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What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE on j... - 10/29/2015 2:07:53 PM

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What do people do that they can so extremely quickly POUNCE on juicy profiles?

As just a quick experiment contrasting merely the rate of unsolicited mails sent to a decent male & female profile on Collarspace, I created two profiles earlier this week, one male, and one female, both the same age, and the text of both profiles exactly the same (switching only gender).

Both profiles were deleted in just about an hour hour (the results were so astoundingly different, I didn't need to run the experiment any further).

As you'd (and I'd) expect, the male received zero mails.
I'm not sure what you'd expect, but, by the time the hour was up, the female was on the second page of mails, and they were still coming in fast when I killed the profile.

What surprised me was the huge volume (about a half page or more) of incoming mails that were there even before I completed filling out the profile. Basically, mails were already coming in without a single word written "in" the profile!

So, I ask some general questions to flesh out what is going on (some of which I know, but not all).
Q2: Is it simply that people habitually click the "new user" button a thousand times a day to send emails to each new user that quickly?
Q2: Or, do these respondents have automated programs that constantly notice ANY female posting of any sort?

And, to those females out there:
Q3: How can you possibly adequately handle the absolutely astounding volume of mails without spending 24/7 dealing with them?

RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 2:22:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: crumpets

Q2: Is it simply that people habitually click the "new user" button a thousand times a day to send emails to each new user that quickly?

Actually, you can set the button to new users and each time the page refreshes it updates the list.

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Q2: Or, do these respondents have automated programs that constantly notice ANY female posting of any sort?

As I said, they most likely have the button clicked.

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Q3: How can you possibly adequately handle the absolutely astounding volume of mails without spending 24/7 dealing with them?

A friend that was briefly on here, set her filters so anyone that didn't meet her criteria went to her bulk folders. It cut down on the crap in her in box by quite a bit.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 2:43:11 PM

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Dude, we have to come to an understanding. Stop creating new profiles. It's scummy. I and the other women around here, are more than willing to help with information.

Dumbest thing this site ever did was enable that stupid "newest user" list. "New Local Users" follow the same distance range as a person's search criteria, so if that is anywhere, all of the new profiles show up. Might as well just paint a target on new member's back.

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Q3: How can you possibly adequately handle the absolutely astounding volume of mails without spending 24/7 dealing with them?

Oh, Dude, you should have been here before the spam filter. When I lived in GA and went to a three day con without the laptop? I'd spend half of the day home sorting through the sh^t. MP would get three and I'd get three hundred. Maybe half a dozen were from people we'd actually met.

Now, I can't tell you much about how this works (not a computer guru) but when we moved from GA to CA, a lot of those random emails were helpful. Advice on good restaurants in the area, suggestions of where to play golf, local tourist attractions, and that kind of thing. As soon as I changed the zip code and profile location, I got a higher quality of stuff. MP got zilch.

Moving to AK got my mailbox rather quiet. I liked it. Sure, I still deal with the random asshole from time to time but it's not dozens a day.

I don't "keep up" anymore. If I know a screen name from Cm several years, I will answer email. If not, I click the box and delete. Simple, really.

Does that answer your question?

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 2:44:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: crumpets

I created two profiles earlier this week, one male, and one female, both the same age, and the text of both profiles exactly the same (switching only gender).

Don't you have enough 'test' profiles yet?

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 4:20:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Actually, you can set the button to new users and each time the page refreshes it updates the list.

Thank you for that suggestion.
I tested it out, and I see the new users button essentially does a search that is set the same way (apparently) as your filters are.
My filters are set for 25 miles (at the most), so, I hadn't realized that these "pouncers" must have their search filters set for a billion mile radius since I got queries from the likes of Wauwatosa, Wisconsin and Kerrville, Texas and Saudi Arabia, within seconds of opening the profile.

What are these people thinking?
Who wants to have a sexual relationships with people from all over the world?
Whose search is set wider than about 25 miles anyway?

Not one of the respondents was within 100 miles of where the profile was based (I chose a zip code in NYC, but even that didn't matter).
So these pouncers apparently don't even LOOK at the distance, even if it's THOUSANDS of miles away.

