subsistence...hand to mouth at best....they wheel their wheat or soy into the marketplace, over miles of dusty dirt road, towing it by hand and cart.

If ANYONE has had the world shit down their throat, these are your study group.

5 years ago they'd go into the marketplace and a buyer would say "market is a buck a bushel" (pretty much what they just carried in with sweat, over miles, no shoes, on hard scrabble roads, from a home with no running water, no electricity) and, not knowing any better, they accepted that buck a bushel,

Where the fuck is this mythical shithole that your feeble opinion has created?



See above. I thought spelling it out in actual words was fairly clear.

Of course there would be actual countries in sub saharan africa...but you do not seem too sure just which one or ones fit your little parable.


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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 5:03:24 PM   
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Just what the fuck are we suppose to look up?Some mythical country in africa that lil bill sent some obsolete flip phones to????Not my fucking opinion not my fucking job to validate it.


It's not a country....it's a section of a continent. (Most know that).

So far only you are aware of where this mythical occurance happened. Should you care to share this data we could discuss it...since you choose not to produce it one can only assume that you dont have any facts to back up your midnumbingly stupid opinions.


I've been clear. Once again, Africa is a continent.

Sub Saharan Africa is a place within Africa.

(This is not incredibly complicated)

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 5:04:38 PM   
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Their education level, their fathers education level, their grandfathers education level, their great grand fathers education level....ad infinitum.....was at best, (collectively) equivalent to a fart.




Everyone is capable of that ThompsonX, that's been my point throughout this entire conversation. I don't think anyone is unclear about that but for you.

Does it hurt your mouth when you talk out of both sides of it at the same time.



Not at all (since I don't).

Does it hurt your brain when you have difficulty understanding concepts that most 5th graders grasp?

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 5:05:08 PM   
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Because they decided winning was better than losing.

So far we only have your opinion for this.



Actually, we don't...we have Google, MSN and others which can provide all kinds of documentation on this subject. All you need is a desire to learn and it, like a million other topics, is available to you

No what we are looking for is some sort of idea of what the fuck you are babbling about. Sub saharan africa is a pretty big place.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 5:06:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

While you blather on about how many people in this country have few (or non existent) opportunities,

A simple trip down google lane could disabuse you of this ignorance


consider sub Saharan Africa, where farmers farm maybe, at best 1/4 acre, owned by a "master", until just a few years ago, purely subsistence...hand to mouth at best....they wheel their wheat or soy into the marketplace, over miles of dusty dirt road, towing it by hand and cart.

If ANYONE has had the world shit down their throat, these are your study group.

5 years ago they'd go into the marketplace and a buyer would say "market is a buck a bushel" (pretty much what they just carried in with sweat, over miles, no shoes, on hard scrabble roads, from a home with no running water, no electricity) and, not knowing any better, they accepted that buck a bushel,

Where the fuck is this mythical shithole that your feeble opinion has created?



See above. I thought spelling it out in actual words was fairly clear.

Of course there would be actual countries in sub saharan africa...but you do not seem too sure just which one or ones fit your little parable.



There are indeed many countries in sub Saharan Africa, much like there are many states in the southwest and southeast of the United States.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 5:08:01 PM   
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Because they decided winning was better than losing.

So far we only have your opinion for this.



Actually, we don't...we have Google, MSN and others which can provide all kinds of documentation on this subject. All you need is a desire to learn and it, like a million other topics, is available to you

No what we are looking for is some sort of idea of what the fuck you are babbling about. Sub saharan africa is a pretty big place.


See previous above post. Possibly it will provide some guidance.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 5:09:25 PM   
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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 5:15:58 PM   
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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 6:40:42 PM   
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Interestingly, ThompsonX, over the last 4 -7 screens, you've accused me of theft, bias, illegal activities, bankruptcy, cheating in business, and you've been more than specific and rather direct in your accusations.

Each time I've asked for clarification of your accusations, you've avoided responding to them (in abundance).

I think it would prove rather instructive if you did, don't you think?


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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 7:07:04 PM   
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Interestingly, ThompsonX, over the last 4 -7 screens, you've accused me of theft, bias, illegal activities, bankruptcy, cheating in business, and you've been more than specific and rather direct in your accusations.

Each time I've asked for clarification of your accusations, you've avoided responding to them (in abundance).

I think it would prove rather instructive if you did, don't you think?




