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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:35:14 PM   
PyrotheClown


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Status: offline 		So of course the gun issue came up,but what about mental health treatment?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:39:05 PM   
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Well ,more and more information seems to be dribbling in about this particular asshole

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/chris-harper-mercer-umpqua-community-college-ucc-roseburg-oregon-shooting-shooter-gunman-dead-eggman-4chan-name-id-identity-photos-twitter-social-media-facebook-youtube/

Seems he was,get this,a conservative republican....
I always knew it,guns don't kill people,neo-conservative ideologies and the propagation of lies like"trickle down economics"kill people....

In all seriousness thou,my heart goes out to the victims families right now.

How many school shootings have there been in the last year?

How many mass shootings?





If he was a card carring member of the communist party the first reports would indicate he was a conservative Republican. Just in case enjoy it while you can.

Just poke'n fun at ya mang.
Couldn't help it when I read it thou

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:39:29 PM   
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So of course the gun issue came up,but what about mental health treatment?

That would do a lot more good.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:40:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown

Well ,more and more information seems to be dribbling in about this particular asshole

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/chris-harper-mercer-umpqua-community-college-ucc-roseburg-oregon-shooting-shooter-gunman-dead-eggman-4chan-name-id-identity-photos-twitter-social-media-facebook-youtube/

Seems he was,get this,a conservative republican....
I always knew it,guns don't kill people,neo-conservative ideologies and the propagation of lies like"trickle down economics"kill people....

In all seriousness thou,my heart goes out to the victims families right now.

How many school shootings have there been in the last year?

How many mass shootings?





If he was a card carring member of the communist party the first reports would indicate he was a conservative Republican. Just in case enjoy it while you can.

Just poke'n fun at ya mang.
Couldn't help it when I read it thou

Right utube is not what you would call a class A source.

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:44:57 PM   
PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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So of course the gun issue came up,but what about mental health treatment?

That would do a lot more good.

Yeah,but how do we go about it

Do we just look for lonly isolated men and throw hookers and weed at them?(totally for this one)
Do we monitor all social media,on the look out for potential malcontents?( gawd damn,they'd be knocking on half of our doors)
Do we make getting help so easy that folks are practically tripping over crisis hotline ads?

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:46:26 PM   
PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown

Well ,more and more information seems to be dribbling in about this particular asshole

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/chris-harper-mercer-umpqua-community-college-ucc-roseburg-oregon-shooting-shooter-gunman-dead-eggman-4chan-name-id-identity-photos-twitter-social-media-facebook-youtube/

Seems he was,get this,a conservative republican....
I always knew it,guns don't kill people,neo-conservative ideologies and the propagation of lies like"trickle down economics"kill people....

In all seriousness thou,my heart goes out to the victims families right now.

How many school shootings have there been in the last year?

How many mass shootings?





If he was a card carring member of the communist party the first reports would indicate he was a conservative Republican. Just in case enjoy it while you can.

Just poke'n fun at ya mang.
Couldn't help it when I read it thou

Right utube is not what you would call a class A source.

Can't you read,it wasn't youtube,it was his dating profile,and we all know that no one lies on those...

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:46:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Despite identifying himself as a conservative, on his MySpace page, Harper-Mercer posted numerous photos of the Irish Republican Army’s provisional incarnation. That group was openly fighting for a socialist Irish republic, which would be at odds with Harper-Mercer’s conservative leanings.

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/full.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=360

"The material world is a lie. For so long we have been taught that what’s important in life is to buy this and have that. To always have the latest fashion, biggest tv, fanciest car, nicest house, and blah,blah, blah. Well, the truth is we’ve become so attached to these things, our spiritual development has been halted. Just like they say in fight club “We become owned by the things we own”. Most people will spend hours standing in front of stores just to buy a new iphone. Those same people will complain about how they don’t have enough money but will always have money to spend on apple products. This attachment produces so much of the stress and worrying in the world today. I used to be like that, always concerned about what clothes I had, rather than whether or not I was happy. But not anymore. Since then I have learned the truth that such attachments are falsehoods and will only bring misery.This is my first blog post, there will be more to come."

**Yes, he sounds conservative.** (sarcasm)

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:49:00 PM   
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Despite identifying himself as a conservative, on his MySpace page, Harper-Mercer posted numerous photos of the Irish Republican Army’s provisional incarnation. That group was openly fighting for a socialist Irish republic, which would be at odds with Harper-Mercer’s conservative leanings.

