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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/16/2016 12:25:14 PM   
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You're not a comics character, then?
(As a British person of a certain age, the only time I ever heard of the things was adverts in Marvel and DC comics: the whole Harvey Milk thing passed me by at that age...)

No, but I did see something about a twinkiedick this morning. Which made me wonder about taste once again.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/16/2016 12:37:58 PM   
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Like a normal twinkie with semen instead of whatever they're normally filled with, I suppose.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/16/2016 12:44:21 PM   
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Like a normal twinkie with semen instead of whatever they're normally filled with, I suppose.

Which then got me wondering about deep fried twinkiedick

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/16/2016 12:52:35 PM   
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I didn't know you were Scottish.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/16/2016 1:36:59 PM   
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I didn't know you were Scottish.

Don't know about the Scottish thing. But that's a carnival treat around these parts.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/16/2016 2:04:08 PM   
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Deep fat frying confectionary is a thing up here, believe it or not. The deep fried Mars bar is a Scots invention.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/16/2016 2:26:04 PM   
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I give you.....FRIED BEER



If you have a smidgen of common sense, the first question that should pop in your head is "How can you deep fry a liquid?" The second…"Is beer amazing or what?" This winner of the 2010 Most Creative Award at the State Fair of Texas is basically a deep-fried ravioli made from a salty, pretzel-like dough filled with beer. The awesomeness comes from the fact that since the ravioli is only submerged in oil for about 20 seconds, it's still alcoholic so you have to be of drinking age to even buy it.
http://kitchenette.jezebel.com/the-most-ridiculous-deep-fried-foods-from-state-fairs-a-1572769682

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/16/2016 2:41:09 PM   
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And every takeaway owner in Scotland kicks themself hard...

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/16/2016 2:54:16 PM   
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And every takeaway owner in Scotland kicks themself hard...

The link includes the recipe...

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/19/2016 1:52:03 AM   
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I give you.....FRIED BEER



If you have a smidgen of common sense, the first question that should pop in your head is "How can you deep fry a liquid?" The second…"Is beer amazing or what?" This winner of the 2010 Most Creative Award at the State Fair of Texas is basically a deep-fried ravioli made from a salty, pretzel-like dough filled with beer. The awesomeness comes from the fact that since the ravioli is only submerged in oil for about 20 seconds, it's still alcoholic so you have to be of drinking age to even buy it.
http://kitchenette.jezebel.com/the-most-ridiculous-deep-fried-foods-from-state-fairs-a-1572769682


This looks awesome, but it needs single malt whiskey in it instead of beer.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/19/2016 1:55:03 AM   
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No actually, I can think of something better!

Deep fried with Frangilico and chocolate liquer inside it! Yum Yum!

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/19/2016 4:42:30 AM   
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God's sake, Greta: if you're going to fry it, why waste a decent single malt? The cheapest, nastiest blend available will do for that.
You'll be saying you put good wine in casseroles next...

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/19/2016 5:08:51 AM   
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God's sake, Greta: if you're going to fry it, why waste a decent single malt? The cheapest, nastiest blend available will do for that.
You'll be saying you put good wine in casseroles next...

Because, single malt taste better than lousy blends.
Even if you mix it with food or other drinks like coke, you can taste the difference in quality. It's too prominent! So gotta only use the good stuffs.

Now wine in casseroles is different. The wine is getting boiled into unrecognisable taste. But in that deep fried thingy, only the outside is fried, preserving the inside as it's original. And I am sure it's a quick fry.

But I will argue that if you make sangria, the quality of wine will make a difference in how good your sangria will taste.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/19/2016 5:57:16 AM   
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Your palate is in much better shape than mine if it'd be able to tell half a teaspoon of Bushmills from half a teaspoon of Whyte and Mckay through a mouthful of deep fat fried pretezel dough.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/19/2016 8:12:21 AM   
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Your palate is in much better shape than mine if it'd be able to tell half a teaspoon of Bushmills from half a teaspoon of Whyte and Mckay through a mouthful of deep fat fried pretezel dough.

Whiskey all taste different.

I bet I can also tell if it's Jim Beam or Jack Daniels or Johnny Walker.

Their taste are all so distinctive.

If the frying timing is just right, where it only crisp the outside and don't boil the whiskey inside too much. I think alot of its original taste is going to be there.

But I think I'd like more sweetness on this particular food, so I think it will taste best with bailey's or chocolate liqueur.

Or even a Whiskey cream liqueur, that is sweet and creamy and delicious!

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/19/2016 1:21:43 PM   
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Whiskey all taste different.

I bet I can also tell if it's Jim Beam or Jack Daniels or Johnny Walker.

Their taste are all so distinctive.

