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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 1:54:31 PM

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I disagree with Michael and everyone else who has agreed with his comments.

Kaepernick can in fact be punished by the NFL for his actions. Consequently he is NOT protected by the Constitution.

The NFL could suspend him, i think. Give a thought to the overwhelming number of black players in the league. Can you imagine their reaction to such a penalty? The NFL would be rubbing salt into the grievances felt by many in the black communities over the shootings that have taken place.

The notion that Kaepernick has disrespected the troops who died for our freedoms to speak out is bogus. I see no circumstance in the last 70 years where this country was in existential jeopardy. According to reports in the media all of that patriotism before NFL games was purchased by the DOD. It is all about propaganda and manufacturing our consent to enable the ever growing DOD budget. It is a manufactured patriotism.

Highlighted part that is how he will paint anything that happens to him so yes you did.

Uhmm. . . can you point to the word "automatic?" No, you can't. The clear implication is that the League is aware they have a large number of black employees and a community of fans they would offend. I think that punitive action by the League would be seen as more racism. I doubt the NFL can go down that road.

You like inevitable better?
Regardless of the word you used you proclaimed it to be a sure thing.

He will claim, and people of your ilk will accept that anything negative that happens to him in the near future is based on race.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 2:02:25 PM

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Apologize for what? That you tried to skim your own well displayed bigotry on many occasions before this post on someone else?

As I said, biggest, not to mention fattest, idiot bigot on this site.

ML has told me in the past that since I am white I cannot say what black people would do so I just followed suit on what they said he would do.
You of course don't want to see that thus your pointless, and unfounded insults.
Been channeling the otter?
The difference between you and Helen Keller is that you can't see due to choice.

I have to point out, your spelling is getting better.

But in any case, what are you doing in going by the direction of someone who has political and ideological inclinations so directly opposed to yours?

So if I don't bow down to the master race I am racist and if I do I am faking it?

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 2:21:42 PM

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I don't fall in 100% with Kaepernick's mode of action, only because it drags people like you from under the rocks, as distraction from the actual cause under consideration.

But you are welcome to enlighten us as to why you are so enthralled with the NFL disallowing a display of testament to victims of ONE black guy shooting every white/black/yellow/tan colored cop he could fire upon, vs, the seemingly innumerable only black guys that seemingly only white cops shoot at.

Well for starters the % of people shot by cops is considerably lower that the % of violent crimes commited by blacks so your basic primise is false.
And the reason is that the NFL is taking sides. If one view can't be expressed neither can. They are a sports organization, not a political one.

There we go.

As long as the cops can keep the numbers below what from blacks shoot themselves, it's all cool, right?

But, again, tell us how any of this is to purpose of Kaepernick "extending his career."

What team in their right mind would take a $16 mil dead cap hit for somebody sitting at the wrong time? In any case for a stupid-ass national anthem at a sporting event, which that by itself already degenerates the whole intent.

5,000 baseball games a year, 1,300 basketball games a year, almost 300 NFL games a year, including playoffs. The national anthem sung by mostly poor singers, at every event. Don't forget the major and minor league hockey games too.

What kind of 'respect' is THAT?

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 2:32:59 PM

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So if I don't bow down to the master race I am racist and if I do I am faking it?

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 2:34:40 PM

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I don't fall in 100% with Kaepernick's mode of action, only because it drags people like you from under the rocks, as distraction from the actual cause under consideration.

But you are welcome to enlighten us as to why you are so enthralled with the NFL disallowing a display of testament to victims of ONE black guy shooting every white/black/yellow/tan colored cop he could fire upon, vs, the seemingly innumerable only black guys that seemingly only white cops shoot at.

Well for starters the % of people shot by cops is considerably lower that the % of violent crimes commited by blacks so your basic primise is false.
And the reason is that the NFL is taking sides. If one view can't be expressed neither can. They are a sports organization, not a political one.

There we go.

As long as the cops can keep the numbers below what from blacks shoot themselves, it's all cool, right?

But, again, tell us how any of this is to purpose of Kaepernick "extending his career."

What team in their right mind would take a $16 mil dead cap hit for somebody sitting at the wrong time? In any case for a stupid-ass national anthem at a sporting event, which that by itself already degenerates the whole intent.

5,000 baseball games a year, 1,300 basketball games a year, almost 300 NFL games a year, including playoffs. The national anthem sung by mostly poor singers, at every event. Don't forget the major and minor league hockey games too.

What kind of 'respect' is THAT?

You don't follow real well now do you.
I didn't say anything about him being cut over the protest.
But if they just have him sitting on the bench they are still taking that 16 m hit and getting little in return.
If they wait till the end of the season and cut him for perly economic reasons an he yells race who are you oing to believe. He has set up a situation where he can get them to settle for a few m extra.

No I did not say that as long as cops kill less black than blacks do.

