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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 12:35:09 AM   
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I could quote article after article sayig that eating healthy and exercise is healthy.



You don't eat healthy. Based on your pics at least, your fat percentage is far lower than that of a healthy individual, just so you can show off your abs. Getting your fat percentage that low requires eating unhealthy. A person on a healthy balanced diet and exercise regime will never have washboards abs.

Your body doesn't want to have washboard abs. In fact, from its position it's dangers to have them, because it makes you more prone to starvation and illness.

You need to chronically maintain an unhealthy diet in order to look like that.

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 7:05:18 AM   
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I don't mean to come across as "Holier Than Thou" attitude.
However, health and fitness means everything to me. It's my preference. Please, no fatties.
If another Dom prefers women under the age 25, does that make him across "Holier Than Thou?"

For all those people who are making excuses for not being healthy, I wish you the best of luck. You're going to need it.

"Feel the burn. Love the burn. Live the burn." That's my motto!


People like what they like, and there is certainly nothing wrong with that.

How they express that is another matter. "No fatties" is a rather low brow and insulting way to say it.

Some women might not prefer unattractive men of poor character who overcompensate with weight training... but hopefully they find a kinder way to say it.

Did it ever occur that it might have been just you, and not the idea of healthy living, that they were rejecting??? Perhaps they were being kind.

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 8:48:25 AM   
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Beautiful ^^^. And made me laugh

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 10:39:45 AM   
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I could quote article after article sayig that eating healthy and exercise is healthy.



You don't eat healthy. Based on your pics at least, your fat percentage is far lower than that of a healthy individual, just so you can show off your abs. Getting your fat percentage that low requires eating unhealthy. A person on a healthy balanced diet and exercise regime will never have washboards abs.

Your body doesn't want to have washboard abs. In fact, from its position it's dangers to have them, because it makes you more prone to starvation and illness.

You need to chronically maintain an unhealthy diet in order to look like that.



This is from the L A Fitness blog:

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For your diet, your intake should be somewhere in the range of 1500 to 2000 calories for the next several months. I’d advise to break that up into 25% fat, 25% protein, and 50% carbohydrate. Taking the midpoint of the suggested calorie range, or 1750 calories, these percentages equate to 49 grams fat, 109 grams protein and 218 grams carbohydrate from wholesome food.


Considering that carbohydrates are the primary cause of Insulin Resistance and Type II Diabetes - how can that be healthy?

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 11:06:41 AM   
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Some women might not prefer unattractive men of poor character who overcompensate with weight training... but hopefully they find a kinder way to say it.

Did it ever occur that it might have been just you, and not the idea of healthy living, that they were rejecting??? Perhaps they were being kind.



Just to set the record straight, I'm a very highly attractive male and most women want to be with me. It's the 80-20% case. 80% like you and 20% won't. However, since I'm healthy and ripped it's more like 90% like me and 10% don't.

My problem isn't lack of female companionship, but lack of quality. As I mentioned most of the submissive women I meet are overweight and unhealthy. And when I try to enlighten them they shun me away. My question is, "Why don't they want to be healthy?"

And now I have my answer. Most everyone is encouraging women/men to eat unhealthy. "Fat is beautiful!" "I'm not a woman who has unhealthy weight, I'm a BBW!!" "Being slim and ripped is unhealthy!" "The motto at fitness gyms are unhealthy!"

"Be like me! A BBW! - Oh crap. Now I got diabetes. Well, it's not my fault, it's societies fault!"

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BBW = diabetes, or you will get it soon

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 11:16:35 AM   
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This is from the L A Fitness blog:

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For your diet, your intake should be somewhere in the range of 1500 to 2000 calories for the next several months. I’d advise to break that up into 25% fat, 25% protein, and 50% carbohydrate. Taking the midpoint of the suggested calorie range, or 1750 calories, these percentages equate to 49 grams fat, 109 grams protein and 218 grams carbohydrate from wholesome food.


Considering that carbohydrates are the primary cause of Insulin Resistance and Type II Diabetes - how can that be healthy?


And I can guarantee you that the OP doesn't follow that dietary advice either.
You cannot get washboard abs without routinely running on a deficiency... and running on a deficiency when you're at a healthy weight is structurally and fundamentally unhealthy.

You need fat storage to maintain normal energy exchange in your body. Most of what you eat gets at least temporarily stored in fat cells until needed. The issue when being overweight is that your fatcells then don't release that energy fast enough, but keep it stored instead, making you hungry again when you have fuel available.
His issue is that he keeps his fat storage low enough that he simple does not have fuel (or water storage for the matter) available, causing him to have to eat all day long to keep energy reserves up.

One bout of food poisoning where he's puking his gut out, and not able to eat and drink, and he's immediately in the danger zone and would require hospitalization to at least re-hydrate him (although his body will, in those circumstances, start rapidly cannibalizing all those nice muscles he worked so hard for).

He's maintaining a dangerous balance on the constant edge of starvation and dehydration, all just to show off his abs. Washboards abs aren't the sign of an athlete's body. Athletes have fat reserves on their abs to get them through their sport of choice. If you look at the guys who run the 4 deserts race (a 250km/155mile race in the harshest conditions imaginable) those guys are all in top shape (way better shape than the OP is in), and they all have fat storage. None of them have washboards abs, though you can tell that they have the muscle needed to have them.