If the frying timing is just right, where it only crisp the outside and don't boil the whiskey inside too much. I think alot of its original taste is going to be there.

But I think I'd like more sweetness on this particular food, so I think it will taste best with bailey's or chocolate liqueur.

Or even a Whiskey cream liqueur, that is sweet and creamy and delicious!


Jim Beam, Jack Daniels and Johnny Walker are not the same kinds of whiskey you idiot!

Jim Beam is a bourbon, Jack Daniels is a sour mash, and Johnny Walker is a scotch. Only a person with dead taste buds could not tell the difference between them.

How the fuck are you even smart enough to use a computer???

Sometimes you even surprise me with some of the things you post...

In the distillation process you boil the mash to get steam that allows for the separation of the alcohol from the rest of the liquids in the mash mix, so you cannot "boil the alcohol too much."

Now depending on the type of still that is used, there are more than one kind, pot, reflux, tower and kettle, will determine the strength of the alcohol after the distillation process (which, by the way, is pretty much flavorless at this point.)

While it is true that the grains used to make the whiskey does impact the taste of the final product, it is also true that the type of still and what it is aged in has a deeper impact.

For example, scotch and Irish whiskey is made from barley, both use peat in the malting process, both use pot stills primarily.

However, Irish whiskey is distilled thrice, scotch is distilled twice, hence a completely different taste to the finished product.

Another item that impacts the taste is the wood of the casks, whether the cask is 'virgin' or previously used. For example, many distilleries around the world buy used bourbon and sour mash whiskey barrels to age their whiskeys in, thus changing the flavor of the finished product.

Another impact on flavor is whether or not the finished product is a blended whiskey or not. Blended, by definition is the mix of two or more individual batches to make the final product. This is done primarily to keep the flavor constant.

The final impact on flavor is the wood used in the barrels. While oak is the predominately used, there are some whiskeys that are made by being aged in other sweet hardwoods.

For sour mash and bourbon, the oak of choice is white oak, with a wide grain so the whiskey can pull the sugars out of the wood, hence the charring of the barrel. This is also what gives the whiskey its color.

Then there is the aging process.

The whiskey is aged in mult story buildings, with the barrels rotated between floors as it ages. In the mountains of North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and the Virginias, the whiskey was aged in the upper part of a tobacco barn as well as the root cellar and rotated from lower to upper every six months. This was done pre prohibition when just about every tobacco farmer also had a permit to make whiskey.

The reason for making whiskey was simple, it is easier to transport whiskey to town from those back hollers and coves than raw grain.

So, whatever grain was not used for livestock or family use was distilled into whiskey.

The final impact on taste is the master distiller himself.

Until the 20th century, distillers were carrying on a very distinct skill and art. Distillers would apprentice for 15 years or more before earning the title "master." Any chemist can distill alcohol (an unfortunate result of modern times in the whiskey industry) but a true master can make perfection.

In some of the older, still independent distilleries, the art is passed from father to son, and can go back 10 or more generations.

Making whiskey is not as simple as one 'reality' series has led many to believe.

I am referring to the series dealing with moonshiners, which is about as real as the easter bunny. Coming from a long line of moonshiners, I spend more time laughing at that show than anything else. Many of the stills portrayed, while looking like some home made contraption, upon closer inspection are actually commercially produced items. To avoid prosecution, each of the 'moonshiners' were licensed through the ATF as limited run commercial distillers (which kept the film crew from being arrested for violation of the aiding and abetting laws.)

So bottom line, Greta, is that boiling does not directly impact the taste of commercial whiskey, and while it could create a problem with moonshine, the way to avoid that is a 'thump' barrel, which will catch any of the mash burped into the first worm and deposit it in the bottom to allow the pure alcohol to go to the final cooling worm.

So before you make some other boldly stupid statement, try using google to keep from making yourself look like a complete idiot.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/19/2016 5:58:37 PM   
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Jim Beam, Jack Daniels and Johnny Walker are not the same kinds of whiskey you idiot!

They are obviously not the same kind duh! Are you so dumb that you can't tell that's why I say they taste different? Even all Scotch whiskeys do not taste the same. In another words. ALL whiskeys brands don't taste the same.

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Is that boiling does not directly impact the taste of commercial whiskey

But you do realise that when you deep fry, that goes beyond boiling temperatures right?

Boiling is usually 100 degrees and even below that temperature for alcohol. Deep Frying goes up to 190 degrees. In case you don't get it, we use celsius here. So I think there is a possibility of hurting the full aromas and flavours fo the whiskey in a deep frying situation if it boiled inside for too long at much higher temperatures.





