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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/5/2017 9:50:54 AM   
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as I said in the previous post, writing a personal biography often before you even see their face yet they demand a periscope up your ass in the first email is unreasonable.



It's not at all unreasonable.

It's merely different from what your preference is.

Just because you think they want to communicate online too long, doesn't make you right and them wrong.


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or they want as CB said a home run out of the park hit or nothing at all.



Which is their business.

They are under no obligation to lower their standards for you.

Just because you think their standards are too high, doesn't make you right and them wrong.

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Dont get me wrong I am not trying to short change the process, however when the convo gets to the point all the main issues are generally addressed its decision time, either move forward or move on.



You are trying to short change their process.
You insist that if the conversation reaches X point, it's decision time. They don't feel that way. They feel like they need more information first.

Consider that they are still in the process of gathering up the information they need to make a decision, it's rather hypocritical that you expect them to be the one to more forward or move on... You should be the one doing that, not them, as you've already made up your mind, and they haven't.

Just because it takes them long to reach a decision, doesn't mean that you're right, and they're wrong.

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Also its not a matter of how I feel, its what they say they are seeking in their profile if it doesnt use words that imply or express a RL relationship as part of their venue I dont bother from the start.



It is absolutely, 100%, a matter of how you feel. It's a matter of you feeling that it takes X time, X emails, X conversations, before you should move to an offline meeting, and them not agreeing with that timeline.

It's you trying to push your subjective judgment of 'when is the right time for what' onto everybody you communicate with, because you feel that if you've communicated a certain amount, you're now owed an offline date.

Though luck cupcake...

Just because somebody else requires 6 months longer, and a 100 times more, online interaction before they're willing to meet offline, doesn't make them wrong and you right.


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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/5/2017 9:57:57 AM   
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I perved your profile and you say it all up front so anyone emailing you has no excuse to complain and are definitely an exception to the rule.

Its not like I do not have pen pals so to speak but thats usually dommes that I have met in person and/or served or otherwise befriended over the years where we long since exchanged phone numbers and text back and forth etc. Its hard for me to believe that with todays availability and ease to check a criminal record and trace emails etc why would anyone presume someone who is squeaky clean would somehow pose danger to them, especially a sub who is on the receiving end of the whip? Now I can far better understand uncomfort for meeting in person, but people with 2000 miles between them are quite unlikely to stalk. So you are the exception, no doubt, and I have never run across anyone else out here making that disclaimer. (so far)

Is it that you've chosen to be willfully ignorant on this topic or is it a sincere expression that I've never managed to teach you anything regarding this? Issues like stalking, harassment, etc don't have jack to do with which person is the D and which person is the s. It happens a hell of a lot more than some people think it does, up to and including the crazy people who will travel all of those miles to stalk the object of their obsession.

You might want to change your thinking on this one.




well there is a certain dichotomy in what you say, because on one extreme we have Pro Dommes out here that paste their phone numbers on their pics and in profiles, or they give you a link to the website which has their phone listed. Then on the other side of that same coin you have the allegedly terrified to use a phone. If using a phone were so dangerous one would think there would be no pro and fin dommes around, yet their numbers grow. I dont deny that it happens and that on rare occasion someone may travel large distances but I expect that would be rare. I am not sure what you are saying is unreasonable with my position? My point with D versus s was only with regard to who is in the most danger, s's tend to be tied up, therefore are in a more dangerous position than a D. I mostly talk with D's.

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/5/2017 10:06:11 AM   
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6 months to use a telephone is ridiculous.
Its not that I give a damn one way or the other if they put a caveat in the profile saying hi guys I want an LTR but you are going to write 10 biographies over the course of the next year then I will send you a pic, and 20 more before we go to chat, and 10 years chatting before we talk in person.

Oh and btw, those first 10 have to be with chisel and stone because I am sooo scceeeeeeeeaired.

The problem instead of being up front they bait and goad you into more email and that smells like fake, poser, or study.

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/5/2017 10:16:36 AM   
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It's you trying to push your subjective judgment of 'when is the right time for what' onto everybody you communicate with, because you feel that if you've communicated a certain amount, you're now owed an offline date.

Though luck cupcake...

