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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 4:04:02 PM   
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I think London is turning into a hotbed of Islamic extremism and we'll see the results of that very shortly.


You lunatic. God, A. Come on.


The problem is those that are racist, islamophobic or both just spout out any bullshit, regardless of how much evidence you put before them.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 4:06:51 PM   
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...I constantly tell Europeans to mind their own business...

That'll never happen. Too many of them are far too convinced of their own superiority.

I know but if I tell them to mind their own business I have to do the same no matter what they do.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 4:07:23 PM   
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... Can it be that the Americans here have ignored everything that the non-Americans here have been saying, forever?


It can be exactly that.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 4:07:45 PM   
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I'd pay attention to your views if you had the first idea of the meaning of political terminology, but you don't so I won't.


and I might pay attention to your views if your posts weren't more or less simple contradictions of whom you are replying to. not to mention dismissive without understanding what the other person actually knows.

the sky is blue.

no, it isn't and you don't know anything about meteorology.

interestingly enough, in this case, I don't have to know anything about political terminology for my premise to hold true. people are people no matter where you find them.





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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 4:08:36 PM   
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the European and Canadian lefties here aren't much different than the American lefties.

Actually they are, see the European nd Canadian lefties are actual lefties, while the American lefties are for the most part right-leaning centrists.


Strewth. The Left/Right axis in the USA is *nothing* like it is in the rest of the English-speaking world. Do Americans here still imagine that it is? Can it be that the Americans here have ignored everything that the non-Americans here have been saying, forever?

We try.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 4:10:53 PM   
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We try.


I know some of you do, B. Thank you.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 4:20:20 PM   
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...I constantly tell Europeans to mind their own business...

That'll never happen. Too many of them are far too convinced of their own superiority.

I know but if I tell them to mind their own business I have to do the same no matter what they do.

I understand. We've shot at them twice now in our history and they still won't go away. I don't suppose a third time will help either.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 4:30:32 PM   
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the European and Canadian lefties here aren't much different than the American lefties.

Actually they are, see the European nd Canadian lefties are actual lefties, while the American lefties are for the most part right-leaning centrists.


Strewth. The Left/Right axis in the USA is *nothing* like it is in the rest of the English-speaking world. Do Americans here still imagine that it is? Can it be that the Americans here have ignored everything that the non-Americans here have been saying, forever?

We try.


yeah, that left/right axis is so different between americans and Europeans that I can clearly (NOT) tell the difference between the respective lefties when it comes to their views on guns, Christianity, same sex marriage, islam, taxation, welfare, the role of government, illegal immigration, health care, racism, and on and on and on...


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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 5:02:50 PM   
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the European and Canadian lefties here aren't much different than the American lefties.

Actually they are, see the European nd Canadian lefties are actual lefties, while the American lefties are for the most part right-leaning centrists.


Strewth. The Left/Right axis in the USA is *nothing* like it is in the rest of the English-speaking world. Do Americans here still imagine that it is? Can it be that the Americans here have ignored everything that the non-Americans here have been saying, forever?

We try.


yeah, that left/right axis is so different between americans and Europeans that I can clearly (NOT) tell the difference between the respective lefties when it comes to their views on guns, Christianity, same sex marriage, islam, taxation, welfare, the role of government, illegal immigration, health care, racism, and on and on and on...


I look to see if they use the phrase 'like we do" or like they do".
All seem to have weak enough wills that an inanimate object can overpower them and bend them to it's will.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 5:27:56 PM   
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the European and Canadian lefties here aren't much different than the American lefties.

Actually they are, see the European nd Canadian lefties are actual lefties, while the American lefties are for the most part right-leaning centrists.


Strewth. The Left/Right axis in the USA is *nothing* like it is in the rest of the English-speaking world. Do Americans here still imagine that it is? Can it be that the Americans here have ignored everything that the non-Americans here have been saying, forever?

We try.


yeah, that left/right axis is so different between americans and Europeans that I can clearly (NOT) tell the difference between the respective lefties when it comes to their views on guns, Christianity, same sex marriage, islam, taxation, welfare, the role of government, illegal immigration, health care, racism, and on and on and on...