Washboard abs are sign of a sorta kinda type of anorexia (as in, fat reserves in people with anorexia and washboard abs are often very similar) where, instead of being thin to the skeleton level, one aims to be thin to the muscular level and maintain muscle mass while getting ride of necessary fat and water deposits.
Both of those conditions cannot be maintained by anybody's idea of a healthy diet, be it the high carb crowd's idea of a healthy diet or ours.

He's fundamentally, structurally and chronically eating at a deficiency for what his body needs to maintain itself. I'll come bite him in the ass later on. If his diet is his gym's recommended 50% carb diet, he's setting himself up for diabetes as well... although I highly doubt that he's following that type of dietary advice. Getting washboard abs on 50% carbs isn't as easy as doing it on lower carb diets.



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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 11:47:28 AM   
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And when I try to enlighten them they shun me away. My question is, "Why don't they want to be healthy?"


Again...it's not because they want to be unhealthy. It's because you don't know how to get them healthy. You come at your views of healthy from the standpoint of someone that has never had to deal with what they're going through. They've tried your way, they know it fails...so yeah they shun you because you're just another thin person that that has never walked in their shoes thinking that they have the answers.

The reality is that you're not qualified to get them thin. You're qualified to show them how to use the equipment at the gym. The fact that you think being fat causes diabetes shows a lack of understanding of the human body.






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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 12:19:24 PM   
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Some women might not prefer unattractive men of poor character who overcompensate with weight training... but hopefully they find a kinder way to say it.

Did it ever occur that it might have been just you, and not the idea of healthy living, that they were rejecting??? Perhaps they were being kind.



Just to set the record straight, I'm a very highly attractive male and most women want to be with me. It's the 80-20% case. 80% like you and 20% won't. However, since I'm healthy and ripped it's more like 90% like me and 10% don't.

My problem isn't lack of female companionship, but lack of quality. As I mentioned most of the submissive women I meet are overweight and unhealthy. And when I try to enlighten them they shun me away. My question is, "Why don't they want to be healthy?"

And now I have my answer. Most everyone is encouraging women/men to eat unhealthy. "Fat is beautiful!" "I'm not a woman who has unhealthy weight, I'm a BBW!!" "Being slim and ripped is unhealthy!" "The motto at fitness gyms are unhealthy!"

"Be like me! A BBW! - Oh crap. Now I got diabetes. Well, it's not my fault, it's societies fault!"

FACT
BBW = diabetes, or you will get it soon


The above, translated to intelligence:

1. I am really insecure, thus I have to tell strangers I am highly attractive, because I cannot stand the thought that women might have their own preferences and not find me physically OR mentally attractive.

2. I keep saying I have trouble finding quality women because I am unable to discern what a tool I am.

3. By misinterpreting that people have been telling me it's not that my preferences are wrong, only my crass communication style and social interactions, I am still demonstrating what a tool I am.

4. My last line is not only childish and stupid, but incorrect.

Hope that helped.

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 12:42:26 PM   
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The above, translated to intelligence


From the psychological view: People who dedicate themselves to hard core body building routines tend to have self esteem issues. Having the muscles makes them feel better about themselves and it starts becoming the majority of their identity. Did you notice that the first thing he wants you to notice is the muscles? He named himself MuscleBound because he views that as what is important about him. (He lists body worship as one of his favorite activities)

He also uses his physicality as a shield. Discounting a potential mate because they drink soda, is indicative of this. Did you notice that he says he can't meet people of quality? According to him, if you're over weight you're not "of quality".

Mostly, what I'm getting from him is a lack of empathy. He either can't or won't allow himself to see a situation from someone else's perspective, which is why he preaches at the women he meets. It's also why he can't understand why they shun him.

I truly think he's just going to keep repeating the same cycle until he manages to gain some empathy which will allow him to connect on psychological/emotional level with the people around him.




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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 12:45:31 PM   
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Just to set the record straight, I'm a very highly attractive male and most women want to be with me. It's the 80-20% case. 80% like you and 20% won't. However, since I'm healthy and ripped it's more like 90% like me and 10% don't.

You're in such high demand that you're here crying that you can't find anyone who wants to be with you? Yeah, that makes all kinds of sense, MuscleHeadDom. I guess that early onset of male-pattern badness and Mr. Yuk personality trump your precious body fat percentage.

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 12:49:31 PM   
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Mostly, what I'm getting from him is a lack of empathy. He either can't or won't allow himself to see a situation from someone else's perspective, which is why he preaches at the women he meets. It's also why he can't understand why they shun him.



Or he's going to find a shallow bimbo who is just as judgmental and self-centered as him. They'll hook up, and sit around and laugh at how pathetic other people are, and how awesome they are. They're going to pose themselves as the "power couple" and deem everybody who doesn't like them to be "jealous".

