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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 5:03:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littleclip

it used to be desirable to be what would now be a size 22 in Europe the physical size is of no importance to me its the fire within that im attracted to the fire in the eyes that I submit to and give control over to


We were all young once.
Youth ... is ... beauty!

I was 100% muscle. Think Greek statue. Barrel chest. Those little sixpacks on the side (real ones, not ones from pumping hormones).
28-inch waist (in my wresting days). I wasn't tall (the Italian genes determined my height - but I was a defensive tackle on my 7th grade football team, so, you can see that I matured early, shaving by 8th grade, for example).

All that is gone. I look more like this, nowadays ... Sigh.
Youth ... is ... fleeting!

The only thing that remains, from my youth, is the bulge!

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 5:11:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
I have seen guys with bigger moobs (man boobs) on the beaches of California and Florida, yet they weren't threatened with a ticket, and yeah, mine are a hell lot perkier but would be considered offensive


I must agree, the laws make no sense when something as beautiful as a woman's breast becomes "offensive".

To be clear, I am not saying I wouldn't love women to walk around naked all day, every day.
I love to see tits. Ass. Legs. Nipples. And anything else feminine.

In fact, I don't write this in my profile because I don't want to lead with my kink, but I would die for someone who just wanted me to worship every single feminine part of her body, from toe to head. I'd certainly enjoy every succulent inch immensely!

What I'm railing against is the hypocrisy of dressing like a prostitute all day, every day, and then being upset when men look.

It's the senseless logic that I decry.
Not the nudity.


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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 5:16:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crumpets

It's just that a woman who walks around naked, doesn't make a whole lotta' sense if she then claims folks are creeping her out by looking at her.

It's the senseless logic that I decry.
Not the nudity.



Somehow you're striking me as the type that used to make me feel uncomfortable breastfeeding in public. There I was, trying to feed my kids in peace, and there would always be some dude who felt the need to take that opportunity to stare at my tits in a sexualized manner.

Women not bothering covering up with clothing when the climate and legalities allow is aren't the same as her sending you a sexual invitation to ogle like she's a life size sexdoll.

There is a difference between seeing a woman and noticing that she happens to be naked in a setting where that is acceptable, and staring down at her tits while you're talking to her, as if she's nothing more than a sex toy there for your sexual gratification.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 5:16:51 PM   
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I don't know who you associate with or where you life, or what you think a prostitute dresses like (wouldn't that depend on what her clientel is?) but I don't tend to see a lot of women who dress like prostitutes, if you cruise around Hollywood Boulevard a lot, they're possibly not biological women, just saying....

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 5:24:16 PM   
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I just came back online and I had to correct a slight misapprehension the omniscient crumpets seems to be under.........prostitution is NOT a victimless crime in this country. It's legal in most, if not all states and territories

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 5:25:38 PM   
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weight means jack shit, muscles are heavier than fat. I managed to be a size 0 for about 2 months and was fucking miserable, and so was hubby, he told me he's fed up from getting bruises hugging me

This is very true.

When I took a YMCA SCUBA class in college, I sank in any pool I was ever in. Like a lead weight.

In fact, I wore zero lead weight on my belt while EVERYONE else in the 30-odd person class had at least one four pounder on their weight belt, sometimes two. Mine was empty, even with the tanks and horsecollar (yes, we used horse collars instead of BC vests in those college days).

When I took a few advanced-diving PADI classes, out in the Atlantic 60 miles off the New York Bight, everyone else doubled their weight, and all I needed, even with a quarter-inch set of farmer johns (with headcap, 1/2-inch booties, and doubling around the chest where the jacket overlapped the top).

I only used four pounds of lead in the OCEAN!
That's almost unheard of.

Muscle is heavier than fat, I agree.

PS: Now I can probably float hands-free in a pool, even without the wetsuit!

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 5:27:00 PM   
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prostitution is NOT a victimless crime in this country.


It seems that most of the prostitution rings they bust up here are young women and girls that are being forced to be prostitutes.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 5:36:20 PM   
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Most of the brothels here are legal and licensed. There are obviously those who run illegal ones, just as there are those who supply illegal drugs, booze, guns etc. They keep a very low profile and the cops hammer them if/when they find them. The only illegal prostitution basically is street walking and running an illegal brothel.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 5:59:06 PM   
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Crumpets, could you please explain to me what 'senseless logic' is ?.........surely, one cancels out the other ?

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 6:18:42 PM   
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I sent you naked pics to prove it.

Eat your hearts out, boys. She really did. If I had a bod like that with my attitude, I'd take over the world.