Then as usual your inchoate ideology has left you brain dead. roundhead (no longer here) was a bomb throwing liberal. Peon is a left leaning centrist, Politesub is a Tory who would swim a shit river a mile wide, and swallow a turd every stroke just to kiss the spot Iron Balls Maggie pissed on. AND he is intelligent and logical about it. Northern Gent makes Politesubs conservatism seem like he is a bomb throwing anarchist.

A good cross-section of people those fine gentlemen, I am friends with every one of them.

Your closest match would be NG. A real conservatives match would be Politesub, a liberals match would be Peon.

They are all slightly conservative, those here. Not a lefty liberal libtard among them

Whoremods I have not had an actual political discussion with yet, but if he is who I think his old profile is...........closer to Roundhead than he is to NG.

If I told you what their jobs were, you would go, of course, now it makes perfect sense.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 5:32:00 PM   
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You do understand that Sharia by definition only applies to Muslims, right?

That's still not okay! Because Muslims in Muslim countries are usually not Muslims by choice!

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 5:34:17 PM   
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Well, of course, if he's like that, he can't be a true Muslim, just like he can't be a true Scotsman.

If he wasn't trying to kill you, he probably isn't a true Muslim. And also, I like Muslims who aren't true Muslims and who do not obey their faith! They usually aren't at risk of becoming terrorists. So I definitely like Muslims who eat pork and drink alcohol much better! And if they got drastic transformation to unpious to suddenly very pious. Be very careful.

I feel like reading the Quran brainwashes people and there is suddenly a "On" switch to terrorism for some people. Almost like hypnotherapy.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 5:35:51 PM   
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I have ate bacon and eggs with many a muslim, and hindi, and had beers with them also.

We dont tell too many religious jokes to one another.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 5:37:46 PM   
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I have ate bacon and eggs with many a muslim, and hindu, and had beers with them also.
We dont tell to many religious jokes to one another.

Hindu People can eat pork bacon and drink alcohol. They just cannot eat beef BTW. Don't know what is the relevance of Hindu.

But as I said, Muslims who will eat Pork with you and drink alcohol with you. I feel safer with them.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 5:42:44 PM   
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Ive ate beef with hindus,it is not haram for them regardless of what you think wrongly.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 5:44:47 PM   
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Ive ate beef with hindus,it is not haram for them regardless of what you think wrongly.


As a Hindu you aren't suppose to eat beef. But as with most religious people. It's like Buddhist not suppose to eat meat at all, but most Buddhist eat meat.

But what I love about Hindu restriction on beef is so much better story than stupid Muslim story on Pork. In my country poor Muslim kids are forced to watch a traumatizing video of how pork meat gets maggots on it if left out, like WTF! Doesn't that happen with any meat! They are told pork meat is dirty.

In the oldest religion of the world, Hinduism, the cow is thought to be sacred, or deeply respected. Hindus do not worship cows, although they are held in high esteem. The reason has to do with the cow's agricultural uses and gentle nature. Hindus rely heavily on cows for dairy products, for tilling fields, and for dung as a source of fuel and fertilizer. So, the cow is seen as a 'caretaker' or maternal figure. One Hindu goddess is usually shown in the form of a cow: Bhoomi (ভূমি). She represents the Earth.

Most Hindus respect the cow for her gentle nature which represents the main teaching of Hinduism, non-injury (ahimsa). The cow also represents butter (ghee) and strength. The cow is very honored in society, and Hindus do not eat beef (cow meat), however beef consumption is widely prevalent amongst Hindus in the larger Indian subcontinent, for example Tamil Hindus in Malaysia. In majority of Indian states (27 out of 29 Sates), it is illegal to eat or possess cow meat. In the olden days cattle being limited to select few fortunate folks, the cows enjoyed the status that gold or money enjoys today.

“One can measure the greatness of a nation and its moral progress by the way it treats its animals. Cow protection to me is not mere protection of the cow. It means protection of all that lives and is helpless and weak in the world. The cow means the entire subhuman world.” Mahatma Gandhi.


https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_cow

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 5:46:11 PM   
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You do understand that Sharia by definition only applies to Muslims, right?
You do understand the Islam, by definition, believes everyone is a Muslim, right?



There are more than one interpretation off the Koran on that. some say to get all the non-Muslims out of Muslim lands, or convert them.


Actually, you do NOT convert to Islam. You Re-vert.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 5:53:40 PM   
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If he wasn't trying to kill you, he probably isn't a true Muslim.