Just because somebody else requires 6 months longer, and a 100 times more, online interaction before they're willing to meet offline, doesn't make them wrong and you right.



The problem you gloss over is communication via any media other than face to face has 'diminishing' returns.

All inflection is lost and from my experience is a recipe for failure, phone at least you can hear the inflection in someones voice, in person you can read their body language.

I have met people that in text and n phone sounded like a match made in heaven, and in some caases even spent a good deal of time with them before really seeing what they are about.

You make good points but your version is oversimplified imo and opens the door for wasting time dodging mountains of bs. The fact that they are not up front about it is a huge red flag



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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/5/2017 10:49:01 AM   
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6 months to use a telephone is ridiculous.



It's ridiculous to you.

So stop talking to them.

Lets assume for a second that you're right, and that it's just ridiculous period.
Great, you're right... now what?

Do you think that the fact that you're right, and it's ridiculous is going to make those people talk on the phone any faster?
Nope... which means that you still need to just stop talking to them.
You are gaining absolutely nothing by continuing to talk to them in an attempt to speed up their timeline, because they're not going to.

So again: if you are not enjoying your communication with somebody because they're being 'ridiculous', move on, and stop talking to them.
The advice doesn't change whether you're right, or I'm right.

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Oh and btw, those first 10 have to be with chisel and stone because I am sooo scceeeeeeeeaired.

The problem instead of being up front they bait and goad you into more email and that smells like fake, poser, or study.


It's got nothing to do with them being scared, it's got to do with dating online being a numbers game of which you are on the losing end.

A woman gets 100x more emails than you do. Every single one of those guys who mail her want to talk on the phone as soon as possible.
If, of the all the guys who mail her every week, she has a phone call with 25 of them (which is about 10% of the emails she gets), which averages 15 minutes each, that amounts to her spending over 6 hours on the phone every week, just to 'get a first impression' of all the guys who are potentially interesting to her.

That simple does not pay off for her.

So instead, a better tactic is to continue to talk online. Emails are fast. They can be boxed out in a few minutes/seconds, they don't take planning, coordination with the other person. They can be done while doing other stuff, like watching TV, or during a quick mental break at work.
Emails can be handled in such a way where the guy puts in the majority of the effort, and it only takes the woman a short amount of times to read it, and respond.

So what women, who are overwhelmed with emails, do is make mental 'piles' off all the emails they get:

- Guys who I am not interested in at all -> turn them down/ignore them/block them
- Guys who I am interested in -> move to a phone call/offline date
- Guys who I'm not sure of yet -> ask them to write more in email, so that enough information is acquired to move them either into the ignore or call pile

See, if a woman isn't sure of you, it doesn't pay off for her to call you to confirm, because the time investment to do so is much greater for her than having you write another email. She's got 20 other guys she's also not sure about, and calling them all is just not doable.

Furthermore, unlike with a Pro-Domme (who wants you to call her more, to get money out of you, and who often has a separate business number from her personal one), giving out your phone number has consequences for a woman, because lots of guys don't stop calling once they have your number, even after you turn them down.
I've had one guy whom I moved onto a phone call stage with, who kept calling and texting me to beg me to reconsider for 18 months after I initially turned him down. I kept blocking his number, but he kept getting new numbers (or using internet services to get new numbers). He ended up calling me on over 20 different numbers, before he finally gave up.

If you assume that 1 in 50 guys are going to be like that, and the average woman has 12 guys a week she's 'not sure' of after talking to him in 3 emails, then that would amount to a new 'pesterer' for her every month.

If a woman, who is interested in moving offline, is still talking to you in email after several weeks, and several long biographical emails on your part, you are managing to continuously place yourself into the 'not sure' pile.
You're not bad enough to start ignoring you, or turn you down. But at the same time, you also haven't done anything to inspire her to want to invest any real time or effort into getting to know you better.

< Message edited by UllrsIshtar -- 1/5/2017 10:57:46 AM >


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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/5/2017 2:04:00 PM   
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I'm not sure what you're getting at, RO. You want to move at one pace, she at another. Simply incompatible. Ascribing reasons is futile. Sigh, and move on.