OK, so I saw some sh^t on this thread about fear. I'm perfectly willing to tell you what some Dominants won't. Fear's not a sin. Neither is grief. Nor any of the other range of human emotions.

While it is a personal opinion, I really don't trust D-types who say they never *feel* anything. I compare them to tops who say they have never missed a strike. (Never trust folks like that, btw.) I've left blisters from fire play, bruises in places that I haven't intended, tied people up where they still had rope marks the next morning...

Doesn't mean I've never been afraid.


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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 7:00:34 PM   
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in Nevada there are legal brothels where the ones that chose to have sex for cash is ok and yes there are male workers now. but there are still those forced to have sex in rings and such not as much as in other states but still here.
and for the record the bare chest of either sex is not against the law to show as they are not genitals and both have breast tissue mens are just suppressed by testosterone
yes Dominants do have off strikes and miscalculations I have had some of them during play I was not afraid as I trusted the one I submitted to. I have had to use cover up as im in the army
I do agree that if someone says never missed never had a accident be wary all those I trust have first aid kits and know what to do when it does go off

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/5/2015 9:05:04 PM   
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Doesn't mean I've never been afraid.


“Don't be afraid of being scared. To be afraid is a sign of common sense. Only complete idiots are not afraid of anything.”

― Carlos Ruiz Zafón, The Angel's Game

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/6/2015 6:43:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
Somehow you're striking me as the type that used to make me feel uncomfortable breastfeeding in public.

I'm Italian. Kids and moms are sacrosanct.
I happen to believe that a woman breastfeeding is about as sexual as your own mom or your own kids (or a nun).
That is. It's a totally non-sexual event.

The only time I've ever looked with any curiosity whatsoever at a woman breastfeeding is when they hide it so strangely that you think they're oddly hiding "something" (is it a bomb?) under a blanket - which (initially) looks so strange and out of place when you're just walking down the street that the unexpected event catches your eye that something is out of place. Then, after doing a doubletake, you figure out what she's doing. She's not fusing a bomb - she's just hiding under a blanket while feeding her baby.

Then you move on.
ANYTHING whatsoever having to do with moms and babies (or nuns) is decidedly not sexual in the least.
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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
There I was, trying to feed my kids in peace, and there would always be some dude who felt the need to take that opportunity to stare at my tits in a sexualized manner.

See above.
There is absolutely nothing sexual whatsoever about breastfeeding.
Even the moms look bored, sitting there, doing nothing except having their reservoirs emptied.


It's like peeing. Or pooping.
It's merely a body event.

If I saw a woman peeing in the street, my biological instant would look, simply because we're programmed to look at the out-of-the-ordinary ... but hen, I'd be disgusted the moment I realized what was going on, and look away as quickly as I could.

Same thing with breastfeeding (sans the disgust).
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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
Women not bothering covering up with clothing when the climate and legalities allow is aren't the same as her sending you a sexual invitation to ogle like she's a life size sexdoll.

You miss what I am explaining.
I love women as naked as they want to get.

If a woman bends over in front of me on the liquor store, I'm gonna look, at least momentarily.
I can't help NOT look at least the biologically-programmed second.

[BTW, that's WHY women do what they do ... they're attention whores ... it's "fun" to them to get attention ... however that's not the point of this example; the point of this example is that we men are assaulted by women's underwear and private parts day in and day out by moments expertly scripted and directed by the women expressly so that we'd LOOK at them - yet - when we do - they decry that as "creepy"; it's the duplicity of those women who do that which I am trying to outline here.]

I just decry that women then complain when I look that biologically programmed second.

Women flash their underware and garter area constantly at us, when we're not even thinking about them.

And the biologically-programmed second always kicks in, because even the most "innocent" (and I must put that in quotes, because the women are NEVER innocent; only babies and kids do it innocently) moments, always garner at least the desired one-second biologically-programmed level of interest.


Women walk around giving flashes of their pussy area and ass and tits every day all day, in effect, assaulting us with their private parts.
[Women assault us constantly with their private parts on purpose, of course - they know exactly what they're wearing and why even though most "pretend" to be innocent - but their intent isn't the point of this explanation; the duplicity of their professed shock that "creepy" men are looking is the point here.]

I contrast that with men, who don't walk around with their balls hanging out of their shorts in public like women habitually do (with their breasts and ass) all day every day.

So, you need to get the point.
Women are openly flaunting their boobs and buns every single day all over the place from the day they reach high school until they decide that nobody wants to look anymore.

