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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 5:32:44 AM   
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For christ's sake, a single malt scotch is better, the only reason to blend any whiskey is because they cant come up with a single malt that has a consistent quality. Hell blended scotches may even have corn or wheat alcohol in the mix (has to be an English influence for that blasphemy.)

Can't swear to it, but I think that was a Scottish innovation to make generic scotch for the less discriminating end of the mass market cheaper and more consistent in flavour. The more expensive blends are all mixed up from proper single malts.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 9:45:57 AM   
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For christ's sake, a single malt scotch is better, the only reason to blend any whiskey is because they cant come up with a single malt that has a consistent quality. Hell blended scotches may even have corn or wheat alcohol in the mix (has to be an English influence for that blasphemy.)

Can't swear to it, but I think that was a Scottish innovation to make generic scotch for the less discriminating end of the mass market cheaper and more consistent in flavour. The more expensive blends are all mixed up from proper single malts.



Actually, blended whiskeys, be it scotch, or any other, is a cheap way of keeping the flavor of the finished product consistent.

While Greta is partially right, each distillery does produce a unique tasting product, she evidently does not know enough to understand that each run within that distillery will have a distinct taste, even from the same still.

The reason for this is the grain used, due to the fact that there is no quality control department in nature. Grain like grapes, will taste different due to amount of rain, variations in temperature during the growing season etc.

While nothing can be done when it comes to wines, tastes of a batch of whiskey can be controlled by how long it stays at one level of an aging barn. Prior to moving the barrel up or down, a taste test of the product is made (I would love this job at any good whiskey distillery, I mean getting paid to taste whiskey from a few hundred barrels a day?)

Now, some of the older distilleries in Scotland who do sell whiskey that has aged more than fifteen years, Macallan for example, have customers that not only want a particular age, but will state a preference to a particular batch (but when you are paying over $1000 for a bottle of Scotch, you are allowed to be picky.)

Prior to my great uncle's death, and the subsequent loss of his distillation license, he had customers that would pay $300 plus for whiskey the family had put up decades ago.

While there is still quite a bit of that wonderful elixir of the gods still in the cellar of the aging barn (god if that building ever catches fire they will see a pretty blue flame in London) the family cannot legally (fucking federal government interference) sell a drop.

And my knowledge of whiskey making comes from a number of summers spent at grandmother's house working with Uncle Roosevelt at the still.

Now, for those members of these boards with better than average knowledge of working with copper, the proper way to make a tower pot still for yourselves is actually quite simple. Please remember that you can legally, with a permit, distill alcohol for use in biofuels at your home.

It seems that the ATF will trust you not to drink it.

However, the pot portion of the still determines the amount of finished product. Basically for every five gallons of mash mix, you get about 1 gallon of alcohol (which is why a stove top still is pretty much a waste of time, if you want a decent sipping whiskey.)

The seems of the still has to be soldered and riveted, and you cannot use a lead based solder, it has to be a silver base. The best rivets to use are copper.

The pot is tear drop shaped and a 1.5 or 2 inch valve is placed at the lowest point to drain the cooked mash out of the pot after the first distillation.

The condensation worm is most efficient if the diameter of the turns is at least one foot, and the longer the better (unless you want to rig a window ac unit to blow into a duct to aid in condensation) and 20 to 30 feet long.

And fair warning, the quickest way to find a still is by the smell, cooking mash has a very distinct odor.

One last point, for every pound of grain you use, unless you want a sour mash, you use between 2 or 3 pounds of sugar (another way moonshiners are caught is by the amount of sugar they buy.)

And to be honest, with the present cost of sugar, there is no way you are going to make any money selling the excess unless you are running 4 or more stills.

Now that I have given enough information for the intrepid few on these boards to google further information on the making of whiskey, I now add the disclaimer, if you get caught, you cannot claim I told anyone to do this.