Wow. They're all shooting in the dark at ANYTHING female!

But, even so, they still have to click to read the profiles.

For me to get a mail every minute or two for an hour straight must mean that a lot of people just pounce on that button the minute a new profile shows up.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 4:24:34 PM

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Newsflash, they don't read the profiles, a new female pops up and they send a message, a few years I put up one profile without a picture or text just saying female, and let a guy deal with all the emails, he then understood and he said he never ever wants to see a cock shot. He thought I was joking when I mentioned that we get flooded with BS mails

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 4:29:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: crumpets

So these pouncers apparently don't even LOOK at the distance, even if it's THOUSANDS of miles away.

They either don't look or don't care about anything in a female profile. Age, distance, kinks, relationship status or orientation.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 4:40:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I and the other women around here, are more than willing to help with information.

The question I wanted to answer was the ratio of spontaneous contacts, from two exact profiles, one male and one female, over a short period of time. I don't know if you can answer that question, unless you had two exact same profiles; but I'd certainly be very glad to have your insight.

I was going to try the same experiment with gay and lesbian exact profiles; and with bisexual and heterosexual couples; and lastly with middle-aged men and women.

I was curious what the differences would be.
If you already have the information, then you can let me know - as I take data in by a lot of methods.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Dumbest thing this site ever did was enable that stupid "newest user" list. "New Local Users" follow the same distance range as a person's search criteria, so if that is anywhere, all of the new profiles show up. Might as well just paint a target on new member's back.

I agree with you that the pouncers were sending the profile messages from the middle of nowhere to a thousand miles away from the middle of nowhere, even though the profile was in the middle of NYC.

There's no way any human can adequately handle even the volume of mail that arose from the moment the profile was created to the time that I removed it. A bulk mail filter would be a necessity, as would a filter for deleting any messages from further than about 25 miles away.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Oh, Dude, you should have been here before the spam filter.

I have been here a long time (under various guises) but I don't get the volume of mail that you get!
Here, for example, is my mail, which, if I do a rough average, is one or two mails a day.

One or two mails a day is manageable, especially since there are fewer than a half dozen people I converse with in a given month (or so).

Of course, the pouncers leave "me" alone!
I couldn't possibly handle my mail if I got the rate that the test profile just received.
I don't know how any of you can, without draconian filtering.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
MP would get three and I'd get three hundred.

That's about the ratio I'm seeing. It's at least 100 to 1, male to female.
We'll see what the couples and homosexual profiles get in the first hour as compared to the middle-aged profiles.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
a lot of those random emails were helpful.

I understand. I glanced at the pictures that folks sent, for example, and one guy took the profile picture and turned it into a beautifully photoshopped creation.
He offered to photoshop anything I wanted.
So, I guess, having been pounced upon, I could take advantage of all the "free stuff" offered - but that wasn't my goal.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Moving to AK got my mailbox rather quiet.

I made this profile NYC, which is decidedly not quiet.
However, I don't think even one person was from NY, let alone NYC, after the alotted hour was up.
So, I don't know if the location matters (I mean, guys from India were sending me horrible pictures with the assumption, somehow, that the girl would be interested).
(What are they thinking?)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Does that answer your question?

Yes. You really can't keep up.
Especially from the pouncers.
Of course, I'd expect (from past experience) that the pouncers will lesson appreciably with time (exponentially perhaps?), but, I had not run an exact duplicate profile before, with the only change being the sex of the profileee. I need to run three more to complete the experiment though.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 4:42:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: crumpets
Thank you for that suggestion.
I tested it out, and I see the new users button essentially does a search that is set the same way (apparently) as your filters are.
My filters are set for 25 miles (at the most), so, I hadn't realized that these "pouncers" must have their search filters set for a billion mile radius since I got queries from the likes of Wauwatosa, Wisconsin and Kerrville, Texas and Saudi Arabia, within seconds of opening the profile.