Except that if he ever hits any sort of trouble -medical, financial, emotional, psychological- she'll bail on him in 3 seconds flat. Because she only likes him for the idea of him, and couldn't care less about him as a human being (she'll be far to self-absorbed for that).
Or the other way around for that matter.

It's a sad place to be, believing that the only people worth forming emotional connections with is those who can maintain superiority over others. Because people who believe that only those superior are worthy have to maintain their own superiority all the times, lest they become worthless (in their own eyes, as well as the eyes of those who supposedly love them).
Tall order, to have to meet standards of superiority you entire life... and very lonely...
As a Gorean I don't generally approve of this emotion, but in this sort of case I think an exception is in order: he deserves our pity.






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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 2:34:48 PM   
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Some women might not prefer unattractive men of poor character who overcompensate with weight training... but hopefully they find a kinder way to say it.

Did it ever occur that it might have been just you, and not the idea of healthy living, that they were rejecting??? Perhaps they were being kind.



Just to set the record straight, I'm a very highly attractive male and most women want to be with me.



From the neck down, I would agree with you... if you're in to that sort of thing.


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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 3:01:39 PM   
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Just to set the record straight, I'm a very highly attractive male and most women want to be with me. It's the 80-20% case. 80% like you and 20% won't. However, since I'm healthy and ripped it's more like 90% like me and 10% don't.

If that's the case, you'd have the pick of the litter!

What the fuck are you doing on a site like CS. Huh??

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My problem isn't lack of female companionship, but lack of quality.

Ah! You mean you want to find a very vain, shallow bimbo who follows your rather unhealthy lifestyle.

That figures. Vanity will be your ultimate downfall.

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As I mentioned most of the submissive women I meet are overweight and unhealthy. And when I try to enlighten them they shun me away. My question is, "Why don't they want to be healthy?"

As I've said, being overweight doesn't equate to unhealthy.
Your myopic lack of knowledge is astounding.

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And now I have my answer. Most everyone is encouraging women/men to eat unhealthy. "Fat is beautiful!" "I'm not a woman who has unhealthy weight, I'm a BBW!!" "Being slim and ripped is unhealthy!" "The motto at fitness gyms are unhealthy!"

And to a point, I would agree with them.

Just in recent years, how many 'extremely healthy' athletes, at the real peak of their fitness have dropped dead on a pitch? Far too many I can tell you!

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"Be like me! A BBW! - Oh crap. Now I got diabetes. Well, it's not my fault, it's societies fault!"

FACT
BBW = diabetes, or you will get it soon

Your 'facts' are a more than a little skewed.
Try doing some proper research into diabetes and other conditions before your verbal diatribe creates some pavement pizza.
My OH is far more overweight than I.
My first wife was even bigger.
Neither has diabetes but I have.
Get your 'facts' straight before you spout them to more learned people than you profess to be.

The problem with you not finding your 'quality' matches is because your idea of 'quality' is crap and they are running from your piss-poor attitude.
You don't enlighten them, you preach. That's not a nice trait to have. That's why they run from you.

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 3:22:22 PM   
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FR . . 5'5" 210lbs Olympic hopeful Amanda Bingson. Not all healthy women are size 2.
http://espn.go.com/olympics/story/_/page/bodyamandabingson/hammer-thrower-amanda-bingson-says-athletes-come-all-shapes-sizes-espn-magazine-body-issue

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 3:24:15 PM   
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As I said above.




Edit: evidently images are still an issue.

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 3:27:30 PM   
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I can't imagine 90% of the women who meet the op find him attractive. He's scrawny looking.

And if all of them were drooling for the chance to be with him, then he wouldn't be complaining that he can't find a partner. Those two statements are polar opposites.

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 3:59:44 PM   
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Just to set the record straight, I'm a very highly attractive male and most women want to be with me.




I always wonder about a man who has to tell women that he's attractive. Apparently the man lacks the confidence in himself to let the women make up their own minds.

Personally I find a great mind and intelligence attractive.

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 4:01:42 PM   
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Agreed. Attractiveness is in the eyes of the beholder, and I don't mean the eyes in the mirror.

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 4:07:39 PM   
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An anecdote I find amusing. My good friend's parents had a bricklaying company. He was carrying hod at 14 years old. For those of you who do not know, the hod carrier is the guy running bricks and mortar to the bricklayers. Every summer there were a few muscle bound gym fit guys who took the job as hod carrier. Without fail, every single one of them walked off the job by noon. All the "scrawny" guys would give them a ration of shit of course. So these gym fit guys might be able to bench press 400 lbs a couple of times but every last one of them was incapable of running 80-100 lbs of material, sometimes up 2-3 stories of scaffold, for more than a couple of hours. They were 100% worthless.

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RE: Healthy Submissives - 9/28/2015 4:26:24 PM   
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Agreed. Attractiveness is in the eyes of the beholder, and I don't mean the eyes in the mirror.


Oh come on... we all know that women and men are attracted to exactly the same things...

Everybody's primary source of attraction in the other sex is a hot body... that's why there's just as many male strip clubs and strippers as there are female strip clubs and strippers.

And why you see just as many hot women on the arm of an 'ugly' guy as you see hot guys on the arm of an 'ugly' chick...

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