Fine. Most Muslims aren't true Muslims, then.

All we need to do now is work out the difference between the trueys and the non-trueys, and then we can start talking rationally, at last, about who's a potential danger and who isn't.

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 8:10:26 PM   
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You do understand that Sharia by definition only applies to Muslims, right?
You do understand the Islam, by definition, believes everyone is a Muslim, right?




Your lack of understanding of the muslim faith, the Quran and how the think of the rest of the world would fill the library of congress, and I am counting the 30,000 square feet of warehouses as well.
What I think interesting is that Termy clearly has a more nuanced understanding of the Muslim faith than you do.

When Muslims impose Sharia Law, they intend for it to apply to everybody. Especially given the penalty for apostasy is death.




Really?

Lets see, Saudi Arabia has sharia law, and a large population of christians who arent stoned, murdered or imprisoned....

And my Muslim friends have always referred to me as a christian, not a Muslim.

And according to the Quran (I suggest you buy a copy and actually read it) the people of the book (i.e Muslims, Christians, Jews) all go to heaven because we all follow the same god.

True followers of Islam also know something that is really strange, when you consider the fact that Islamic extremists kill Jews, Christians, fellow Muslims, are all descended from Abraham, the first Patriarch, and therefore (at least in the Semitic races of the middle east i.e Arabs and Jews) which basically means that they are killing family members, and doing so without a trial lands you in hell.

Basically, you and Termy know just the bullshit that everyone uses to justify restricting and out right prejudiced against the members of the Muslim faith.

If all that bullshit were true, ISIS would be about 1.6 billion strong and the only way to stop the holy war is using nukes....

However, ISIS members are Salafi (google it) and consider all other Muslims apostates, they are also the smallest sect of Islam.

Hezbollah is a shia terrorist group that is primarily anti Jew, which is strange because in Hezbollah controlled regions, christians are considered 'people of the book' and given equal protection under sharia law, without some of the more extreme sentences, since christians do not practice Islam.

Al Qaeda is primarily from the Sunni sect, which holds to the teachings of Islam from 1400 years ago, and is considered the most violent of the Islamic sects.

The Shia-Sunni schism is based on who should have been next in line of succession to Muhammad in 632 CE, and it really got nasty after Battle of Karbala, in which Hussein ibn Ali and his household were killed by the ruling Umayyad Caliph Yazid I.

Sunnis for the most part accept the Prophet's decree of peace to the people of the book, however as to how exactly that peace is to be maintained and administered in Sunni controlled countries is a point of contention inside the Sunni leadership. Fundamentalist think that for a person of the book to have full citizenship, they should convert completely to Islam, while moderates dont see it that way, which is why there are Sunni groups killing other Sunni groups.

And none of them agree on the importance of the Hadith. These are 'reports' of the sayings of the Prophet, however all of them are taken out of context. Moderate and progressive Muslims (the world majority of the Islamic population) from all sects feel that the Hadith is but a guide to refer a person back to the Quran to actually see what the Prophet was talking about.

Now as for Sharia law, nobody seems to see just where it came from. Everyone proclaims it is uniquely Muslim, but it is not. Sharia law is taken straight from the Law of Moses, which if Jews were to follow to the letter, they would probably exceed the Islamic terrorists in family blood spilled. For instance the only punishment under the law of Moses for a disrespectful child was being stoned to death.

Muhammad build on the old testament, which is part of the required reading for any devote Muslim.

Muslims believe Jesus Christ was but one more prophet and for Muslims, Jesus is a Muslim (hence Christians being children of the book.)

And since all of the above is a very basic explanation of the Muslim situation, and all of it completely contrary to the great all Muslims are terrorists myth, the odds are that your (and termy's grasp of the situation, and further educating yourselves on the truth about the basic Muslim belief structure) is about the same as you being struck on the head by a large enough to survive the passage through the atmosphere without disintegrating.

Islam, like Christianity IS a religion of peace, and like any religion, has been perverted by a very small minority into a religion of intolerance and violence (kind of like the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the wars between the protestants and Catholics, Christian extremists who support the segregation and subjugation of all non white races- Jesus was closer to black than white by the way)

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RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action - 10/18/2016 8:32:37 PM   
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All i can think of when reading this stuff is that South Park episode about Mormons... to me they are starting to sound all ridiculously the same. I guess that's a bad thing.

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