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/5/2017 5:02:36 PM   
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Over the course of the last year, I have ditched several 'supposed' Dommes because of 'endless emails'. I do not believe these are legitimate profiles.

They ask questions much the same as a shrink giving the outward impression they are very interested and instead of using email to identify important dealbreakers they expect you to write detailed volumes of emails about yourself supposedly in the interest of 'getting to know you'. (which cant be done beyond an introduction using text)

When asked to advance to voice they become defensive and explain how very very afraid and uncomfortable they are to go to voice. I believe these are all fake profiles and posers with ulterior motives. So the hard part is sorting out who is who and since my interest is in Domme females I put it in ask a mistress since its not clear where to draw the line and pull the plug to ditch a fake.



RealOne:

1).....They have tits (even the ones that pretend to be chics.....have "presumed" tits ergo....)....you lose (you have a "hang down").

2).....If they're real chics....they have 800,129,233 other guys that want them.....you lose (you have a "hang down").

3).....You're a guy..........you lose (you have a "hang down").

4).....They have tits.....ergo (see above).

(I hope that was helpful).

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/5/2017 6:35:00 PM   
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what I 'was' getting at before all the side arguments was that I believe these are posers, wankers, people doing studies, and I was hoping others could share information like how to better pick them out sooner than I have been able to in the past. I suppose I could do like the DOmmes out here and demand 5000 pics, their detailed life history, on the first email if they expect a response, then to be prepared to hand over the house boat and car on the first meeting, but then they get scared away due to romance overload

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/5/2017 6:36:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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6 months to use a telephone is ridiculous.



It's ridiculous to you.

So stop talking to them.




I do, and I was hoping someone would have better ideas, apparently that is the 'only' solution.

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/5/2017 8:47:31 PM   
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I'd say set guidelines of what you expect that are reasonable. If the sub can't follow those guidelines regarding timeframes for email, phone, meeting for coffee somewhere that are reasonable then you can not waste your time with someone who isn't ready or is just yanking your chain, or couldn't be your sub anyway because she can't follow you at all with something as simple as that.

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/5/2017 10:15:56 PM   
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I'd say set guidelines of what you expect that are reasonable. If the sub can't follow those guidelines regarding timeframes for email, phone, meeting for coffee somewhere that are reasonable then you can not waste your time with someone who isn't ready or is just yanking your chain, or couldn't be your sub anyway because she can't follow you at all with something as simple as that.


He's the sub, tamaka.

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/6/2017 8:42:04 AM   
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I perved your profile and you say it all up front so anyone emailing you has no excuse to complain and are definitely an exception to the rule.

Its not like I do not have pen pals so to speak but thats usually dommes that I have met in person and/or served or otherwise befriended over the years where we long since exchanged phone numbers and text back and forth etc. Its hard for me to believe that with todays availability and ease to check a criminal record and trace emails etc why would anyone presume someone who is squeaky clean would somehow pose danger to them, especially a sub who is on the receiving end of the whip? Now I can far better understand uncomfort for meeting in person, but people with 2000 miles between them are quite unlikely to stalk. So you are the exception, no doubt, and I have never run across anyone else out here making that disclaimer. (so far)

Is it that you've chosen to be willfully ignorant on this topic or is it a sincere expression that I've never managed to teach you anything regarding this? Issues like stalking, harassment, etc don't have jack to do with which person is the D and which person is the s. It happens a hell of a lot more than some people think it does, up to and including the crazy people who will travel all of those miles to stalk the object of their obsession.

You might want to change your thinking on this one.




well there is a certain dichotomy in what you say, because on one extreme we have Pro Dommes out here that paste their phone numbers on their pics and in profiles, or they give you a link to the website which has their phone listed. Then on the other side of that same coin you have the allegedly terrified to use a phone. If using a phone were so dangerous one would think there would be no pro and fin dommes around, yet their numbers grow. I dont deny that it happens and that on rare occasion someone may travel large distances but I expect that would be rare. I am not sure what you are saying is unreasonable with my position? My point with D versus s was only with regard to who is in the most danger, s's tend to be tied up, therefore are in a more dangerous position than a D. I mostly talk with D's.



