RE: Bergdahl

Join Our Community

Collarchat.com

Home Login Search

RE: Bergdahl

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Bergdahl

Page: << < prev 4 5 [6] 7 8 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Bergdahl - 6/2/2014 8:31:19 PM

DomKen

Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

If you have an open mind you might research the circumstances of his disappearance, his writings and statements immediately before his disappearance, and what many of the former soldiers who served with him have to say.

"Former" is a key word, for fairly obvious reasons

It's almost like they became disillusioned, ain't it?

There are damn good questions we are going to want to find the answers to, but first and foremost, Bergdahl was an American soldier in enemy captivity.

And we don't leave any behind.

(in reply to TheHeretic)

Profile

Post #: 101

RE: Bergdahl - 6/2/2014 8:33:17 PM

DomKen

Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Are you aware of the outrages they had perpetrated against others?
Are you aware they aided, abetted, sheltered, and protected those who most certainly did attack us?

Defending the Taliban is an exercise in absurdity even for you

I'm defending no one. I'm just pointing out that we have no idea whether these guys mean us harm or not.

(in reply to truckinslave)

Profile

Post #: 102

RE: Bergdahl - 6/2/2014 9:13:35 PM

kdsub

Posts: 12180
Joined: 8/16/2007
Status: offline

Here are the wonderful peaceful men we released that would never ever harm and American in the future.

Butch

_____________________________

Mark Twain:

I don't see any use in having a uniform and arbitrary way of spelling words. We might as well make all clothes alike and cook all dishes alike. Sameness is tiresome; variety is pleasing

(in reply to DomKen)

Profile

Post #: 103

RE: Bergdahl - 6/2/2014 9:17:46 PM

TheHeretic

Posts: 19100
Joined: 3/25/2007
From: California, USA
Status: offline

Unless of course we chipped the Gitmo detainees for GPS, and can put a drone-fired missile on them any time we like...

Just a fun little thought.

_____________________________

If you lose one sense, your other senses are enhanced.
That's why people with no sense of humor have such an inflated sense of self-importance.

(in reply to kdsub)

Profile

Post #: 104

RE: Bergdahl - 6/2/2014 9:34:39 PM

kdsub

Posts: 12180
Joined: 8/16/2007
Status: offline

Better yet…

Let them all go

Pull every soldier back to the US

Bring every missile and plane...and weapon with us.

Build a wall along the borders

Let no one in but let anyone out that wants to leave

Import nothing…export nothing… talk with no one outside our borders.

If there is something we need that we have no resources … fuck it do without and or develop alternate devices or materials.

Keep a strong military

Fuck the rest of the worthless world.

If I were king

Butch

ps... I'd let Lucy in

< Message edited by kdsub -- 6/2/2014 9:37:13 PM >

_____________________________

Mark Twain:

I don't see any use in having a uniform and arbitrary way of spelling words. We might as well make all clothes alike and cook all dishes alike. Sameness is tiresome; variety is pleasing

(in reply to TheHeretic)

Profile

Post #: 105

RE: Bergdahl - 6/2/2014 9:44:37 PM

TheHeretic

Posts: 19100
Joined: 3/25/2007
From: California, USA
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

Better yet…

Let them all go

Pull every soldier back to the US

Bring every missile and plane...and weapon with us.

Build a wall along the borders

Let no one in but let anyone out that wants to leave

Import nothing…export nothing… talk with no one outside our borders.

If there is something we need that we have no resources … fuck it do without and or develop alternate devices or materials.

Keep a strong military

Fuck the rest of the worthless world.

If I were king

Butch

ps... I'd let Lucy in

I'd disagree with pretty much all that, other than keeping a strong military (which we are currently not doing).

No need for special dispensation for Lucy, if she ever turns up again.

_____________________________

If you lose one sense, your other senses are enhanced.
That's why people with no sense of humor have such an inflated sense of self-importance.

(in reply to kdsub)

Profile

Post #: 106

RE: Bergdahl - 6/2/2014 9:53:39 PM

MrRodgers

Posts: 10540
Joined: 7/30/2005
Status: offline

Here it is in a nutshell...let's start two more very long, very profitable wars founded on lies and when our people are taken...we will once again not negotiate with their captors.

(in reply to truckinslave)

Profile

Post #: 107

RE: Bergdahl - 6/2/2014 10:04:17 PM

OwnerOfFems

Posts: 8
Joined: 1/1/2004
Status: offline

You know, I'm probably more qualified to speak about these 5 enemy combatants than anyone else on this site -- I'm also the least able to. I was at GITMO. I can tell you the beaches sucked, the beer was cold, and the fishing was good. I can also say I was assigned to Camp Delta 1 and 2 in a supervisory capacity of the guard force in the early years. I saw their files and many other ones. None of these prisoners should of been released. I don't care what promises were made by the Qatar government, these 5 have been wanted back by the Taliban for quite a while and with reason. They will resurface in Afghanistan again and it will not be good for the stability of the government -- not that it's that stable to start with. I also know some you have the luxury of taking the high ground on how these individuals should be treated with our ideas of civil rights and due process. Let me tell you, they would slit your f'ing throats in a heartbeat. Those are concepts that are lost on them.