We men are assaulted by this, day in and day out.
We can't even go to a baseball game without women constantly showing us their panties.


I don't show THEM my panties. How come I can do that, and they can't?

I didn't ASK these women to show me their tits in the parking lot of the grocery store (I actually went there for groceries).

As I went up the steps outside the mall, I didn't request a potential commando peek of some random lady in front of me.

When I'm walking along the sidewalk, I didn't ask for a camel-toe visual from too-tight pants.


So, you must realize, we're absolutely ASSAULTED by tits and ass, every day.
Now, like a kitten following a laser light - we are biologically programmed to react.
We look.

We can't help the "initial" look that first catches our eye.
But after that biologically-programmed notice, we turn our brain on (within a second).

Culture teaches us not to stare, and to hide the look, and to look away, etc., but, just as you can't jump when someone suddenly smacks you on the shoulders from behind, you can't help your initial programmed biological reaction.

That you assume I stare again shows your immense fear of men.
You just assume I stare.

While I'd love for women to be naked all day, the fact is that women on the street only tease. They don't deliver. They never deliver.
We know this, so it's a waste of our valuable time to even look. Like the cat and the ball of string, we can't help but NOTICE (that's why they tease us day in and day out in the first place).

But, we all know that we're not gonna bed every girl on the street that shows us her tits and ass.

That means we're absolutely ASSAULTED BY TEASES every moment of the day while walking around in public.
And then, if we bother to react for more than the biologically-programmed moment - "we" (the innocent ones!) get called "creepy"
!


quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
There is a difference between seeing a woman and noticing that she happens to be naked in a setting where that is acceptable, and staring down at her tits while you're talking to her, as if she's nothing more than a sex toy there for your sexual gratification.


Duh.

We men don't assault you daily with our underwear, underthings, tits, and ass, so you have no idea what it's like.
Those women who assault us with their tits and ass in every waking moment they have in public by acting as "sluts on display", are merely saying that they are exactly what you decry.

We're the victims.

In summary:
  • Breastfeeding in public is not a sexual event (although the machinations women necessarily go through catch us momentarily as 'something's odd there')
  • Men somehow (against all odds?) manage to keep their underwear and private parts hidden from casual view, yet women seem absolutely incapable of keeping their private parts out of public view
  • Only babies and kids show their underwear in public innocently (nobody is that inept that they can't keep their underwear or cameltoes out of view)
  • Men are biologically programmed to notice women's private things, and, like a kitten seeing a laser, are not in control of that first biologically programmed second (only after that, does conscious culture & upbringing take hold)
  • Women (very well) know exactly what they're doing, and why they're doing it by assaulting us day in and day out with their private parts
  • Simply stated, they're attention whores; it's "fun" for them to be noticed (i.e., they make themselves more "interesting" by constantly flashing their private parts in public)
  • Yet, they don't even realize how duplicitous they are when they decry that "creepy" men take notice of their private parts day in and day out


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    RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/6/2015 7:29:07 AM   
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    Whatever you say, I honestly couldn't give a shit anymore. You're grasping and grasping, that "I'm entitled to stare because it's there you should cover up if you don't like it and if you don't agree with me you're just scared" BS is a bit tired.

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    RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/6/2015 8:42:07 AM   
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    We're the victims.

    Well, that kind of sums things up.

    ETA: I do wish they'd fix the image-upload function.

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    RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/6/2015 9:27:16 AM   
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    ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
    I don't know who you associate with or where you life, or what you think a prostitute dresses like (wouldn't that depend on what her clientel is?) but I don't tend to see a lot of women who dress like prostitutes, if you cruise around Hollywood Boulevard a lot, they're possibly not biological women, just saying....


    I'm glad you're tired of seeing the pictures because the point of showing the pictures is to show you women how we men are practically assaulted, day in and day out, by women who can't seem to NOT show us their privates and underthings - just like prostitutes.

    The only difference being that the prostitutes are at least honest about why.

    You'll never understand what we see, day in and day out (you're not actually capable of understanding it because it's ingrained into your biological psyche). You feel that YOU are the victim. Yet, you don't realize how you assault us day in and day out, like street walkers casing the cars in the street!


    Men don't dress with their boobs hanging out, nor with pants so tight that their cameltoe shows.

    When we riding a bike around town, our underweare stays hidden.


    For some strange reason, men can keep their lacy undies hidden from casual view, while many women are wholly incapable of the preventing simplest of wardrobe malfunctions, day after day after day after day.


