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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 4:29:08 PM

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You really are appallingly stupid - it seems very obvious that some men are desperate enough to marry anything with a pulse.

Apparently some women are quite as desperate, but you got to keep her happy for a while your green card is gone. But I am glad if you are getting some, even a retard like you should have some sex.

Btw your whinging and hate and fear of women doesn't make you look very dominant, more like the little tosser you are.

Keep on amusing me, watching a desperate dude convince people that the world is flat is kinda funny.

Your claims of being amused would carry more weight if you didn't constantly respond to everything I said by talking to other people about me.

Now, your weakness is obvious to me... and I suspect that's what your real problem is: Because I know your claims of dominance and all your little pretensions are a sham. Which is why you can't help yourself. You know full well that I see right through you - and that simultaneously frightens and attracts you.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 4:34:35 PM

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For those men who are so inadequate and impaired that they can't get sex any other way than by paying for it, and whose numbers are legion, I'd say the worth of those women willing to fuck for money is, to those men, priceless.

A lot of men seem to believe you pay for sex with either a relationship or marriage. And, as I said, it's very often women who seem to have a transactional approach to sex. Which is why they suddenly believe they should be paid upon divorce.

I mean, women need to make up their minds. Either they have sex with someone because of "mutual desire" or they don't. Don't come begging for a handout after a marriage is over. That just makes a woman a hooker after the fact.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 4:43:24 PM

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Apparently some women are quite as desperate

Hey! Out of bounds!

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 4:55:53 PM

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God I think I am about to throw up.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 5:43:10 PM

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For those men who are so inadequate and impaired that they can't get sex any other way than by paying for it, and whose numbers are legion, I'd say the worth of those women willing to fuck for money is, to those men, priceless.

A lot of men seem to believe you pay for sex with either a relationship or marriage. And, as I said, it's very often women who seem to have a transactional approach to sex. Which is why they suddenly believe they should be paid upon divorce.

I mean, women need to make up their minds. Either they have sex with someone because of "mutual desire" or they don't. Don't come begging for a handout after a marriage is over. That just makes a woman a hooker after the fact.

I agree with that, except in those marriage where the couple agree that one will stay home and raise their kids, most often the woman. During those years the stay-at-home's employable skills become obsolete and their ability to earn a living is diminished, the more so the longer the time at home. I've also seen plenty of marriages in which the higher earning man requires the wife to remain unemployed even without kids. In those 2 scenarios, I think the income of the person whose job skills have been kept current during the marriage needs to support the other to balance that out. But absent those types of agreements, I'd agree that payments post marriage are bullshit. Though I can tell you from first hand knowledge that men when they are the lower earners demand alimony too in the divorce arena. It's just less common for "him" to be the lower earner, though that is changing with time.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 5:56:43 PM

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For those men who are so inadequate and impaired that they can't get sex any other way than by paying for it, and whose numbers are legion, I'd say the worth of those women willing to fuck for money is, to those men, priceless.

A lot of men seem to believe you pay for sex with either a relationship or marriage. And, as I said, it's very often women who seem to have a transactional approach to sex. Which is why they suddenly believe they should be paid upon divorce.

I mean, women need to make up their minds. Either they have sex with someone because of "mutual desire" or they don't. Don't come begging for a handout after a marriage is over. That just makes a woman a hooker after the fact.

I agree with that, except in those marriage where the couple agree that one will stay home and raise their kids, most often the woman. During those years the stay-at-home's employable skills become obsolete and their ability to earn a living is diminished, the more so the longer the time at home. I've also seen plenty of marriages in which the higher earning man requires the wife to remain unemployed even without kids. In those 2 scenarios, I think the income of the person whose job skills have been kept current during the marriage needs to support the other to balance that out. But absent those types of agreements, I'd agree that payments post marriage are bullshit. Though I can tell you from first hand knowledge that men when they are the lower earners demand alimony too in the divorce arena. It's just less common for "him" to be the lower earner, though that is changing with time.

And in many states alimony is no longer an option. With more and more women entering the workforce in the last decades, and so many homes being the type where both parents worked, many states no longer consider alimony at all. In fact, among all the women that I know that are divorced, not a single one gets alimony. Because we have always worked.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 6:50:53 PM

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A guy asks a woman if she'll have sex with him for a million dollars. She thinks about it and then says "yes". He then asks her if she'll have sex with him for five dollars. She reacts with outrage exclaiming, "What kind of woman do you think I am!"

He says, "Well we've already established that - now we're just negotiating a price."

Same with you - apparently transactional sex is fine with you, provided the price is sufficiently high. That tells us everything we need to know about what kind of a woman you are - so save your faux fucking outrage, you hypocritical basket case.

Sex is not transactional with all women. Some believe they are priceless and will turn down a Million dollars or more. I was a offered a 1mil apartment (because apartments minimally cost 1 mil in my country anyway), and a ferrari to be a man's 24/7 full time sub. He was early 40's, and I was late twenties than.

