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Zonie63 -> RE: Let Your Far-Left Freak Flag Fly (10/28/2014 9:29:58 AM)
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ORIGINAL: bossman777
Mr. Sanity, I don't know why you try to reason with the morons on this sex site about politics. Some here actually believe businesses don't create jobs... Anyone who could believe that is clearly out of touch with reality. I'll give a very simple example: I've been self employed for almost 30 years. My business provides at least one job: mine (plus a few others for people I've hired now and then).
I just want you to know that some here find your comments insightful and thoughtful. Keep it up.
History proves you're spot on with your original post. The endgame with socialists/communists/fascists is always the same: slavery, poverty, and death. Everytime and everywhere it's been tried. Unfortunately too many people, like in this thread, have no ability to match the rhetoric they hear--which sounds good--to the reality it brings later. They haven't studied history enough.
The only point I would add is this: the *only* time in human history where a society accumulated massive wealth, productivity, a huge middle class, and maximum individual freedom--was here in the USA prior to socialist policies taking dominance in the 1930's. It's clear to me from this experience, and should be to everyone, that the recipe for prosperity is only consistent with individual liberty. No government will ever deliver that kind of prosperity; only individuals left alone to pursue their own dreams will.
Your history is flawed. It wasn't until after the "socialist" policies of the 1930s and 40s came to pass that there was far greater wealth, productivity, a huge middle class, and maximum individual freedom which showed itself in massive economic booms of the 1950s and 60s. Industrial production and standard of living grew by leaps and bounds. More people could move out of the tenements and into their own homes. We had a far more affluent society than we had ever had in our history. Prior to the 1940s, life in America was as grim as a Dickens novel. My grandparents' generation might have said that it made them tougher and more resilient, although it was certainly no picnic of "massive wealth" and "maximum individual freedom," not for most Americans.
Of course, we did build up a great deal of wealth in the 18th and 19th centuries by acquiring land and resources through the same methods you accuse other countries of doing: Slavery, poverty, and death. If you've studied history as you claim, you would already know this to be true.
And a large reason why many of these "socialist" policies came about was not only due to a desire for economic and social justice, but also because of a very real sense that the nation was in danger from external enemies, such as during WW2 which then led us to the Cold War. Even the business community went along with these "socialist" policies because they themselves found new opportunities for wealth and profit. That also helped to create jobs, and with even the "little people" gaining more wealth and having more disposable income, other businesses and jobs started cropping up since there was more money floating around the economy anyway.
I think the phrase that "business creates jobs" is a bit of a misnomer and doesn't accurately describe the actual process which takes place. It's more of a tired-out slogan that the Reaganites used to peddle - but aren't finding as many zealous devotees as they once did. As the Cold War generation ages and dies out, there will probably less and less of those kinds of slogans and the ideas they represent. Their rhetoric has already become stale and fossilized.
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