    While we're practically assaulted by women's undies, I'm not lamenting the fact that women apparently know absolutely nothing about the physics of clothes, such that they show us (always by accident, of course) their undies day in and day out, everywhere we go.

    No. I'm explaining that women are being disingenuous when they say it's "creepy" that a guys looks at them when they do that!

    Women seem to find every single opportunity they can to "flash" us their undies, no matter whether we're walking by as they sit on a bench:


    Or at a party...


    Or at a formal wedding reception.


    Women are seemingly incapable of NOT flashing us their undies, even in the simple act of just getting out of a car:


    Heck, you can't even go to a sports event, without being glaringly assaulted by the rather talented cheerleaders spreading their legs wider than any prostitute even could!

    Having tried to show you that women purposefully bare their underwear day in and day out (while men seem to be able to control their clothes far better), you must understand that men seem to be able to control their underwear, and, men don't call women "creeps" for looking at them.

    Bear in mind, it's not the fact that women dress like prostitutes that I decry; it's that they then call men creeps for finding them interesting, when they went through a whole lot of trouble just so that they could have the chance of (constantly and repeatedly) accidentally showing us their panties, every chance they get.

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    RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/6/2015 9:43:36 AM   
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    ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
    It seems that most of the prostitution rings they bust up here are young women and girls that are being forced to be prostitutes.

    I know that the FEAR in you makes you think that, just as the intense FEAR that people have of crime makes them want to outlaw guns, and just as the supremely illogical fear of CELLPHONES makes them want to, out of sheer fear, outlaw hands on anything but steering wheels in cars.

    But c'mon. Have you ever BEEN to a prostitute?
    They're just women.
    Just like you.

    They want money. That's it.
    They're not doing it because they're forced to.

    Just as I'm sure there's some kid in some factory "forced" to make shoes for a dollar an hour, I'm just as realistic to know that an infinitesimally small number of women are, indeed, literally "forced" into prostitution (Japanese war crimes notwithstanding).

    However, there are a HUGE number of prostitutes, so, the percentage of those forced is so small that you're never likely to run into one, even if you visited one every day all day for the rest of your life.

    You're working wholly off of the victim syndrome of fear.

    Just as almost all prostitutes aren't "forced" into the world's oldest professional, women aren't "forced" to show the world their underwear day in and day out.

    Yet, they love to then claim "victim" status when a guy sits purposefully behind them, um, I mean "stalks them" at the bleachers of the home-town parade when they dress like this:

    Some women make absolutely no (logical) sense when it comes to their fears of mice, creeps, and stalkers.

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    RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/6/2015 9:46:43 AM   
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    Assault: In common law, assault is harmful or offensive contact with a person. An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm.


    How exactly are women causing you bodily harm by showing you their panties?

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    RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/6/2015 9:57:17 AM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874
    I just came back online and I had to correct a slight misapprehension the omniscient crumpets seems to be under.........prostitution is NOT a victimless crime in this country. It's legal in most, if not all states and territories


    While the term "victimless crime" means whatever we want it to mean, there are two different "issues" in the above statement that have nothing to do with each other per se:
    1. Is there a "victim" in the act of consummating a pay-for-sex event, and,
    2. Is prostitution legal.

    I'll leave the first item alone, as it's just too involved a topic for a light discussion here to develop.
    The second items is easier to clarify.

    First off, paying someone for sex is legal in the US (and tested in California law) as long as you're paying them for something ELSE other than "just" sex (e.g., you're paying her for a movie that just happens to involve you having sex with her, or you're paying her to be an escort who just happens to love you so much that she fucks you silly, etc.).

    Laws and their interpretation vary, but, in general, if you pay them ONLY for sex, then that is illegal, per se, in most states (and even in Nevada, unless approved by certain jurisdictions who have fewer than so many people, etc.).

    The DEFINITION of sex (as with the definition of pornography - "I know it when I see it") is elusive when it only involves looking at, rubbing, or just touching body parts - but we could assume, for now, that penetration is always considered "sex".

    As for legal prostitution, I have traveled the word. So I am very cognizant of where it's legal, and where it's not (not that it doesn't exist everywhere anyway).

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    RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/6/2015 10:02:17 AM   
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    ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
    How exactly are women causing you bodily harm by showing you their panties?

    Quick answer ...

    Technically (and legally), you're confused about the meaning of "assault".
    If someone actually "causes" bodily harm, it's never assault (it's "battery").
    Big difference.
    One is a looming threat, while the other is actual harm.

    Women don't cause me any harm by shoving their panties day in and day out in my face.
    They cause harm when they have me unfairly arrested for being a "creepy stalker".

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