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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 5:10:20 PM

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May those who died rest in peace.

May those who grieve find solace.

Amen

except the shooter, may he burn in Hell

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 5:12:07 PM

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Alright, once more, one question:

How many people did Timothy McVeigh kill with a gun in Oklahoma City?

Just asking.

Zero
But he owned one, that is close enough.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 5:20:57 PM

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Over and over and over and over and over
Like a monkey with a miniature cymbal
The joy of repetition really is in you

It's a good song, by Hot Chip

It hasn't added anything new to the discussion, but then who has?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 5:21:30 PM

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Alright, once more, one question:

How many people did Timothy McVeigh kill with a gun in Oklahoma City?

Just asking.

I'll never get this line of "thought."

It seems like saying we shouldn't address AIDS because people might get herpes instead.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 5:36:28 PM

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Alright, once more, one question:

How many people did Timothy McVeigh kill with a gun in Oklahoma City?

Just asking.

I'll never get this line of "thought."

It seems like saying we shouldn't address AIDS because people might get herpes instead.

It shouldn't be that hard to understand.
The focus on guns is a false flag.
People like Obama admit that the laws they proposed in response to Sandy Hook, for example, would have done nothing to stop it.
When people can't get guns, or want a bigger body count, they move to something else like bombs.
MCveih wanted a hugh body count so he used a bomb.
16th street Baptist Church killed three but they were trying to kill more so they used a bomb.
Charles Manson used people, they used knives.
The point is evil will find a way go after the evil, not peoples means to fight back.
Pressure cookers anyone?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 5:45:16 PM

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Obama had his anti gun speach ready and gave it before they even knew how many people were shot.
But don't worry, that isn't making political hay out of a tragedy.

Our nation's president always has a speech when serious tragedy occurs. And he's had to give this same speech how many times since he's been in office?

Nothing has changed in regards to the laws since the last time. We are absolutely no further along in preventing another senseless waste of human life.

I'm all for responsible gun ownership. I actually have quite a few myself, left to me by my father when he passed. But we need a comprehensive course of action here, with all parts of government coming together with viable solutions.

Pay for police officers to guard our schools.
Tighten up background checks.
Maybe require drug testing for gun permits? Not always an indicator, but wtf, right?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 5:46:27 PM

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except the shooter, may he burn in Hell

How very christian of you.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 5:51:50 PM

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Self defense free zones are magnets for nutcases like this

Bullshit.

He could go shoot and get himself killed anywhere.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 6:00:00 PM

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Obama had his anti gun speach ready and gave it before they even knew how many people were shot.
But don't worry, that isn't making political hay out of a tragedy.

Our nation's president always has a speech when serious tragedy occurs. And he's had to give this same speech how many times since he's been in office?

Nothing has changed in regards to the laws since the last time. We are absolutely no further along in preventing another senseless waste of human life.

I'm all for responsible gun ownership. I actually have quite a few myself, left to me by my father when he passed. But we need a comprehensive course of action here, with all parts of government coming together with viable solutions.

Pay for police officers to guard our schools.
Tighten up background checks.
Maybe require drug testing for gun permits? Not always an indicator, but wtf, right?

All three sound good. The drug testing could be problematic. If you make the buyer pay for it you could have a 5th amendment violation. If the locals put drug users that they pick up in the system it would help. Just like if Dr were required to notify the police when they see that someone is dangerous, like in Aurora, the shrink knew he was a menace and if that had been in the system he couldn't have legally bought his guns.
The first thing we need to do is somehow get people to put the required information in the system. The guy in Charleston was able to buy a gun because the locals didn't put his drug use in the system, that would have disqualified him. Politicians are more interested in passing new laws than they are in making the ones we have work.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 6:01:39 PM

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except the shooter, may he burn in Hell

How very christian of you.

Why, do you think we should cut him some slack, after all it seems that the only ones he killed were Christians, maybe we should put up a statue to him.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 6:07:17 PM

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except the shooter, may he burn in Hell

How very christian of you.

Why, do you think we should cut him some slack, after all it seems that the only ones he killed were Christians, maybe we should put up a statue to him.

What would jesus do?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 6:07:38 PM

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Chris Harper Mercer, 26, has been identified as the gunman who killed nine people on Thursday at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon, CBS News reports.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 6:30:27 PM

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Chris Harper Mercer, 26, has been identified as the gunman who killed nine people on Thursday at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon, CBS News reports.

The dead have dropped by 4, wish that could continue.
And the injured has dropped by over a dozen.
Don't get me wrong it was still terrible.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 6:37:55 PM

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except the shooter, may he burn in Hell

How very christian of you.

Why, do you think we should cut him some slack, after all it seems that the only ones he killed were Christians, maybe we should put up a statue to him.

What would jesus do?

I am sure that you would be as compasionate and forgiving if he had singled out blacks.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 6:48:42 PM

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I am an athiest so those issues do not affect me.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 6:53:24 PM

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I am an athiest so those issues do not affect me.

How evasive, your religion doesn't matter would you be as compasionate and forgiving of a man who picked blacks out of a group and killed them and you are a man who picke Christians out and killed them?
Why are you dogging the question.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 6:53:29 PM

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except the shooter, may he burn in Hell

How very christian of you.

Why, do you think we should cut him some slack, after all it seems that the only ones he killed were Christians, maybe we should put up a statue to him.

Jesus was a hard ass.

You're just looking for an argument. Something every two year old learns to do, I might add.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:14:13 PM

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Chris Harper Mercer, 26, has been identified as the gunman who killed nine people on Thursday at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon, CBS News reports.

Photos at Google image search.

K.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:28:47 PM

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Well ,more and more information seems to be dribbling in about this particular asshole

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/chris-harper-mercer-umpqua-community-college-ucc-roseburg-oregon-shooting-shooter-gunman-dead-eggman-4chan-name-id-identity-photos-twitter-social-media-facebook-youtube/

Seems he was,get this,a conservative republican....
I always knew it,guns don't kill people,neo-conservative ideologies and the propagation of lies like"trickle down economics"kill people....

In all seriousness thou,my heart goes out to the victims families right now.

How many school shootings have there been in the last year?

How many mass shootings?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:34:56 PM

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Well ,more and more information seems to be dribbling in about this particular asshole

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/chris-harper-mercer-umpqua-community-college-ucc-roseburg-oregon-shooting-shooter-gunman-dead-eggman-4chan-name-id-identity-photos-twitter-social-media-facebook-youtube/

Seems he was,get this,a conservative republican....
I always knew it,guns don't kill people,neo-conservative ideologies and the propagation of lies like"trickle down economics"kill people....

In all seriousness thou,my heart goes out to the victims families right now.

How many school shootings have there been in the last year?

How many mass shootings?

If he was a card carring member of the communist party the first reports would indicate he was a conservative Republican. Just in case enjoy it while you can.

Right, a conservative Republican targeting Christians.

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