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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/10/2016 11:36:06 AM

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Well it does show that 2/3rds of new hampshire republicans are xenophobes but hey, like that is news.

No, it shows that 2/3rd of new hampshire republicans support a temporary ban of muslim immigration. It also shows that people such as yourself are shrill tongued extremists willing to slur and revile people that have different views than you.

...this coming from a guy defending a man who wants to ban people from entering your country just because they have different beliefs/views that his own. Yeah, if that's not hypocritical, then the definition might as well mean jack shit.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/10/2016 11:54:19 AM

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Trump wants to prevent people that have said they wish to commit terrorism and have a track record of so doing - from entering the country.

ISIS announced they would infiltrate refugees; germany and sweden have caught 465 terrorists infiltrated in with refugees.

You are lying when you say its because of what they believe. You know full well its not. You may disagree with the rationale, but only in a liberal mind does that give you carte blanche to lie about the motivations.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/10/2016 12:49:05 PM

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Amazing how the dumbocrats castigated people for wanting to keep out people who may very well be terrorists but don't have a thing to say about Obama keeping Syrian Christians from energy the U.S.A.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/10/2016 1:08:51 PM

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Well, we do talk about ignorant nutsuckers such as yourself, if that helps you.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/10/2016 4:52:23 PM

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Well it does show that 2/3rds of new hampshire republicans are xenophobes but hey, like that is news.

No, it shows that 2/3rd of new hampshire republicans support a temporary ban of muslim immigration. It also shows that people such as yourself are shrill tongued extremists willing to slur and revile people that have different views than you.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/10/2016 4:57:22 PM

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Amazing how the dumbocrats castigated people for wanting to keep out people who may very well be terrorists but don't have a thing to say about Obama keeping Syrian Christians from energy the U.S.A.

Really, ban syrian muslims but not christian syrians.....
Do they have bright lights flashing "christian?
Like a terrorist cant lie.
Bloody idiotic.
Some of us have been terrorised by non muslims.
So fuck your ignorance

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/10/2016 5:22:34 PM

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Hey, for the record

I'm perfectly ok with banning anyone from a predominantly muslim country, regardless of race,creed, or religion.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/11/2016 4:17:08 AM

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We have gone over this and that - but you still haven't responded to the fact that Western armies are in Arab/Muslim lands and have been there in various phases for the past century and more. There are no Arab/Muslim armies in Western lands.

A over view of the past century of Western-Arab/Muslim relations cannot avoid concluding that this is the salient fact around which all history is written and current actions are revolving. This places the first and primary responsibility for hostilities between Arabs/Muslims and the West firmly in the court of the aggressors - the West.

The message from the Arab/Muslim world is clear - please leave us alone. It almost seems trite to point out that given Western military and technological superiority, there would be little prospect of the roles being reversed in the event of a Western withdrawal and the West adopting a policy of non-intervention.

1. Its funny how the defintion of "Muslim lands" keeps expanding. Isis pubished a map that shows spain, greece, hungary etc - as "muslim lands". Yeah, 'fraid we're probably going to keep armies there.

2. How is this relevant to the question of the US wanting to deny muslims access to the US. Saudi arabia denies arabia to christians, Hezbollah denies Israel to the Jews.

So frankly - I don't give a damn how many western armies are on arab lands. American armies are where they are for american geopolitical reasons.

Telling us that you "don't give a damn how many western armies are on arab lands" tells us that you are completely at ease with Western militarism but have strong objections to people defending themselves their lands and their culture from Western aggressions. But this is much more than a simple case of double standards, or arguing that might is right.

It tells us that as far as you are concerned, the West, and only the West, is entitled to act in any way it likes, to invade anywhere it likes, to occupy anywhere it likes, to butcher the indigenous people if they dare to stand up for themselves and their rights and heritages. It is the abhorrent position of naked imperialism. It is difficult to decide whether the arrogance of this position is more offensive than its ugliness, its immorality or its racism.

Mercifully such discredited positions are becoming increasingly unacceptable to most people. The far Right rump that clings to this poisonous vision is increasingly a historical anachronism categorically rejected by any one with a genuine commitment to human rights, to freedom and peace.

It is the last gasp of a dying breed of racist war mongers whose demise cannot happen too quickly .