I said that when you compare the % of people who are shot by the police to the % of violent crimes you will fin that the % of those shot is lower, the same with white people.
The group in the nation with a greater share of people shot than the their share of violent crime are Hispanics. Can you comprehend that or will you have to spin that into something that fits your world view.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 2:50:04 PM

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On every team, there is one or three guys taking first string pay who sit on the bench or sometimes don't even get to be in the 46 allowed to wear a jersey that day. That's the reality.

But on the other hand, if you want to point out countries with worse murder rates than the US, how about you start paying attention to countries with much better healthcare plans and much better educational systems?

Ohhh, that would really hurt, wouldn't it?

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 3:15:56 PM

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He was protesting that black lives matter.

Well, if black lives matter, then quit fucking killing EACH OTHER.

I hear ya, absolutely.

From personal experience, I -think- that there is progress in the matter.

However agonizingly slow that may be.

If I correctly recall, you have a chem degree.

Take just ONE semester of Geology.

Then you come out of it, chuckling ... "Hah, 500,000 years? that's a short nap."

I am 'disturbed' as you are at the matter, sir.

But from what I saw ~5 years ago at the Uni, I think we'll be OK, eventually.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 3:23:53 PM

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After taking two semesters of Geology, then looking at the news, politics, reading history, etc., (not to mention all the econ classes);

It's so much easier to just quickly hit on all the boxes ending in "Not in my lifetime."

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 3:26:58 PM

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And that's not a statement of disappointment.

Just how things are, and sorry for human impatience.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 8:53:31 PM

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Damn I thought this was a thread about Trump...
My bad
as you were

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 9:16:59 PM

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"Are you outraged at the NFL which makes fucking billions per year but insists that cities have to build stadiums they can't afford? (That's YOUR tax dollars at work, by the way - subsidising a multi-billion dollar corporation which exploits the players, the fans and the cities stupid enough to host its games). "

Not so sure about this exploiting the players part, millions per year when there are no jobs ? But the fact does remain that they are forced to share the wealth, unlike in many jobs where the labor pool is big enough they can fuck you up the ass.

And about the stadiums ? you don't have to tell me about it, Clevland, Ohio is one of the cities most fucked up the ass by these motherfuckers. I means there are number on the internet that prove it. Our local politicians must be exceptionally stupid or got more bribe money. In fact, we were one of the last cities in the country to get cable TV because the cable companies would not pay high enough bribes. Fucking Dust Bowl, Kansas had cable before we did. Mostly because of George Forbes but remember, the head of city council is elected by city council. Enough money would have sent him packing. Then supposedly his office gets broken into, no signs of forced entry and the safe was missing $50,000. What the fuck is he doing with fifty grand in the safe ? Buying McDonald's for the Black community ?

And then there was the fight over Cleveland Public Power. but that is not for now, let's just say that it was mighty corrput and I see no signs of it getting better. Those city councilmen do not give away your money for free, they need a little grease for their pocket. And there is no way to stop it. They got relatives and friends they can trust. And then like Bill and Hillary Clinton, they can start a "foundation" if necessary.

It is the type of people, they are not trustable at all. I would not want any of them in my house and in fact I don't even want to meet them. i can't think of a President in my lifetime I would like to meet except for Nixon and that would be for a poker game. I hear he was pretty damn good.

No current congressman. I wouldn't mind meeting Trafficant, who everyone thinks is a crook but is straighter than anyone else in that government. Maybe Ron Paul but I don't like his religious part. Rand, he has made some unsavory friends. I can't think of anyone else.

An this football player, if he hadn't done that everyone would be all over him, but I have no desire to meet or even see any ball player, or even actor or singer or whoever. Why ?

And people swoon over them like they are some sort of saviour or some shit. Fucking assholes.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 9:20:46 PM

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You should just elect drunken crackheads like we do in Toronto.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 9:21:52 PM

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You should just elect drunken crackheads like we do in Toronto.

yeah that worked out sssssssoooo well

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 9:24:32 PM

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Remember that mayor in Washington DC.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 9:45:26 PM

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Yeah he was good, but not "drunken stupor" as an excuse good.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 9:50:09 PM

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You should just elect drunken crackheads like we do in Toronto.

yeah that worked out sssssssoooo well

You mean that somebody aside the US screws up?

(shuts up immediately).

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 10:00:29 PM

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Canada has its problems too...who ever said otherwise?

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 10:02:02 PM

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Trump card

OK, that was funny

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 10:39:58 PM

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I think you ladies are just trying to mess with me, pulling all these card tricks.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/13/2016 11:33:01 PM

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I still think it is a ploy to protect his 16 million a year, not out of his concern for the alleged "bodies stacking up in the streets".

Could be, but I don't see how.

He lost his starting position on the team. before he started this.
Now he gets starters pay for sitting on the bench. Even without caps it makes no sense to pay a backup that much.
Now if he gets cut or they try to re-negotiate his contact he screams that they are picking on him for taking a stand. Then he counts on the other black players in the union topretend that's what happened and back him.

It will do him/them no good. They can cut him for any reason and they only keep him to try and get something in a trade if they can find any team to give something in return and pick up his salary or maybe at least...most of it. SF may have to kick in some.

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