What are these people thinking?
Who wants to have a sexual relationships with people from all over the world?
Whose search is set wider than about 25 miles anyway?

Not one of the respondents was within 100 miles of where the profile was based (I chose a zip code in NYC, but even that didn't matter).
So these pouncers apparently don't even LOOK at the distance, even if it's THOUSANDS of miles away.

Wow. They're all shooting in the dark at ANYTHING female!

But, even so, they still have to click to read the profiles.

For me to get a mail every minute or two for an hour straight must mean that a lot of people just pounce on that button the minute a new profile shows up.

I used to live in Delta Junction, Alaska. (No kidding. Look the place up.) I'd still get stuff from all over the world.

There are several ways to contact people on this site. Without bothering to "read" anything.

Watch.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 4:47:26 PM

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I live in Europe, I spend a fair bit of time in the US but don't put that on my profile, amazing how many emails I get from people in various places of the world wanting to "serve me" and offering to come over to clean my house or my shoes...

I guess most of them must be really good at swimming....

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 4:58:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: crumpets

Who wants to have a sexual relationships with people from all over the world?

I moved to the US from Belgium for a relationship with a couple found on this site.
Awareness recently moved to NH from Australia, likewise for a relationship found on this site.

If you're looking for something specific and rare, global searches make sense.

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ORIGINAL: crumpets

Whose search is set wider than about 25 miles anyway?

25 miles for us only encompasses our local town of about 10.000 people.

We're looking nation wide, though with a preference for a 500 mile range because of how much easier meeting/dating goes when the distance stays that small.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 5:02:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
Don't you have enough 'test' profiles yet?

When I know everything, then I can stop! :)

Actually, one test I want to design is to see if ANYONE actually BELIEVES the fake banner ad profile that is to the top right of EVERY SINGLE time we look at our mail.
So, let me ask YOU a question, since I always come in using a proxy (and not my real IP address).

QUESTION FOR YOU:
When you see that banner ad at top right, does it say YOUR TOWN for the location of the fake profile?

For me, since I use a proxy, it doesn't say the town; but does it say the town for you?

Given this banner ad is always fake, I have two questions for others that I can't run an experiment on myself:
1. Does the banner ad always say YOUR TOWN (or does it say "proxy" for you, like it does for me)?
2. Why would anyone ever click on those fake ads? (Do they actually BELIEVE they are real?)

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 5:06:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
There are several ways to contact people on this site. Without bothering to "read" anything.
Watch.

Nicely done.
I responded.
No need to reply. I understand and agree.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 5:09:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
amazing how many emails I get from people in various places of the world wanting to "serve me" and offering to come over to clean my house or my shoes...

That does amaze me how all the pouncers (every single one, at least in the very short period the profile was alive) were from "far away".
Obviously, they just pounce. Period.

But, can it possibly work for them?
It seems like an awful lot of work for a pitiful chance of gain.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 5:13:42 PM

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But, can it possibly work for them?

If they get slapped 10 times and get to see a set of tits 1 time.........

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 5:16:06 PM

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We're looking nation wide, though with a preference for a 500 mile range because of how much easier meeting/dating goes when the distance stays that small.

Wow. Just wow.
I don't think a single woman would be interested in me from 100 miles away, let alone 500 or the entire world.

Let me look at your profile again ... oh ... I see. Now I remember. Yes. You're stunningly gorgeous.
And you're intelligent, as can be seen by your proper use of personal pronouns!
Your profile text gets right to the point, and your journal is short and sweet (and yes, I remember that funny DarthVader youtube video from the last time I read your journal).
I admire your profile greatly as you live for intellectual discourse.

So, in your case, I can see how you might find a submissive or switch woman willing to travel hundreds to thousands of miles to meet you.
I guess, from this standpoint, the guys who pounced on my female profile must also be willing to do the same.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 5:23:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: crumpets

So, in your case, I can see how you might find a submissive or switch woman willing to travel hundreds to thousands of miles to meet you.
I guess, from this standpoint, the guys who pounced on my female profile must also be willing to do the same.