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/11/2016 7:22:11 AM

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It tells us that as far as you are concerned, the West, and only the West, is entitled to act in any way it likes

No, it tells you I'm a realist. It tells you that a country's actions are predicated on its power. Yes, western civilization is better than anything you have in the middle east. Get over it.

You want to glorify the morality of islamic resistance that house rockets amidst residential areas specifically to cause civilian casualties.. go for it.

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to butcher the indigenous people if they dare to stand up for themselves and their rights and heritages. It is the abhorrent position of naked imperialism. It is difficult to decide whether the arrogance of this position is more offensive than its ugliness, its immorality or its racism.

Yeah, you want to look at real - look at the muslim butchery of india. the muslim butchery of africa. Roman butchery of carthage.
Does the US have faults - sure. but no one except inconsequential powerless twerps believes your screed.

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It is the last gasp of a dying breed of racist war mongers whose demise cannot happen too quickly .

And you're a delusional, inconsequential little hypocritical twerp living on the tit of capitalistic plenty. You are a corrosive malignancy on the body politic.
Muster an ounce of what you say you belief and get your ass out of australia - and go fight for what you say you believe in palestine, or better, syria.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/13/2016 4:28:58 PM

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Trump wants to prevent people that have said they wish to commit terrorism and have a track record of so doing - from entering the country.

ISIS announced they would infiltrate refugees; germany and sweden have caught 465 terrorists infiltrated in with refugees.

You are lying when you say its because of what they believe. You know full well its not. You may disagree with the rationale, but only in a liberal mind does that give you carte blanche to lie about the motivations.

Bullshit. You constantly lie and you know it, Trump clearly said he wants all Muslims stopped from entering the US.

The mans an arsehole, you support him........ I just join the dots.

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(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/13/2016 4:38:21 PM

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...this coming from a guy defending a man who wants to ban people from entering your country just because they have different beliefs/views that his own. Yeah, if that's not hypocritical, then the definition might as well mean jack shit.

You know in democratic countries, majority wins.
So, take for example now Indonesia, a so-called moderate muslim country is going to ban facebook, twitter, whatsapp, etc, because they have homosexual emoticons. And their government clearly stated homosexuality is against Islam.

So liberals who have been fighting for gay rights, wants to allow a influx of people who wants gay people murdered and put to death, to infiltrate their country, and become a majority, to win in their democratic system?

While banning all muslims is clearly not a practical plan, but not allowing Muslim refugees is a good start.

I bet not one single liberal would actually be happy to move to a Muslim majority country and live among them. It's not seen as an ideal world, there is no justice and fairness in their system. Yet, they are so short sighted to not see the implications if Muslim population was allowed to become a majority in their own country.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/13/2016 4:43:17 PM

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More racist bullshit Greta.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/13/2016 5:46:43 PM

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How does one determine who is safe and not safe to enter our borders? I am absolutely sure there are wonderful Muslims who do not deserve to be clothed in the same cloth as their radical brothers, but we have our own country to protect because the fact is we are very hated by many.
There is even crazy hypocrisy in our own land marking all of us of the same group of people if they are violent and radical, who aren't violent and radica, ignorant remarks r made about good people who genuinely do things to make others life's better but they are made fun of. Why do we want to add to a growing problem. This isn't Stupidville, it certainly has looked like it for a few years but I have total faith your going to see major changes.
Bye bye anything goes to hello real power.
Don't be pissed at the jetsons and don't be pissed at Donald. And don't be pissed at us cause people in some countries treat their own people like pure throw away trash.
If a ship is sinking who do you save? Your own family or the thieves or killers next to you?
One country can't police and save the world. The only countries who can save their world are the INDIVIDUALs living in it!
I wish we would mind our own business and quit policing everything.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/13/2016 9:30:32 PM

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More racist bullshit Greta.

Dude you are talking AS IF there are no Chinese Muslims. I am a Religioncist!

Not Racist! If a damn chinese person is a Muslim, I would have a damn huge problem with this person! But Sadly, what happens is, chinese people do become Muslims when they fall inlove with a Muslim, since you are not allowed to marry a Muslim UNLESS you convert to being a Muslim. NO OTHER RELIGION has this "forced conversion" in my country, not even Hindus, not even jews, not even any of the crazier Christian groups.