But I turn it down not because I think I am priceless, I definitely have a price, but because I felt our kinks were not compatible. And I was not willing to accommodate what he wanted as his sub. And it would be a relationship where he can't give me what I need the most, which is emotional availability. But if I had emotionally availability, as well, it would be a sweet deal, and I don't really need the car and the apartment. I mean, I already have my own place. Good to have another to rent out.

But I do agree I have a price. Price can be $$ or it can be other things. I ask for alot of things out of $$ category. To me, that is a price too. Time is money for example. Payment can be made by many things. For example, in return, I need him to be emotionally available for me at all times. That's a price too. And I think it's big one for many men to pay, as many don't like to be emotionally available. If they can solve your problems by just fixing it through financial option, they are gonna choose the financial option.

To me, a relationship is about what you can offer each other. The man will want things in return in exchange for what he gives me. It may or may not be $$. And the best relationships are when both parties are content about their mutual exchanges, whatever that is.

But if a woman is gonna suffer through disgusting sex with a man 40 yrs older, then maybe rent is seriously too little of a price to have in return.

Unless she has a fetish for extreme much older men. Then yea, enjoy!

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 6:59:58 PM

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Well said,

I have far more financial "stability" than most, and I bring that to the table, along with everything else. It's not that we're paying for a relationship. We're playing all of the cards in our hand. With all other things being equal, have material wealth and stability is just another edge that I might have, over another potential candidate.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 7:24:35 PM

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Sex is not transactional with all women.

Yes it is...you say so below.

Some believe they are priceless and will turn down a Million dollars or more. I was a offered a 1mil apartment (because apartments minimally cost 1 mil in my country anyway), and a ferrari to be a man's 24/7 full time sub. He was early 40's, and I was late twenties than.

roflmfao

But I turn it down not because I think I am priceless, I definitely have a price, but because I felt our kinks were not compatible. And I was not willing to accommodate what he wanted as his sub. And it would be a relationship where he can't give me what I need the most, which is emotional availability.

Wow transactional sex

But if I had emotionally availability, as well, it would be a sweet deal, and I don't really need the car and the apartment. I mean, I already have my own place. Good to have another to rent out.

But I do agree I have a price.

Wow transactional sex

Price can be $$ or it can be other things. I ask for alot of things out of $$ category. To me, that is a price too. Time is money for example. Payment can be made by many things. For example, in return, I need him to be emotionally available for me at all times. That's a price too. And I think it's big one for many men to pay, as many don't like to be emotionally available. If they can solve your problems by just fixing it through financial option, they are gonna choose the financial option.

To me, a relationship is about what you can offer each other. The man will want things in return in exchange for what he gives me. It may or may not be $$. And the best relationships are when both parties are content about their mutual exchanges, whatever that is.

I am pretty sure it is called transactional sex.

But if a woman is gonna suffer through disgusting sex

This assumes facts not in evidence.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/13/2016 1:09:11 AM

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Sex is not transactional with all women.
Some believe they are priceless and will turn down a Million dollars or more. I was a offered a 1mil apartment (because apartments minimally cost 1 mil in my country anyway), and a ferrari to be a man's 24/7 full time sub. He was early 40's, and I was late twenties than.

roflmfao

Sex is not transactional with all women. That means to me, not all women believes that $$ is the only motivation that matters for sex. Thus the ones who don't care for $$ will never accept rent in exchange for sex, or $$ in exchange for sex.

For me personally, how much orgasms a man can give me, is my biggest motivation to be with any man, if his dirt poor, but can make me happy in bed, I'd support him financially. But considering I have a limitless sex drive. Most men fail me on this part of things. And the only man I ever met who fulfilled me, because his sex drive is identical to mine. Only man on earth I ever met who sex drive and libido increases with every cum. For me, I juice up with every cum, it's like charging my batteries to get more energetic. I just never met a man who has the same thing except him, it's amazing. But his not poor, so oh well. I'd love to keep him permanently in my bed.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/13/2016 3:19:21 AM

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Apparently some women are quite as desperate, but you got to keep her happy for a while your green card is gone.

Frankly, that does seem over the top, LC.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/13/2016 3:23:41 AM

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Sex is not transactional with all women.

Yes it is.

Some believe they are priceless and will turn down a Million dollars or more. I was a offered a 1mil apartment (because apartments minimally cost 1 mil in my country anyway), and a ferrari to be a man's 24/7 full time sub. He was early 40's, and I was late twenties than.

roflmfao

Sex is not transactional with all women.

Yes it is.

That means to me, not all women believes that $$ is the only motivation that matters for sex.

Make up your mind sweetie. Earlier you posted that the payment may take many forms beides $$.

Thus the ones who don't care for $$ will never accept rent in exchange for sex, or $$ in exchange for sex.

You listed some of the things you (the priceless one) you would accept for sex.

For me personally, how much orgasms a man can give me, is my biggest motivation to be with any man, if his dirt poor, but can make me happy in bed, I'd support him financially. But considering I have a limitless sex drive. Most men fail me on this part of things.

You have told us that your idea of good sex is that you show up nake (nake being the present tense of naked)and act like a cum dumpster till he is done... rinse repeat...

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/13/2016 3:23:46 AM

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Fast reply.
I am greatly disappointed in you So2. So, you would take advantage of a young female, with no options of a roof over her head or food on the table? You'd rather somebody would chose to f^ck you rather than starve?