Now while down there, our job was to secure and safeguard them in accordance with the Geneva Conventions (despite what many said about them not applying), the Articles of War, and US law. We did that and we did it in nothing less than a professional manner with the prisoners under our control. I can say I was proud of my troops then, and my old unit is currently back there conducting the same mission with the same degree of professionalism. Now, ask me personally what should be done with these prisoners, and I will tell you a bullet in the back of the head of the majority of them. Could I play God and decide? Absolutely, and not lose a moment of sleep over it.

(in reply to DomKen)

Profile

Post #: 108

RE: Bergdahl - 6/2/2014 10:37:14 PM

FatDomDaddy

Posts: 3183
Joined: 1/31/2004
Status: offline

Was he?

Not if he defected.

Nolt if he collobrated.

(in reply to TheHeretic)

Profile

Post #: 109

RE: Bergdahl - 6/2/2014 10:54:05 PM

TheHeretic

Posts: 19100
Joined: 3/25/2007
From: California, USA
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Was he?

Not if he defected.

Nolt if he collobrated.

Yes, FDD, he was. We set the bar for treason very high in this country, and we operate on innocent until proven guilty.

Short of showing up chanting to 'death to America" and shooting an AK-47 on the Bowe al-Amriki YouTube channel, he is first and foremost an American soldier.

_____________________________

If you lose one sense, your other senses are enhanced.
That's why people with no sense of humor have such an inflated sense of self-importance.

(in reply to FatDomDaddy)

Profile

Post #: 110

RE: Bergdahl - 6/3/2014 6:16:51 AM

DomKen

Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Was he?

Not if he defected.

Nolt if he collobrated.

The question is how do you determine collaboration? Was McCain a collaborator? He signed a confession.

But no matter under what circumstances he left that FOB he was still one of ours and we don't leave any behind.

(in reply to FatDomDaddy)

Profile

Post #: 111

RE: Bergdahl - 6/3/2014 7:56:55 AM

kdsub

Posts: 12180
Joined: 8/16/2007
Status: offline

I liked some of the corral sand beaches...and the Navy food was pretty good too... of course that was 40 years ago.

Thanks for the interesting perspective.

Butch

< Message edited by kdsub -- 6/3/2014 7:57:43 AM >

_____________________________

Mark Twain:

I don't see any use in having a uniform and arbitrary way of spelling words. We might as well make all clothes alike and cook all dishes alike. Sameness is tiresome; variety is pleasing

(in reply to OwnerOfFems)

Profile

Post #: 112

RE: Bergdahl - 6/3/2014 8:01:06 AM

DomKen

Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

I liked some of the corral sand beaches...and the Navy food was pretty good too... of course that was 40 years ago.

Thanks for the interesting perspective.

Butch

It was always humid as hell when I was there. I liked Roosevelt Roads better. More to do.

I've always thought it was a shame it got turned into a prison though.

< Message edited by DomKen -- 6/3/2014 8:02:40 AM >

(in reply to kdsub)

Profile

Post #: 113

RE: Bergdahl - 6/3/2014 10:12:21 AM

thishereboi

Posts: 14463
Joined: 6/19/2008
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

they were Taliban leaders not terrorists

An absurdity, n'est ce pas, akin to picking up a turd by the clean end.
No wonder you jerk so violently at the mere (undirected) use of the word: Islamapologist.

You do understand that before we attacked the Taliban they had never attacked us?

I have to say I find it really amusing to watch someone who keeps crying about the gop's supposed war on women, but has not problems defending this group.

_____________________________

"Sweetie, you're wasting your gum" .. Albert

This here is the boi formerly known as orfunboi

(in reply to DomKen)

Profile

Post #: 114

RE: Bergdahl - 6/3/2014 10:55:33 AM

DomKen

Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

they were Taliban leaders not terrorists

An absurdity, n'est ce pas, akin to picking up a turd by the clean end.
No wonder you jerk so violently at the mere (undirected) use of the word: Islamapologist.

You do understand that before we attacked the Taliban they had never attacked us?

I have to say I find it really amusing to watch someone who keeps crying about the gop's supposed war on women, but has not problems defending this group.

You might want to get your head out of your ass.

There is a big difference between stating facts and defending these guys.

(in reply to thishereboi)

Profile

Post #: 115

RE: Bergdahl - 6/3/2014 1:07:22 PM

Politesub53

Posts: 14862
Joined: 5/7/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

Here are the wonderful peaceful men we released that would never ever harm and American in the future.

Butch

So like I asked before, why havent the US already tried them ?

(in reply to kdsub)

Profile

Post #: 116

RE: Bergdahl - 6/3/2014 3:32:32 PM

truckinslave

Posts: 3897
Joined: 6/16/2004
Status: offline

There is no way to defeat willful ignorance

_____________________________

1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

(in reply to kdsub)

Profile

Post #: 117

RE: Bergdahl - 6/3/2014 3:33:40 PM

subrob1967

Posts: 4591
Joined: 9/13/2004
Status: offline

FR

We don't leave anyone behind... Really Ken?

_____________________________

http://www.extra-life.org/

(in reply to Politesub53)

Profile

Post #: 118

RE: Bergdahl - 6/3/2014 3:50:51 PM

DomKen

Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

FR

We don't leave anyone behind... Really Ken?

We did not leave any known POW's in Vietnam. The claims that we did have been investigated and found to be untrue, even that site says so. I'd damn well like to get every remains back as well but that may simply be impossible. Bodies rot in a jungle really fast and thoroughly.

(in reply to subrob1967)

Profile

Post #: 119

RE: Bergdahl - 6/3/2014 5:25:30 PM

Sanity