And I love Atheist people of all colour! Unless they are militant Atheist, then I think they are closet Christians and should stop pretending to be Atheist.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/14/2016 7:22:43 PM

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Trump wants to prevent people that have said they wish to commit terrorism and have a track record of so doing - from entering the country.

ISIS announced they would infiltrate refugees; germany and sweden have caught 465 terrorists infiltrated in with refugees.

You are lying when you say its because of what they believe. You know full well its not. You may disagree with the rationale, but only in a liberal mind does that give you carte blanche to lie about the motivations.

Bullshit. You constantly lie and you know it, Trump clearly said he wants all Muslims stopped from entering the US.

The mans an arsehole, you support him........ I just join the dots.

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(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.

Your reading impediment is getting to you again.
Trumps reason for acting is to stop muslim terrorists.
The action he proposes is banning all muslims.

My comments were in response to tkman claiming Trump proposed these things because they have a different belief. Utter nonsense, of course.

Since I've laid it out now in little words - do you understand now?

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/15/2016 3:13:39 PM

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Your reading impediment is getting to you again.
Trumps reason for acting is to stop muslim terrorists.
The action he proposes is banning all muslims.

My comments were in response to tkman claiming Trump proposed these things because they have a different belief. Utter nonsense, of course.

Since I've laid it out now in little words - do you understand now?

You are lying again arsewipe, you clearly stated Trump didnt say something he actually said. It is easy enough for him to suggest he meant something else after the fact. You are stupid enough to take The Donald at face value, many of us are too smart for both him and you.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/15/2016 3:20:16 PM

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More racist bullshit Greta.

Dude you are talking AS IF there are no Chinese Muslims. I am a Religioncist!

Not Racist! If a damn chinese person is a Muslim, I would have a damn huge problem with this person! But Sadly, what happens is, chinese people do become Muslims when they fall inlove with a Muslim, since you are not allowed to marry a Muslim UNLESS you convert to being a Muslim. NO OTHER RELIGION has this "forced conversion" in my country, not even Hindus, not even jews, not even any of the crazier Christian groups.

And I love Atheist people of all colour! Unless they are militant Atheist, then I think they are closet Christians and should stop pretending to be Atheist.

"Religioncist"......... Like most of your posts, that is something found in your head alone.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/15/2016 4:18:50 PM

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More racist bullshit Greta.

Dude you are talking AS IF there are no Chinese Muslims. I am a Religioncist!

Not Racist! If a damn chinese person is a Muslim, I would have a damn huge problem with this person! But Sadly, what happens is, chinese people do become Muslims when they fall inlove with a Muslim, since you are not allowed to marry a Muslim UNLESS you convert to being a Muslim. NO OTHER RELIGION has this "forced conversion" in my country, not even Hindus, not even jews, not even any of the crazier Christian groups.

And I love Atheist people of all colour! Unless they are militant Atheist, then I think they are closet Christians and should stop pretending to be Atheist.

"Religioncist"......... Like most of your posts, that is something found in your head alone.

Quote me.

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/15/2016 4:29:54 PM

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I bet not one single liberal would actually be happy to move to a Muslim majority country and live among them. It's not seen as an ideal world, there is no justice and fairness in their system. Yet, they are so short sighted to not see the implications if Muslim population was allowed to become a majority in their own country.

Muslims won't ever become a majority in either the UK or the USA, Greta. But even if their numbers increased hugely, the overwhelming likelihood is that they'd be just like most other British or American Muslims: they'd realise what side their bread's buttered, just hunker down and get on with their lives, and not bother anyone. *That* is how Muslims have generally acted in countries that are predominately non-Muslim.

If you possibly can turn your head away from the headlines of the simplest newspapers, just for an instant - do you think you could answer for yourself the question: If Islam is really so bad, why exactly do the majority of Muslims living in mainly non-Muslim countries live their entire lives without actually hurting anyone at all?

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RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Enterin... - 2/15/2016 4:45:22 PM

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How does one determine who is safe and not safe to enter our borders? I am absolutely sure there are wonderful Muslims who do not deserve to be clothed in the same cloth as their radical brothers, but we have our own country to protect because the fact is we are very hated by many.

All you have to do is work out what such terrorists as Timothy McVeigh have in common with Muslim terrorists who come in from outside of the USA. McVeigh wasn't Muslim, but he killed 168 people. Still, the question is easily answered. No brain-work required.

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