FYI, whiskey can be made from any grain, rum is made from a mix of molasses and sugar, vodka is primarily patatoes, tequila is from the blue agave plant, and some of the southwestern American indians used various edible cactus to make a unique tasting product with an extremely high alcohol content.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 10:50:36 AM   
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Thank you.
You missed gin from your list, though. There's a distiller up here who can't sell their produce as whisky for a while yet (and can't sell it as poteen at all, obviously), so they've been adding botanicals to the clear unaged spirit they can churn out, and are selling that as gin while they wait five years for their first crop of scotch to mature.

I was always led to believe Cutty Sark is big in the 'States? That's a good blend, but it can be hard to find over here.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 11:21:21 AM   
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I was always led to believe Cutty Sark is big in the 'States? That's a good blend, but it can be hard to find over here.


Why they should name a blended whiskey after such a beautiful lady, I will never know. A vessel of her clean lines should have at least a moderate quality single malt named for her.

As for gin, you can make that in a bath tub, and even the 'quality' gins I have had the misfortune of drinking taste as if they were made in a bathtub thrown out of a 2 bit bordello in Liverpool. (are there any 2 bit bordellos left in Liverpool?)

Now as for domestic commercial whiskeys, I prefer the products of Heaven Hill, although there is a very good whiskey presently being made in Texas.

Non Domestic would be Seagram's, Dewar's and Canadian Club, although Black Velvet is a good moderately priced Canadian.

At present, I have five gallons of a stout english style ale and some honey mead presently working in my closet and should get 40 bottles of each when the time is right.

And I am still waiting for ATF to approve my permit to make ethanol for bio fuel (I am setting up a biodiesel system, the local eateries have yet to start charging for used fryer oil) and I swear on your mother's beard I will not put any of the alcohol in mason jars or the six five gallon oak kegs that happen to be sitting empty in my shed.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 11:29:07 AM   
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Which "quality" gins have you tried? I wouldn't use Beefeater to unblock the drains, and that seems to be a big name over there.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 11:38:58 AM   
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Spotted dick still sounds like a venereal disease.

I don't even want to think about it.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 11:50:48 AM   
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It's nastier than it sounds, believe it or not. Currants and custard...

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 11:59:06 AM   
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I could care less. The user often means rather, I couldn't care less. I could care less mean one could actually care less which means...they care somewhat.

I couldn't care less means one actually couldn't care any less which means...they don't care at all.

I always wondered which meaning do people think they are giving to what it is they actually could or couldn't care for and do they really, actually...understand the difference ?

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 1:37:41 PM   
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Which "quality" gins have you tried? I wouldn't use Beefeater to unblock the drains, and that seems to be a big name over there.


Hayman's

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 4:31:40 PM   
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Which "quality" gins have you tried? I wouldn't use Beefeater to unblock the drains, and that seems to be a big name over there.


Hayman's

All gin is merely expensive window cleaner to me.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 5:38:47 PM   
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When she is using the fucking terms interchangeably in her posts, and the fact that she is too fucking stupid to realize that you do not compare three totally different types of whiskeys in fucking taste.

Why not? We are all allowed to compare anything for fucking taste.

For example. I hate Irish and Canadian Whiskey. I won't do my deep fried puff with any of that whiskey. Infact i cook Carbonara with whiskey too, to add another dimension of flavour, goes perfect with bacon! And I wouldn't even put Irish or Canadian Whiskey in it! Love Japanese Whiskey. I compare the taste of ALL Whiskeys!

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To boot, the stupid fool compared used a blended scotch as a taste standard.

I choose 3 brands that has very clear and prominent distinction in taste.

Ya know, there are some people who can't taste the difference between Maker's Mark and Johnny Walker for example, in blind tastings.

And I am not a fan of Dewar Whiskey's, I like heavily smokey flavoured Whiskeys with strong Barley fragrance and my favourite is Laphroaig.



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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 5:49:35 PM   
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I absolutely can't stand the taste of Gin!

But I had a "single malt vodka" once. It's actually fermented from barley. It was pure vanilla flavour. And best vodka I ever tasted! It looks like vodka, taste like whiskey.

http://www.strathlevendistillers.com/valt/taste/

Nose: Barley, Sugar, Cream
Taste: Sweet Vanilla Ice Cream
Finish: Warm Melting Butter

101% accurate, one of the best vodkas ever! I would use this on chocolate brownies IF I knew how to make chocolate brownies! It's gonna be heavenly!