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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/19/2016 7:42:00 PM   
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Jim Beam, Jack Daniels and Johnny Walker are not the same kinds of whiskey you idiot!

They are obviously not the same kind duh! Are you so dumb that you can't tell that's why I say they taste different? Even all Scotch whiskeys do not taste the same. In another words. ALL whiskeys brands don't taste the same.

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Is that boiling does not directly impact the taste of commercial whiskey

But you do realise that when you deep fry, that goes beyond boiling temperatures right?

Boiling is usually 100 degrees and even below that temperature for alcohol. Deep Frying goes up to 190 degrees. In case you don't get it, we use celsius here. So I think there is a possibility of hurting the full aromas and flavours fo the whiskey in a deep frying situation if it boiled inside for too long at much higher temperatures.







Greta, you are an idiot of biblical proportions.

for one thing, you do not fry alcohol. Jesus, do you even know how the distillation process works?

Since clearly you have no clue, let me educate you.

You start with a mash, a mixture of water, grain and sugar. To this you add yeast, which starts the fermentation process.

The fermentation process takes about 14 days, sometimes longer, sometimes a little less. For large operations, you have a vat of upwards of a 1000 gallons, for small operations, fifty gallon vats are used. These have an airlock with a window, when you see no bubbles in the airlock, the process is completed.

You then drain the liquid off the vat, leaving the solid mix in the bottom (this makes great fertilizer for gardens by the way) which yields a cloudy liquid which still has some sediments in it.

You put this in the still and bring it to a boil. The steam rises through the top of the still, with the water molecules hanging lower than the lighter alcohol molecules, which then travel through the condensing worm into a holding vat.

However, after the first distillation, there is still some water in the mixture, which is why you run it through a second process, again boiling it to create steam, which again separates water from the alcohol.

The temp that the mixture comes to a boil is about 200 degrees F, or 93.3 degrees c.

The result is a clear alcohol that is about 95% pure.

This is the point where you get that product known as moonshine, aka rot gut.

This is also the point where making true whiskey begins.

Depending on the type of liquor you are wanting, depends on the botanical you use in the maturation process, which is the step BEFORE the aging. This is where you cut the alcohol from being almost pure to the proofs you find in the liquor stores, ranging from 80 to 151 for some rums and clear spirits.

And for your information you moron, my father's family is from Madison county North Carolina, and I spent a lot of summers around small whiskey operations. Hell the family has been involved in both legal and illegal whiskey operations since they settled in those mountains.

And once more, deep frying has nothing to do with the process, you stupid fool. Deep frying is done in oil, and not with the any of the beginning process of making fucking whiskey. In fact, deep frying any part of the mash or the mash mixture would stop the fermentation process completely since it would kill the fucking yeast.


deep fry: verb
fry (food) in an amount of fat or oil sufficient to cover it completely.
"deep-fried onion rings"

Deep frying

Distillation: noun
1. the volatilization or evaporation and subsequent condensation of a liquid, as when water is boiled in a retort and the steam is condensed in a cool receiver.
2. the purification or concentration of a substance, the obtaining of the essence or volatile properties contained in it, or the separation of one substance from another, by such a process.
Whiskey distillation

Greta, do the world a favor, put your computer back in the box and take it back to the store. Your posts are making the entire population of Singapore look really bad.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/19/2016 7:50:45 PM   
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Scroll up to post #50 and you will see where she is getting the idea of deep-frying from.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/19/2016 10:44:09 PM   
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Scroll up to post #50 and you will see where she is getting the idea of deep-frying from.


When she is using the fucking terms interchangeably in her posts, and the fact that she is too fucking stupid to realize that you do not compare three totally different types of whiskeys in fucking taste.

It is like trying to compare a model t with a Porsche. The only thing they have in common is that they have four wheels and an engine.

Hell, I would be willing to guess she has no clue as to what makes each distinct, and going one step further, considering that Suntory now owns Jim Beam, Makers Mark and Knob Hill, and has 'streamlined' and made the distillation process more 'efficient,' the truth is that those three brands are almost indistinguishable from each other.


Hell, I make wine and ale at home, as well as the occasional whiskey. I have some whiskey (still in five gallon casks) that a great uncle put up in 1934 when the family owned a small distillery in Madison County NC.

To boot, the stupid fool compared used a blended scotch as a taste standard.

For christ's sake, a single malt scotch is better, the only reason to blend any whiskey is because they cant come up with a single malt that has a consistent quality. Hell blended scotches may even have corn or wheat alcohol in the mix (has to be an English influence for that blasphemy.)

FYI, if you are a single malt drinker, I do have two bottles of Dewar's I bought in 1982 while in Glasgow that I would be happy to open should you find yourself in my neck of the woods.

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