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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/11/2015 3:58:39 PM   
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Apparently about 60 people arrested yesterday for the highway protest. So the police seem to be doing their job.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/mass-arrests-after-ferguson-protesters-block-highway-n407611

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/11/2015 4:25:40 PM   
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They have no problem telling others how to control riots...will come give a hand or shut the hell up.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/11/2015 4:31:32 PM   
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The story in the Post says the Oath Keepers were hired as security by a news service for protection. They are also offering their service to business owners. I do not blame them for doing so... they are not on the streets pointing weapons for show but providing a needed service.

So Joe grossly distorted the story, what a shock.

Well, his source was NPR. Given the history of destruction in the area, I especially liked the St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar calling the presence of the Oath Keepers "unnecessary and inflammatory". Seriously? But looting and rioting isn't "unnecessary and inflammatory"? And when the Columbia MO Police Officers Association's Facebook page on August 9th remembered Darren Wilson, "an innocent and persecuted officer," it was called "offensive" and "insensitive" by both the Columbia Police Chief and the Mayor. Yeah fuck, the truth is what's offensive and insensitive to these people.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/11/2015 4:49:41 PM   
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The story in the Post says the Oath Keepers were hired as security by a news service for protection. They are also offering their service to business owners. I do not blame them for doing so... they are not on the streets pointing weapons for show but providing a needed service.

So Joe grossly distorted the story, what a shock.

Well, his source was NPR. Given the history of destruction in the area, I especially liked the St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar calling the presence of the Oath Keepers "unnecessary and inflammatory". Seriously? But looting and rioting isn't "unnecessary and inflammatory"? And when the Columbia MO Police Officers Association's Facebook page on August 9th remembered Darren Wilson, "an innocent and persecuted officer," it was called "offensive" and "insensitive" by both the Columbia Police Chief and the Mayor. Yeah fuck, the truth is what's offensive and insensitive to these people.

K.



The truth gets in the way of the narrative.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/11/2015 8:22:34 PM   
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The truth gets in the way of the narrative.

The activist group Organization of Black Struggle defended the actions of Tyrone Harris — the man who opened fire upon and was then shot by police officers in Ferguson, Mo. on Sunday night — by shifting the initial blame back upon the police department.

“It was a poor decision to use plain clothes officers in a protest setting,” Kayla Reid, a field organizer for the group, said on Monday. “It made it difficult for people to identify police officers, which is essential to the safety of community members.”

During the ensuing chaos, Harris approached an unmarked police van and opened fire on the vehicle. Officers got out, opened fire and chased after the fleeing Harris. He would eventually turn and fire a second salvo of shots at the officers, at which point he was shot several times.
~Source

Because the police don't care about the safety of the black community.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/11/2015 8:47:46 PM   
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The truth gets in the way of the narrative.

The activist group Organization of Black Struggle defended the actions of Tyrone Harris — the man who opened fire upon and was then shot by police officers in Ferguson, Mo. on Sunday night — by shifting the initial blame back upon the police department.

“It was a poor decision to use plain clothes officers in a protest setting,” Kayla Reid, a field organizer for the group, said on Monday. “It made it difficult for people to identify police officers, which is essential to the safety of community members.”

During the ensuing chaos, Harris approached an unmarked police van and opened fire on the vehicle. Officers got out, opened fire and chased after the fleeing Harris. He would eventually turn and fire a second salvo of shots at the officers, at which point he was shot several times.
~Source

Because the police don't care about the safety of the black community.

K.



It sounds like they are saying the cops are wrong because they made Harris think he was attacking people who couldn't fight back.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/20/2015 7:55:13 AM   
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Well another update on black lives matter in Ferguson... This was not an accidental drive by shooting... this child and mother were targeted... WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESES PEOPLE?

Well another update on black lives matter in St. Louis. Last week a 93 year old hero of WWII a Tuskegee airman became disorientated and pulled over to call for help... a black man jumped in his car and robbed him... He tried to follow the robber but got lost. He pulled over to ask for help and two black men kicked him from his car and took off with it... In the same area a 3 year old shot himself in the head because a family member left a loaded pistol under the pillow... a loaded shot gun on the floor and a loaded automatic on the nightstand... then put the child on the bed and left... This is the same area a black man was shot dead in an intersection.

The police decided to step up policing actions in the area and when two men came from a dug house... one with two weapons and the other with one and pointed them at police... the resulting fire killed one of the assailants... what do the police get for risking their lives to protect them.... RIOTS AND LOOTING... WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESES PEOPLE?

Butch



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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/20/2015 8:14:52 AM   
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Well another update on black lives matter in Ferguson... This was not an accidental drive by shooting... this child and mother were targeted... WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESES PEOPLE?

Well another update on black lives matter in St. Louis. Last week a 93 year old hero of WWII a Tuskegee airman became disorientated and pulled over to call for help... a black man jumped in his car and robbed him... He tried to follow the robber but got lost. He pulled over to ask for help and two black men kicked him from his car and took off with it... In the same area a 3 year old shot himself in the head because a family member left a loaded pistol under the pillow... a loaded shot gun on the floor and a loaded automatic on the nightstand... then put the child on the bed and left... This is the same area a black man was shot dead in an intersection.

The police decided to step up policing actions in the area and when two men came from a dug house... one with two weapons and the other with one and pointed them at police... the resulting fire killed one of the assailants... what do the police get for risking their lives to protect them.... ROITS... WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESES PEOPLE?