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/20/2016 7:30:53 PM   
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When she is using the fucking terms interchangeably in her posts, and the fact that she is too fucking stupid to realize that you do not compare three totally different types of whiskeys in fucking taste.

Why not? We are all allowed to compare anything for fucking taste.

For example. I hate Irish and Canadian Whiskey. I won't do my deep fried puff with any of that whiskey. Infact i cook Carbonara with whiskey too, to add another dimension of flavour, goes perfect with bacon! And I wouldn't even put Irish or Canadian Whiskey in it! Love Japanese Whiskey. I compare the taste of ALL Whiskeys!

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To boot, the stupid fool compared used a blended scotch as a taste standard.

I choose 3 brands that has very clear and prominent distinction in taste.

Ya know, there are some people who can't taste the difference between Maker's Mark and Johnny Walker for example, in blind tastings.

And I am not a fan of Dewar Whiskey's, I like heavily smokey flavoured Whiskeys with strong Barley fragrance and my favourite is Laphroaig.





Just about anyone with functioning taste buds can tell the difference between 3 different types of whiskey.

That is nothing to crow about, nor is it impressive.

Now, if I put 10 different brands of bourbon (or any other type of whiskey) in front of you and you could tell me which one is which, then I would be impressed.

While I am fairly accurate with the higher quality bourbons and sour mash whiskeys, as well as most others, once the quality falls below a certain point, they all taste like crap.

And, honestly, Dewar's is only my preferred at this point due to financial (and local supply) limitations, with the exception of the two bottles I purchased in 82 when I happened to be in Scotland.

However, since I have now understood you were referring to cooking something with alcohol, I must point out that by the time you get the finished product, the alcohol is pretty much non existent, since the process causes it to evaporate.

The only reason to add whiskey or wine or any other spirit to a dish is to give it a different flavor, unless you are making something that does not require heat, like no bake rum balls (my mother made these every Christmas using Bacardi 151) so you are getting the full effect of the various ingredients and all the alcohol.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/21/2016 4:41:54 AM   
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Not tried that one, so I can't comment on it. Is it a London rather than Bombay gin?

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/21/2016 5:51:24 AM   
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Me no likey "Is the glass half empty or half full?" Tis why I drink out of puddles, granted delicious Chardonnay puddles.

As for the glass dilemma, overlooking the sheer absurdity anything can be exactly 50%, quantum malarkey, evaporation, chardonnay theft...and every tenth profile saying I am a glass half full type of person deluded wretch

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/21/2016 3:49:38 PM   
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FYI, if you are a single malt drinker, I do have two bottles of Dewar's I bought in 1982 while in Glasgow that I would be happy to open should you find yourself in my neck of the woods.

I regret to say that I have never tried it. Though I have always wanted to visit your neck of the woods, and if I do make it there I will certainly take you up on that.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/21/2016 3:54:05 PM   
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Which "quality" gins have you tried? I wouldn't use Beefeater to unblock the drains, and that seems to be a big name over there.


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All gin is merely expensive window cleaner to me.

One absolutely horrific experience in high school that is still mostly a black haze to me, and gin never again passed these lips.

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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/22/2016 4:47:50 AM   
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Which "quality" gins have you tried? I wouldn't use Beefeater to unblock the drains, and that seems to be a big name over there.


Hayman's

All gin is merely expensive window cleaner to me.

One absolutely horrific experience in high school that is still mostly a black haze to me, and gin never again passed these lips.

Lightweight.


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RE: Really stupid sayings, phrases and names. - 12/22/2016 6:10:55 AM   
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Which "quality" gins have you tried? I wouldn't use Beefeater to unblock the drains, and that seems to be a big name over there.


Hayman's

All gin is merely expensive window cleaner to me.

One absolutely horrific experience in high school that is still mostly a black haze to me, and gin never again passed these lips.

Lightweight.


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