You know if somebody has your IP address and a personal email, you can harass somebody long distance quite easily. Trust me I was hassled and harassed long distance, with trouble at work and all that. In Europe the anonymous burner phones don't exist, so it's much much easier to track somebody down, the combination of email address and phone number (and me mistakenly once replying with an email tied to a social media profile) did it.

Maybe you should put in your profile and the first few mails that you expect them to talk on the phone soon, you would both waste less time.

You're operating on the premise that only people who met in real life can turn into demented stalkers, fact is that somebody you meet on a site, you have no idea who you are dealing with, so some people are a bit more careful and you don't like it, if it starts with that, I'd think you'd be even more incompatible IRL.

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/6/2017 9:46:04 AM   
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well there is a certain dichotomy in what you say, because on one extreme we have Pro Dommes out here that paste their phone numbers on their pics and in profiles, or they give you a link to the website which has their phone listed. Then on the other side of that same coin you have the allegedly terrified to use a phone. If using a phone were so dangerous one would think there would be no pro and fin dommes around, yet their numbers grow. I dont deny that it happens and that on rare occasion someone may travel large distances but I expect that would be rare. I am not sure what you are saying is unreasonable with my position? My point with D versus s was only with regard to who is in the most danger, s's tend to be tied up, therefore are in a more dangerous position than a D. I mostly talk with D's.

I'm not sure at all what your topic has to do with Pro Dommes. As Ishtar pointed out to you, those folks have a greater incentive to get you moving to other means of communication sooner, rather than later, so I'm guessing that isn't the issue here.

I'm not saying that your position is unreasonable that you want to actually meet or speak with the people you are interacting with. I'm saying you are not looking at it from the other side of the slash. In doing so, you're making a lot of bad assumptions.

One thing you did was try to make the implication that the s is in potentially "more danger" because you jumped to the scenario where play is involved. Yet, your topic was about the early stages, before any kind of dynamic is in place. This simply isn't true. Both parties are taking a risk of an equal level. Just because a person has picked the 'submissive' label from the drop down menu doesn't mean they are a good or trustworthy person. It doesn't mean they will stop contacting you when you tell them to, not try to use the contact information that they have in a way that will turn into harassment, or any other thing. You seem to think this is rare, but it's really not. It happens way more often than you seem to think. Try running a poll sometime (random sample) of how many people on the forums have had this happen or personally know someone it has happened to. The results may surprise you a bit.

Keep something else in mind that Ishtar said:

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I've had one guy whom I moved onto a phone call stage with, who kept calling and texting me to beg me to reconsider for 18 months after I initially turned him down. I kept blocking his number, but he kept getting new numbers (or using internet services to get new numbers). He ended up calling me on over 20 different numbers, before he finally gave up.

That's just one. So, out of that 100 people that a women gets emails from, how many out of that hundred have done that exact thing to a person before? If, after that person finally got done bothering Ishtar for eighteen months, that person contacted me, do you think he's going to tell me what he did to her or do you think I have to try to discern if he's a decent person or not via emails? Not easy to do, because every guy who ever does something like this tries to convince other people what a 'nice guy' they are.

Even if he didn't move on to me after Ishtar, how does she know that he didn't just invent a few new screen names to get her to start talking with him all over again? He's already displayed that he's not a decent enough of an individual to leave her alone when she asked him to and took measures to contact her repeatedly, even though she blocked him. Does this sound like a person who wouldn't create alternative screen names for the purpose of contacting her?

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what I 'was' getting at before all the side arguments was that I believe these are posers, wankers, people doing studies, and I was hoping others could share information like how to better pick them out sooner than I have been able to in the past. I suppose I could do like the DOmmes out here and demand 5000 pics, their detailed life history, on the first email if they expect a response, then to be prepared to hand over the house boat and car on the first meeting, but then they get scared away due to romance overload

The crack about signing over the house and the car really isn't necessary if you want to have a decent discussion about this. I get that you are just exaggerating to make a point but have you or anyone you've ever met signed over their boat on a first meet? Let's at least be reasonable.

The thing is, I can't tell you how to differentiate whether somebody is just stringing you along or whether you've run across a person like me who is just attempting to be cautious because there has been a problem in the past. It's up to you what you want to invest before the other person is willing to take it to the next communication level. If you have a time limit of how long you'll exchange emails, then you should probably tell people that when you start talking with them. Granted, you'll probably discourage some people because, in a sense, you're not willing to work with their comfort zone and timetable.