Butch



And nine people were arrested in the "protests" about that last shooting, with people declaring that the police just gunned the guy down without reason, he was apparently another "good kid" who would never pull a gun on the cops. So we have raised the standard to the cops are wrong until one of them gets shot. And people wonder why some areas are reduced to anarchy.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/20/2015 8:23:48 AM   
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And people wonder why some areas are reduced to anarchy.


Public utilities still work. Mail is still delivered, The legally constituted authority is still in control....anarchy? By what metric?

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/20/2015 8:56:01 AM   
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And nine people were arrested in the "protests" about that last shooting, with people declaring that the police just gunned the guy down without reason, he was apparently another "good kid" who would never pull a gun on the cops.

In other news, it would appear that BLM agitator Shaun King is another Rachel Donezal. CNN's Don Lemon reports that a family member of King's has told the network that both of Shaun's parents are white!

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/us/shaun-king-controversy/

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/20/2015 9:13:05 AM   
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So nice to see you flying the flag for 'left-leaning' libs again Mr K. I have no idea what possessed me to think you might actually be right of centre. How could I have gotten things so wrong? Must have been a long weekend or something ......

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/20/2015 9:34:16 AM   
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I have no idea what possessed me...

Well, I can sympathize with that. Sometimes I have no idea what possesses you either.

K.






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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/20/2015 3:09:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
And nine people were arrested in the "protests" about that last shooting, with people declaring that the police just gunned the guy down without reason, he was apparently another "good kid" who would never pull a gun on the cops.

In other news, it would appear that BLM agitator Shaun King is another Rachel Donezal. CNN's Don Lemon reports that a family member of King's has told the network that both of Shaun's parents are white!
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/us/shaun-king-controversy/
K.


Technically, the man listed on the birth certificate as his father may not actually be his biological father. His biological father could be black.

It's a bit early to declare him the male version of Donezal.


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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/20/2015 6:33:35 PM   
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Will another black lives matter update...number 130...damn police and white people!

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/21/2015 7:55:09 AM   
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WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESES PEOPLE?


Memory.

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Lynching, the practice of murdering people by extrajudicial mob action, occurred in the United States chiefly from the late 18th century through the 1960s. Lynchings took place most frequently against African-American men in the southern U.S.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/21/2015 9:44:32 AM   
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Bullshit...Please show me where history from the 18th century excuses the actions of the murderers who shoot 9 year old children or rob and hijack 93 year old men... tell me how the history of the 18th century can justify 130 black on black murders in my area...all the way from 3 year old children to 90 year old grandmothers... Bullshit again...there is no excuse and no blame but themselves.

Butch

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/21/2015 9:57:00 AM   
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Bullshit...Please show me where history from the 18th century excuses the actions of the murderers who shoot 9 year old children or rob and hijack 93 year old men... tell me how the history of the 18th century can justify 130 black on black murders in my area...all the way from 3 year old children to 90 year old grandmothers... Bullshit again...there is no excuse and no blame but themselves.

Butch

Yep they are going to show those evil white people by killing the black people themselves.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/21/2015 12:52:57 PM   
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Bullshit...Please show me where history from the 18th century excuses the actions of the murderers who shoot 9 year old children or rob and hijack 93 year old men... tell me how the history of the 18th century can justify 130 black on black murders in my area...all the way from 3 year old children to 90 year old grandmothers... Bullshit again...there is no excuse and no blame but themselves.

Butch
Dont you get it, butch? For some people, history excuses EVERY SINGLE VIOLENT thing the black people do. Worse yet, their leftist defenders will say "yes, rioting is wrong BUT"..."Yes, looting and burning is wrong BUT"..."Yes, assault of/shooting at police officers is wrong BUT" and you just know they're going to give you a reason that blames the victims of the rioting, looting, burning, assault, shooting. Sometimes, that answer is "memory" like it's the perfect one-word answer. It isn't. It's...as you called it...bullshit.

Let's look at another group. From the 1600's until today, women have been treated wrongly and...in many cases...horrifically. What do you suppose would happen if women were to rise up and began this same pattern of violence? Would the left condemn? Or support with their "BUT" answers?

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/21/2015 1:25:17 PM   
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Bullshit...Please show me where history from the 18th century excuses the actions of the murderers who shoot 9 year old children or rob and hijack 93 year old men... tell me how the history of the 18th century can justify 130 black on black murders in my area...all the way from 3 year old children to 90 year old grandmothers... Bullshit again...there is no excuse and no blame but themselves.

Butch
Dont you get it, butch? For some people, history excuses EVERY SINGLE VIOLENT thing the black people do. Worse yet, their leftist defenders will say "yes, rioting is wrong BUT"..."Yes, looting and burning is wrong BUT"..."Yes, assault of/shooting at police officers is wrong BUT" and you just know they're going to give you a reason that blames the victims of the rioting, looting, burning, assault, shooting. Sometimes, that answer is "memory" like it's the perfect one-word answer. It isn't. It's...as you called it...bullshit.

Let's look at another group. From the 1600's until today, women have been treated wrongly and...in many cases...horrifically. What do you suppose would happen if women were to rise up and began this same pattern of violence? Would the left condemn? Or support with their "BUT" answers?


If they thought it would get them votes they would support it.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/22/2015 9:28:32 AM   
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I have been saying for sometime that many of the African Americans in my town have a much different view of Ferguson and the protests then Black Lives Matter groups would have you believe.

When I say, what you will see and hear this woman say, I am racists… I hope when you see it you will understand the strength and courage this young woman is displaying. She is not alone by a long shot but few will take the chance of being called uncle toms.

I hope you LISTEN.

Butch

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