crumpets
Posts: 1614
Joined: 11/5/2014
From: South Bay (SF & Silicon Valley)
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I do notice that you didn't answer two of my questions from my last contribution to this thread.
I believe you will find them on page five.
On what I see as page five, there are two posts from you, namely
post #89, and,
post #98.
There were a few topics that didn't get complete coverage in response, so, offhand, I'm actually not sure which you're specifically referring to.
quote:
ORIGINAL: LadyPact
With this in mind, I'm going to point out some additional items...
...there is a difference between tracking your ... girlfriend ...and making sure your teenager is really studying at the library...
Using that verb "tracking", I would definitely agree with you.
Parents are charged with the responsibility of watching over their kids, and, specifically, when kids go bad, it can often be attributed to parents reneging on their parental observation duties.
The word "tracking" has a bad connotation, and perhaps rightly so; however, glancing at the mail headers and simply knowing which ones come from work and which come from home are NOT at all even close to fitting the verb "tracking". While we all interpret words as we wish, I would leave the category of "tracking" to something more like ACTIVE surveillance, than simply glancing at email headers which are in plain sight in every single email.
quote:
ORIGINAL: LadyPact
In my personal opinion, you have tried to deflect the difference between 'reading profiles' and digging for information via other means.
As usual, I think you have arrived at the crux of the discord here, in this thread.
While I was shocked that merely reading AAkasha's profile nearly got me accused of being a stalker, for the most part, I think there is a special sensitivity on the part of the female posters here to what "they" consider stalking.
It turns out that, most likely, we are all actually in agreement, once we realize we are using different definitions of some of the common words flung about here, such as the difference between "digging" versus "reading".
Following up on your comment, I think there are THREE basic levels that we are confusing here:
1. Merely reading a profile (and leaving it at that);
2. Almost passively running (what I consider to be an obligatory) twenty-second search for more information (such as reading email headers or popping a phone number or email into Spokeo);
3. Actively "digging" for personal information (such as surveillance or "tracking").
I believe you are correct that the disconnect here is in where we draw the lines delineating the boundaries separating these three levels of interest shown toward the profile.
quote:
ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Where's the line for you, OP?
I respond here, as I read, so, the fact that I outlined the same question means we are in agreement that the crux of the issue is where people draw the boundary lines.
I don't know that I've ever thought about this all that deeply (until now), but, since you asked, I think the boundary could be as follows (but I'm open to discussion about moving those boundaries as others deem appropriate):
1. Passively reading a profile or email header
2. Running a freely available Spokeo/Yelp/Google/etc. search
3. Actively tracking the person's activities
Thinking about answering your question faithfully, I think the boundary line between [2] and [3] above involves getting out of your chair or purchasing and running a software search that isn't available to everyone on earth for free without installing anything.
It's harder to figure out what YOU think the boundary line is between [1] and [2] because, it seems clear, people here think that just looking at the email headers borders on creepy stalking (i.e., [3]), while it's just as clear that I think looking at email headers is in the domain of passive interest (e.g., [1]).
To me, the boundaries are clear (e.g., getting out of your chair, or paying for software), while, to others, the boundaries seem to be non existent.
It seems that most of the respondents here only have two levels of interest:
1. Passively reading only the part of the email or profile that is visible to non-technical people, and,
2. Creepy stalking (which is anything other than passively reading the part of the email or profile that is visible to non-technical folks).
Hence the discord.
|
RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 
Profile
RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 
New Messages
No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages
Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages
Locked w/o New Messages
Post New Thread