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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 7:29:33 PM   
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Their education level, their fathers education level, their grandfathers education level, their great grand fathers education level....ad infinitum.....was at best, (collectively) equivalent to a fart.




Everyone is capable of that ThompsonX, that's been my point throughout this entire conversation. I don't think anyone is unclear about that but for you.

Does it hurt your mouth when you talk out of both sides of it at the same time.



Not at all (since I don't).

You find the two above statements to be mutually supportive?. Perhaps if I were to speak real slow...In the first statement you claim that these people are as you put it dumber than a fart and yet in the next statement you claim that anyone can do it. Obviously these people were not making it because your buddy bill had to help them out.
Now you know why no one takes your moronic post seriously.




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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/14/2014 7:35:18 PM   
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Interestingly, ThompsonX, over the last 4 -7 screens, you've accused me of theft, bias, illegal activities, bankruptcy, cheating in business, and you've been more than specific and rather direct in your accusations.


The proof of everything I have posted is in the post...quoted from your own hand. So when you advocate illegal activities I am going to be quick to point out your inconsistancies in logic.

Each time I've asked for clarification of your accusations, you've avoided responding to them (in abundance).

Perhaps if you were to find someone who reads english they might be able to help you.

I think it would prove rather instructive if you did, don't you think?

I thought it was most instructive when I pointed out the shallowness of your position.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/15/2014 5:44:55 AM   
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I'm sorry I should have warned you the story is impregnanted with molecules that when read through the internet submits signals to the brain that changes your whole brain chemistry and is transmitted via smart meters from your home to the government.The only waY to reverse the changes is to read the story backwards.


I tried that but all I got was donkey shit on the floor of the front room.


CRAP!!!! I forgot to tell you that was a side effect.

ps I cant find the original author so I guess it is whoever is telling the story at that time.

hands you paper towels and a mop

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/15/2014 8:46:12 AM   
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My argument has been throughout....that "it can't be done" (by some races because of their history) is just plain fallacy.


I don't think the argument here has been "it can't be done," but rather, it's asked in a form of a question "How can it be done?" Examining the history is important to understand how we got to this point. It's a matter of understanding our own history and the damage it has caused to our nation and the people who live in it. Some people are still in denial about that - or they minimize and play down the magnitude of the issue in question. They might say "it can't be done" because there are those in society actively working against "it" being done.

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Unless you have physical or mental limitations that truly limit you (Stephen Hawking excluded because, his brain will likely be preserved, plugged in to some nuclear source and continue working for us through the year 4,219), you can absolutely achieve more.

I absolutely can't stand comments, they make me cringe, that because of some races awful history, they're subject to some horrible future.


The thing is, that "awful history" is also something that's part of our race and country, too. I think things have improved in my lifetime, and I'd like to think that the future will be better (although you never know). But the important thing is to at least be honest about our history and our current situation. If someone puts in their best effort to "reach for a star," and if they're denied access or opportunity due to their race, then that's a crime that has to be addressed. It doesn't mean they're not trying or that they don't have to make an effort, but we, as a society, have an interest in making sure that everyone is treated fairly and equally.

In this thread, I think people have been addressing what they see as denial. Some posters seem to be denying that racism is a problem in society and are implying that it's the minorities' own fault that they're not succeeding. To be sure, many have succeeded and done quite well for themselves. Also, it stands to reason that there may be other problems in society (besides racism) which may be hindering society's ability to improve the lot of its people and ensure that all are being treated fairly and equitably.

I think there may be some inherent systemic flaws that may also be to blame here. Although many key reforms were made in our society to end racism and discrimination in this country, the same basic structure and foundation was kept intact. Wall Street was still Wall Street. The Mob was still the Mob. The military-industrial complex and the national security state were still there. The government was still the government. The rich still remained rich. The standard of living did improve after WW2, as we had the good fortune of being one of the few countries that didn't have wiped-out industries and devastated economies. Even if there were genuine desires for reform and change in society, it seems that they only existed at the surface - something that we were trying to do to improve our national image and reputation, but there seemed to be a reluctance (on all sides) to really get to the core of what the problem is or was. And I think it's perfectly natural that a lot of people just want to forget the past, get over it, move forward, and everyone should just get along and be free, ambitious, successful, rich - and everything will be just great.

But it might also seem like the equivalent of giving plastic surgery and a makeover to a corpse. That may be why some people have certain misgivings about the way things are currently going.

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