Is that the arrangement that you want?

Back 25 years ago, I was in that position Never had to, because I always made my own money,

What if I didn't

It is with my great regret that this thread exists.

I'm not sure that's fair, LadyPact. Assuming she agrees to the arrangement, she's hardly the victim.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/13/2016 3:31:44 AM

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Same with you - apparently transactional sex is fine with you, provided the price is sufficiently high. That tells us everything we need to know about what kind of a woman you are - so save your faux fucking outrage, you hypocritical basket case.

To me, a relationship is about what you can offer each other. The man will want things in return in exchange for what he gives me. It may or may not be $$. And the best relationships are when both parties are content about their mutual exchanges, whatever that is.

True enough. It hardly makes a difference what the price is, once it's been paid.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/13/2016 5:01:08 AM

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Apparently some women are quite as desperate

Hey! Out of bounds!

What? But what the little boy says isn't? Is he crying? Awww, give him a tissue. Nice to see that he lets you post when his ikkle little feelings are hurt

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/13/2016 5:06:44 AM

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You really are appallingly stupid - it seems very obvious that some men are desperate enough to marry anything with a pulse.

Apparently some women are quite as desperate, but you got to keep her happy for a while your green card is gone. But I am glad if you are getting some, even a retard like you should have some sex.

Btw your whinging and hate and fear of women doesn't make you look very dominant, more like the little tosser you are.

Keep on amusing me, watching a desperate dude convince people that the world is flat is kinda funny.

Your claims of being amused would carry more weight if you didn't constantly respond to everything I said by talking to other people about me.

Now, your weakness is obvious to me... and I suspect that's what your real problem is: Because I know your claims of dominance and all your little pretensions are a sham. Which is why you can't help yourself. You know full well that I see right through you - and that simultaneously frightens and attracts you.

Actually little boy, I took you off ignore for a while because I changed a few things on the computer. But your amusement span has limits. However continue broadcasting your insecurities to the world. Obviously you need a woman who's happy to be treated like an inflatable doll, a real woman is much too scary. You do know that they do penis extensions now?

Let me put it this way, your attraction is amazing, let's see, 5 minutes enduring your presence or a root canal without anesthetics... Thought about for 2 seconds, I think I call the dentist.

So don't cry too much, we all got it, now continue with your mindless agenda... I hope not too many people quote you so I don't have to see your verbal diarrhea, even the biggest clown has to change the repertoire on occasion, you don't seem to be able to do that. Have a lovely life sweetheart, I'm sure in your own mind you are a stud...

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/13/2016 5:14:46 AM

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What? But what the little boy says isn't? Is he crying? Awww, give him a tissue. Nice to see that he lets you post when his ikkle little feelings are hurt

No offense, but it seems pretty classless to be rude to Kaliko, who has been nothing but gracious to you (whatever your feelings are towards Awareness).

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/13/2016 5:37:08 AM

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For those men who are so inadequate and impaired that they can't get sex any other way than by paying for it, and whose numbers are legion, I'd say the worth of those women willing to fuck for money is, to those men, priceless.

A lot of men seem to believe you pay for sex with either a relationship or marriage. And, as I said, it's very often women who seem to have a transactional approach to sex. Which is why they suddenly believe they should be paid upon divorce.

I mean, women need to make up their minds. Either they have sex with someone because of "mutual desire" or they don't. Don't come begging for a handout after a marriage is over. That just makes a woman a hooker after the fact.

So a man having a relationship with a woman is him paying for sex??? and so a man gets nothing more from that relationship than sex? omfg..

One of the major reasons I dumped my ex was cuz he stopped wanting sex, and for me, I need the physical closeness I get from sex and that intimacy to keep love alive and replenished.. once love disappears you are just roommates.. who needs that? And in the case of my ex, when we split up I didnt demand anything from him, no "payment" at all (finally getting away was all I needed).. I even gave him back my wedding ring as it was his grandmothers and I felt that giving it back was the right thing to do.. Btw, he never asked for the ring back, it was my idea to do that..

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/13/2016 6:20:27 AM

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You have told us that your idea of good sex is that you show up nake (nake being the present tense of naked)and act like a cum dumpster till he is done... rinse repeat...

Don't think I ever got cum deposited in me since I always insist on condoms, even when I was married. Cum goes inside the condoms. And I don't get orgasms from penetration. So 99% of my sexual interaction does not involve penetrative sex with a dick anyway. As most dicks can't hit the gspot. I have serious trust issues that even when a man tells me his exclusive with me, I don't believe him. So I always insist on condoms. After all, diseases spread when the man gets it from other women.

And it doesn't help I have girlfriends who got STDs from their husbands who lied about their sexual exclusivity.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/13/2016 7:56:00 AM

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You have told us that your idea of good sex is that you show up nake (nake being the present tense of naked)and act like a cum dumpster till he is done... rinse repeat...

Don't think I ever got cum deposited in me since I always insist on condoms,

Not sure how exactly condoms change one's job title from cum dumpster to something resembling an inter-active sex partner.?

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