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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/22/2015 12:46:24 PM   
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Dont you get it, butch? For some people, history excuses EVERY SINGLE VIOLENT thing the black people do.


Who are these people you speak of who excuse violence by blacks?





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Worse yet, their leftist defenders will say "yes, rioting is wrong BUT"..."Yes, looting and burning is wrong BUT"..."Yes, assault of/shooting at police officers is wrong BUT" and you just know they're going to give you a reason that blames the victims of the rioting, looting, burning, assault, shooting. Sometimes, that answer is "memory" like it's the perfect one-word answer. It isn't. It's...as you called it...bullshit.


How, exactly, are these rioters any different than the rioters of the "Sons of Liberty"? Did not the founders of this nation do so in a violent manner?

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Let's look at another group. From the 1600's until today, women have been treated wrongly and...in many cases...horrifically.


History tells us that that started a long time before 1600.




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What do you suppose would happen if women were to rise up and began this same pattern of violence? Would the left condemn? Or support with their "BUT" answers?


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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/22/2015 12:50:20 PM   
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Bullshit...Please show me where history from the 18th century excuses the actions of the murderers who shoot 9 year old children or rob and hijack 93 year old men... tell me how the history of the 18th century can justify 130 black on black murders in my area...all the way from 3 year old children to 90 year old grandmothers... Bullshit again...there is no excuse and no blame but themselves.

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The 1960 's are not the 18th century.

"Lynching, the practice of murdering people by extrajudicial mob action, occurred in the United States chiefly from the late 18th century through the 1960s. Lynchings took place most frequently against African-American men in the southern U.S. "

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/22/2015 2:08:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK... lets see the last lynching with racial overtones was 1964... and in that year 1 black was lynched...and 2 whites...that was 51 years ago... during that time the true heroes of equality were fighting their battle.

The average age of blacks in Ferguson is 31 years old... so the last lynching was 20 years before their birth... So... the facts stated have made them justifiable murderers in your opinion...or at least explains why many are killers today? Now take the number of blacks murdering blacks since 1964 and you will find this number far exceeds the grand total of blacks lynched in all of history many many many times over. Hell the number of blacks murdered by blacks in St. Louis alone is close to that number if not more since 1964.

Why would this history cause even one black to kill another?

Please listen to the link I posted again.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/22/2015 3:20:41 PM   
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Lynchings took place most frequently against African-American men in the southern U.S. "



Some things never change

Blacks were lynched for their crimes more than any other race then, just like a disproportionate number of crimes are committed by blacks today - and their incarceration rate is much higher than for any other group today, as well.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/22/2015 8:50:20 PM   
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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/22/2015 9:29:23 PM   
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Sanity, sometimes I think that our left leaning friends feel that there should be race based quotas on criminals.


I am not sure they really like us very much sometimes



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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/22/2015 9:31:42 PM   
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Sanity, sometimes I think that our left leaning friends feel that there should be race based quotas on criminals.


I am not sure they really like us very much sometimes



seems like

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 10:57:20 AM   
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Sanity, sometimes I think that our left leaning friends feel that there should be race based quotas on criminals.

No not that at all, but some seem to believe that when the cops can't solve a crime they shoot a black guy and blame it on him.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 11:08:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		What I see is a lot of rebellion against authority. Some here seem to think their personal freedoms are more important than social regulations. Otherwise they are babies that because THEY got a speeding ticket or a policeman was not polite enough to suit them then that must mean all police are corrupt, gun happy, jack booted Nazi wannabees.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 11:09:33 AM   
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What I see is a lot of rebellion against authority. Some here seem to think their personal freedoms are more important than social regulations. Otherwise they are babies that because THEY got a speeding ticket or a policeman was not polite enough to suit them then that must mean all police are corrupt, gun happy, jack booted Nazi wannabees.

Butch


Its not a coincidence, they are being trained

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 3:40:26 PM   
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OK... lets see the last lynching with racial overtones was 1964...


You are wrong young man...Michael Donald 1981

http://www.kknfa.org/Knowles_James_Tiger.htm


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and in that year 1 black was lynched...and 2 whites...that was 51 years ago... during that time the true heroes of equality were fighting their battle.

The average age of blacks in Ferguson is 31 years old... so the last lynching was 20 years before their birth...


You are 68 by your reasoning nothing before the crash has meaning to you...the Revolution,the Civil War,WW1??? Are you suggesting that blacks have no knowledge of history?




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So... the facts stated have made them justifiable murderers in your opinion...or at least explains why many are killers today?


Did the tax on tea justify the riots in Boston?








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Now take the number of blacks murdering blacks since 1964 and you will find this number far exceeds the grand total of blacks lynched in all of history many many many times over.


It would make more sense to measure the black on black murder against the white on white murder don't you think?





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Hell the number of blacks murdered by blacks in St. Louis alone is close to that number if not more since 1964.

Why would this history cause even one black to kill another?


You are absolutely right no black person would murder another black person because some black person had been lynched in the past. That is the very point I am making. Black on black murder is not relevant when discussing racially motivated violence.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 3:48:25 PM   
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Some things never change

Blacks were lynched for their crimes more than any other race then, just like a disproportionate number of crimes are committed by blacks today - and their incarceration rate is much higher than for any other group today, as well.


Why do you think that is?

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 3:50:25 PM   
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Some here seem to think their personal freedoms are more important than social regulations.

Butch


If those personal freedoms are my rights then of course they are more important than social regulations. Don't you think?

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 4:58:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		No... the laws of the land are more important than your personal freedoms... otherwise there is no civilization.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 5:29:31 PM   
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No... the laws of the land are more important than your personal freedoms... otherwise there is no civilization.

Butch


Young man, wouldn't it be more polite to comment on what I said instead of making things up to comment on?

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 6:33:59 PM   
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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 7:39:03 PM   
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Make yourself clear and I will answer appropriately.

Butch


This is what I said.

"If those personal freedoms are my rights then of course they are more important than social regulations. Don't you think?"



This is what you responded to:

" No... the laws of the land are more important than your personal freedoms... otherwise there is no civilization."

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 7:57:24 PM   
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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 8:20:26 PM   
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Makes no sense... the social regulations determine your rights.

Butch


Social regulations determined that blacks were to sit in the back of the bus.
Social regulations determined that blacks were not allowed to sit at a Woolworth lunch counter.
Social regulation determined that the colonist were required to pay taxes without representation.
No young man social regulations do not determine ones rights...the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution speak to that in a most eloquent manner.

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RE: State of emergency declared in Ferguson MO - 8/23/2015 8:39:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Those regulations determined your rights at that time...and they do today...and if they are against the majority thinking they will change... You do not have the freedom to live by your personal beliefs if they conflict with the laws of the land...don't believe me...try it.

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