I've had male submissives travel from as far as Washington to meet me. In fact, I recently met a bunch of kinkster off this site, though not for a relationship (although I'm considering play with one of them) in Maryland.

Our number one prospect for a potential live in situation at the moment is in North Carolina and has teenage daughter. Distance and logistics are rather irrelevant when it comes to finding the right person, instead of just "any" person.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 5:23:20 PM

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If they get slapped 10 times and get to see a set of tits 1 time.........

I understand.
They still have to pounce to get me even before the profile is finished, but I guess they pounce on EVERYONE who is new, hoping to win a score before some other guys gets the shy innocent noob babe first.

Funny you mention that one set of tits though, as the one guy who photoshopped "me" in all sorts of places, also "bared my tits" so to speak, and gave me large ones, professionally done.

So, tongue in cheek, the pouncers would stand a better chance (i.e., one in one) by photshopping "me" naked with my boobs out, than sending me emails (ten to one) hoping, being a noob and all, that I'd fall in love with them from a thousand miles away.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 5:26:24 PM

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The question I wanted to answer was the ratio of spontaneous contacts, from two exact profiles, one male and one female, over a short period of time. I don't know if you can answer that question, unless you had two exact same profiles; but I'd certainly be very glad to have your insight.

MP and I have never had the exact profile. I will tell you that for my first six months or so on the site, I had profile text that said, "I'll fill this out later." That was it. The profile pic that I posted was the one of me in blue.

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I was going to try the same experiment with gay and lesbian exact profiles; and with bisexual and heterosexual couples; and lastly with middle-aged men and women.

No. Just no.

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I was curious what the differences would be.
If you already have the information, then you can let me know - as I take data in by a lot of methods.

When taking date via unscrupulous methods, your findings are unethical. You already know that.

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I agree with you that the pouncers were sending the profile messages from the middle of nowhere to a thousand miles away from the middle of nowhere, even though the profile was in the middle of NYC.

Several thousand, thank you.

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There's no way any human can adequately handle even the volume of mail that arose from the moment the profile was created to the time that I removed it. A bulk mail filter would be a necessity, as would a filter for deleting any messages from further than about 25 miles away.

Not exactly.

Over the last seven (?) years or so, I've done a lot of presenting gigs. So far, I've presented in eight different states. That 25 mile thing doesn't apply.

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I have been here a long time (under various guises) but I don't get the volume of mail that you get!

I got more when I was younger and prettier.
Here, for example, is my mail, which, if I do a rough average, is one or two mails a day.

One or two mails a day is manageable, especially since there are fewer than a half dozen people I converse with in a given month (or so).

Of course, the pouncers leave "me" alone!
I couldn't possibly handle my mail if I got the rate that the test profile just received.
I don't know how any of you can, without draconian filtering.
Try being out there.

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That's about the ratio I'm seeing. It's at least 100 to 1, male to female.
We'll see what the couples and homosexual profiles get in the first hour as compared to the middle-aged profiles.

I'm middle aged, married, overweight, etc, etc, etc.

I understand. I glanced at the pictures that folks sent, for example, and one guy took the profile picture and turned it into a beautifully photoshopped creation.
He offered to photoshop anything I wanted.
So, I guess, having been pounced upon, I could take advantage of all the "free stuff" offered - but that wasn't my goal.
I don't do "free stuff".

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I made this profile NYC, which is decidedly not quiet.
However, I don't think even one person was from NY, let alone NYC, after the alotted hour was up.
So, I don't know if the location matters (I mean, guys from India were sending me horrible pictures with the assumption, somehow, that the girl would be interested).
(What are they thinking?)

Turn me loose in NYC for 48 hours. I'll raise 16 kinds of hell.

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Yes. You really can't keep up.
Especially from the pouncers.
Of course, I'd expect (from past experience) that the pouncers will lesson appreciably with time (exponentially perhaps?), but, I had not run an exact duplicate profile before, with the only change being the sex of the profileee. I need to run three more to complete the experiment though.

No, you don't. Stop that.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 10/29/2015 6:20:51 PM

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