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WhoreMods -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:10:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods None of which has anything to do with my point: does an abortion cost the fed more than another welfare sponger who'll spend the rest of their life hanging off the government teat? and none of your statement addressed my point which was I (and people like me who oppose abortion) should not be forced to pay for it at the point of a gun (taxes). Would you rather pay a lot more than an abortion costs for the rest of the non-aborted and unemployable child's life at the point of a gun through your taxes? It's hardly a difficult question: answer it. Then (once that's dealt with) we can discuss at which point the child becomes a useless waste of resources that should be killed for looking at somebody funny...

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:12:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Would you rather pay a lot more than an abortion costs for the rest of the non-aborted and unemployable child's life at the point of a gun through your taxes? It's hardly a difficult question: answer it. I've made my position clear and you (or anyone else) demanding a response from me is a low-percentage play.

WhoreMods -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:19:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Would you rather pay a lot more than an abortion costs for the rest of the non-aborted and unemployable child's life at the point of a gun through your taxes? It's hardly a difficult question: answer it. I've made my position clear and you (or anyone else) demanding a response from me is a low-percentage play. So the kid's better off spending its life in poverty, misery and government dependency than it is being spared all of that, then. Thought so.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:30:14 AM)
I don't grant your premise (that you've thought at all), but that to the side, much as it causes you consternation, you, trying to put words in my mouth does not define my position. Sorry/Not sorry.

Lucylastic -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:34:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Would you rather pay a lot more than an abortion costs for the rest of the non-aborted and unemployable child's life at the point of a gun through your taxes? It's hardly a difficult question: answer it. I've made my position clear and you (or anyone else) demanding a response from me is a low-percentage play. So the kid's better off spending its life in poverty, misery and government dependency than it is being spared all of that, then. Thought so. WOmen cant think for themselves over their bodies and lives, but they can manage motherhood all on their own.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:36:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic WOmen cant think for themselves over their bodies and lives, but they can manage motherhood all on their own. Once again, that's not what I said. I said the government should stop giving my tax dollars to an abortion mill (PP).

Lucylastic -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:38:04 AM)
oh please, I wasnt talking to you you are not nearly that important You obviously know little about the realities for women. Thats the important thing here

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:42:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic oh please, I wasnt talking to you you are not nearly that important You obviously know little about the realities for women. Thats the important thing here Well, I'm not a woman. That's true. I have been in relationships that produced children, though so I have had women's thoughts shared with me by (ostensibly) ladies who wanted to make their wishes known to me. Maybe that's it? Maybe they were all liars because they didn't toe the party line with regards to fetuscide?

Lucylastic -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:43:34 AM)
exactly, thank you. not a clue.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:43:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri I would also say, that, at least in the case of abortion, a woman has every right to abort her fetus... I feel abortion is wrong. I also feel I don't have the right or authority to decide that for someone else. I understand the hesitancy to use the force of law when it concerns individual choices, but i could use some help with this statement: if she has a "right" to do it, im unclear how abortion can be "wrong?" can you elaborate? are you thinking "a right to do it" is maybe synonymous with "free to do it" because the law allows for it? I have no right to force my beliefs on another person, just as someone who feels abortion isn't wrong doesn't have the right to force their belief on me. quote: quote: Thus, I completely agree that a man or woman should have the right to decide what he or she wants to do with his or her body, as long as it's not crossing another's rights. when does the baby in the womb get rights such that killing it would be in violation of those rights? I have no idea. That was brought up in another thread and it didn't get solved. Not that I think it truly ever will. But, that really is a huge sticking point in the the debate between the pro and anti abortion camps.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:52:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic exactly, thank you. not a clue. "exactly, thank you." what? All women who don't approve of fetuscide are liars?

Lucylastic -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 11:59:04 AM)
How about someone comes up with figures and facts about how many women have "late term abortions" and why. Not merely anecdotes, misconceptions and outright bullshit??? Roe vs wade places is viability at 22-24 weeks As technology improves, that figure will drop. Banning abortion at six weeks like some dicks tried, is not going to stop ANY late term abortion It wont change the realities that a miniscule number of women have LTA for any reason other than fetal anomalies or the health of the mother.

Lucylastic -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:01:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic exactly, thank you. not a clue. "exactly, thank you." what? All women who don't approve of fetuscide are liars? Your mind reading skills are stoned. NO, YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE there is that clear????

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:02:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic How about someone comes up with figures and facts about how many women have "late term abortions" and why. Not merely anecdotes, misconceptions and outright bullshit??? Roe vs wade places is viability at 22-24 weeks As technology improves, that figure will drop. Banning abortion at six weeks like some dicks tried, is not going to stop ANY late term abortion It wont change the realities that a miniscule number of women have LTA for any reason other than fetal anomalies or the health of the mother. I am absolutely okay with abortion saving the life of the mother (as long as it's a last resort), but I'm curious: How are you defining "fetal anomalies"?

DesideriScuri -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:02:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Contrary to the far right and anti abortion propaganda, federal funding provided to planned parenthood and other similar agencies, by FEDERAL law cannot be used in paying for abortions. The funding can be used for any other medically necessary procedure or medication such as cancer screenings, std checks and other non abortion issues including providing birth control. Also contrary to the pro choice members of congress, only 3% of planned parenthood services are abortions. I'm not sure why you're pointing all that out. I know there are laws opposing Federal funds paying for abortions. And, it should not shock any one with two brain cells to rub together here, I support those laws. If one were to (entirely made numbers coming) perform 8,000 abortions in a year and hand out 800,000 condoms, you could say that abortions were only 1% of the services you performed. http://www.heritage.org/health-care-reform/report/disentangling-the-data-planned-parenthood-affiliates-abortion-services https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/08/12/for-planned-parenthood-abortion-stats-3-percent-and-94-percent-are-both-misleading/ http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/05/07/_3_percent_of_planned_parenthood_s_services_are_abortion_but_what_about.html https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/planned-parenthood-abortion-services/

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:06:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri (emphasis by DaddySatyr) I'm not sure why you're pointing all that out. I know there are laws opposing Federal funds paying for abortions. And, it should not shock any one with two brain cells to rub together ... I suspect I'll be receiving the customary residuals? [:D] Peace, Michael

WhoreMods -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:08:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr I don't grant your premise (that you've thought at all), but that to the side, much as it causes you consternation, you, trying to put words in my mouth does not define my position. Sorry/Not sorry. You're not going to stand behind your statements, maybe you should stop making them.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:11:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods You're not going to stand behind your statements, maybe you should stop making them. If you can prove that I said: quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods So the kid's better off spending its life in poverty, misery and government dependency than it is being spared all of that, then. Thought so. I'll agree that I'm not standing behind my statements. Until then, you're putting words in my mouth.

WhoreMods -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:12:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods You're not going to stand behind your statements, maybe you should stop making them. If you can prove that I said: quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods So the kid's better off spending its life in poverty, misery and government dependency than it is being spared all of that, then. Thought so. I'll agree that I'm not standing behind my statements. Until then, you're putting words in my mouth. What are you suggesting as an alternative to killing the kid in the womb, then? Reconcile this with your aversion to your taxes paying to prevent the rest of its life sponging off the system.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:12:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Your mind reading skills are stoned. NO, YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE there is that clear???? No "mind reading". I asked you a question. Simple, really.

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