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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/6/2017 3:49:55 PM   
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~FR~ to Real0ne. . .

Are you initially contacting Dommes from your Hidden Profile?

Because,

That would be a no-go in my book. I would not bother asking for your personal vitae.
(Thee and me would never get to that point, assuming that I don't know you from Adam.)

Are you secretive, or not forthcoming with your autobiographical data? You don't impress me as being especially guarded and you seem to express yourself very well.

Withholding of readily providing a recent pic of yourself? Playing that hide-and-seek game will (and does) get me royally pissed off, and it would be a quick hasta la vista, baby.

In other words, what is it that you are withholding or not being upfront about from the early stages of your on-line interactions?

Also, has it occurred to you that some persons are not "phone people." I am not a phone person (nor a cam person). I will text, I will do a voice verification phone call or two if and when I have admitted you into one of the outer rungs of my inner circle of friends. Having a more personal level of access to me is an earned privilege, not a given or not to be taken for granted. And yes, this does work both ways.

Perhaps none of my business, but you mentioned a 2000-mile distance. WhatTF are you doing pursuing Dommes that you have a snowball's chance in hell of ever meeting anyway??? There's a big difference between being romantic and exhibiting romantic conduct, and attempting to engage in a long-distance [on-line D/s] romance.

Enquiring minds want to know.


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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/6/2017 3:57:33 PM   
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from your Hidden Profile?

he hides it so they can't see all the lunatic posts he makes in P&R

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/6/2017 9:46:38 PM   
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oh come on diz I agreed with you once.

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/6/2017 9:58:26 PM   
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~FR~ to Real0ne. . .

Are you initially contacting Dommes from your Hidden Profile?

Because,

That would be a no-go in my book. I would not bother asking for your personal vitae.
(Thee and me would never get to that point, assuming that I don't know you from Adam.)

Are you secretive, or not forthcoming with your autobiographical data? You don't impress me as being especially guarded and you seem to express yourself very well.

Withholding of readily providing a recent pic of yourself? Playing that hide-and-seek game will (and does) get me royally pissed off, and it would be a quick hasta la vista, baby.

In other words, what is it that you are withholding or not being upfront about from the early stages of your on-line interactions?

Also, has it occurred to you that some persons are not "phone people." I am not a phone person (nor a cam person). I will text, I will do a voice verification phone call or two if and when I have admitted you into one of the outer rungs of my inner circle of friends. Having a more personal level of access to me is an earned privilege, not a given or not to be taken for granted. And yes, this does work both ways.

Perhaps none of my business, but you mentioned a 2000-mile distance. WhatTF are you doing pursuing Dommes that you have a snowball's chance in hell of ever meeting anyway??? There's a big difference between being romantic and exhibiting romantic conduct, and attempting to engage in a long-distance [on-line D/s] romance.

Enquiring minds want to know.


DreamLady



well I have a similar screening process. getting to my inner circle is rare for anyone I meet online with only a few exceptions so far. The LD works the same way, I only do LD till a comfort level is reached for both then its move together time but not before a real person whos needs interests and character is well established on the other end and I have long since met and shared several stay overs following the natural course and become very involved in nilla along with the kink etc etc etc. So all those nasties you talk about isnt me



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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/7/2017 8:31:53 AM   
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RO, I think we've just a part of your issue, courtesy of DL.

Why would you *not* expect women to go through a longer email process with you if you have your profile hidden? I'm not going to insult your intelligence here, but don't you think that alone would make any woman wonder *why*? You've got two threads going right now about how you are supposedly looking for that LTR that you say you are searching for. You want women to voice verify sooner. Don't you think a hidden profile might be hindering your success?

You're creating your own red flag.


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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/7/2017 10:15:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

oh come on diz I agreed with you once.

See? Clearly a lunatic.

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RE: Endless emails, be very afraid - 1/7/2017 10:22:08 AM   
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Don't you think a hidden profile might be hindering your success?

Do you think he would have greater success if he was contacting people from his Real0ne account?

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