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/full.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=360

"The material world is a lie. For so long we have been taught that what’s important in life is to buy this and have that. To always have the latest fashion, biggest tv, fanciest car, nicest house, and blah,blah, blah. Well, the truth is we’ve become so attached to these things, our spiritual development has been halted. Just like they say in fight club “We become owned by the things we own”. Most people will spend hours standing in front of stores just to buy a new iphone. Those same people will complain about how they don’t have enough money but will always have money to spend on apple products. This attachment produces so much of the stress and worrying in the world today. I used to be like that, always concerned about what clothes I had, rather than whether or not I was happy. But not anymore. Since then I have learned the truth that such attachments are falsehoods and will only bring misery.This is my first blog post, there will be more to come."

**Yes, he sounds conservative.** (sarcasm)

Holy shit....



People still have myspace pages?!

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:50:43 PM   
Kirata


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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown

Seems he was,get this,a conservative republican....
I always knew it,guns don't kill people,neo-conservative ideologies and the propagation of lies like"trickle down economics"kill people....

I'm not going to rip you for the guilt-by-association slime, because I'm sure somebody on the Right would have jumped on the same thing if he'd been a liberal Democrat. But seriously, the dude was 26 years old, still living with his parents, hated religion, and was into Left-Hand Path occultism.

Yep, definitely a typical conservative Republican!

K.



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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:53:17 PM   
PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown

Seems he was,get this,a conservative republican....
I always knew it,guns don't kill people,neo-conservative ideologies and the propagation of lies like"trickle down economics"kill people....

I'm not going to rip you for the guilt-by-association slime, because I'm sure somebody on the Right would have jumped on the same thing if he'd been a liberal Democrat. But seriously, the dude was 26 years old, still living with his parents, hated religion, and was into Left-Hand Path occultism.

Yep, definitely a typical conservative Republican!

K.



Maybe he identified more with their gun control polocies..

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:54:41 PM   
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"On an interesting note, I have noticed that so many people like him are all alone and unknown, yet when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows who they are. A man who was known by no one, is now known by everyone. His face splashed across every screen, his name across the lips of every person on the planet, all in the course of one day. Seems the more people you kill, the more you’re in the limelight," he wrote.

Food for thought there.

K.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:56:46 PM   
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How many school shootings have there been in the last year?

57 this year...so far.

But it's good to know we don't have a gun problem. We have too many kids, apparently.


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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:57:37 PM   
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"On an interesting note, I have noticed that so many people like him are all alone and unknown, yet when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows who they are. A man who was known by no one, is now known by everyone. His face splashed across every screen, his name across the lips of every person on the planet, all in the course of one day. Seems the more people you kill, the more you’re in the limelight," he wrote.

Food for thought there.

K.


Huh... That's not ominous at all....


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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 7:59:04 PM   
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How many school shootings have there been in the last year?

57 this year...so far.

But it's good to know we don't have a gun problem. We have too many kids, apparently.



Fuck,that's like 6 a month.


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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 8:03:21 PM   
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**Yes, he sounds conservative.** (sarcasm)

Conservatism doesn't recognize the folly of letting material covetousness distract us from the spiritual?


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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 8:15:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown

How many school shootings have there been in the last year?

57 this year...so far.

But it's good to know we don't have a gun problem. We have too many kids, apparently.



Fuck,that's like 6 a month.



It is also wrong
There has been a move of late by anti gun groups to redefine mass shootings.
This allows them to claim far more than the FBI or even Joe claims. He claims about 1 a month. If there were a semi-reputable source with 57 he would use it. There is one group that is trying to claim at least once a day.
They claim cases where no one is killed.
They even called the Garland Tx case a mass shooting when the only people killed were the two terrorist.
On top of this, as in Garland, Fort Hood and PA, they include acts of terrorism in the count, these clearly need to be counted differently as they have nothing to do with this kind of dispicable violence.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 8:17:20 PM   
PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown

How many school shootings have there been in the last year?

57 this year...so far.

But it's good to know we don't have a gun problem. We have too many kids, apparently.



Fuck,that's like 6 a month.



It is also wrong


I rounded,it's the begening of the 10th month(month is still young),if you round to 60
60 dived by 10 equals 6

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 8:17:50 PM   
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the cancer of present-day social economy."

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I'm pretty sure he was a conservative.

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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 8:51:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown
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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown

How many school shootings have there been in the last year?

57 this year...so far.

Fuck,that's like 6 a month.

It is also wrong

I'll tell you what I think is wrong. There are literally thousands of homicides in the United States that can be laid at the door of illegal possession and trafficking in firearms, and neither the Republicans nor the Democrats do fuck about it. The NRA, to their credit, have long argued for better enforcement and stiffer penalties to no avail. Even in New York, a virulently anti-gun state, the penalty for illegal possession not involving the commission of a violent crime is a Class A misdemeanor that carries a 1-year sentence. But people will get righteous about banning pistol grips, flash suppressors, and telescoping stocks. I mean seriously, what the fuck?

K.



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RE: Umpqua mass shooting - 10/1/2015 9:03:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just a drop in the bucket compared to gun homicides in any one year

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