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DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:14:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods What are you suggesting as an alternative to killing the kid in the womb? Maybe you missed where I posted support for "safety nets"? It's not too far back.

WhoreMods -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:18:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods What are you suggesting as an alternative to killing the kid in the womb? Maybe you missed where I posted support for "safety nets"? It's not too far back. Define a safety net in this context. A definition that doesn't make it look like you're trotting out a stock evasion that has no meaning at all would be good.

Lucylastic -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:21:06 PM)
argumentum ad hominem is not a question.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:21:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic How about someone comes up with figures and facts about how many women have "late term abortions" and why. Not merely anecdotes, misconceptions and outright bullshit??? Anecdote? Where? Misconception? Where? Outright bullshit? Where? quote: Roe vs wade places is viability at 22-24 weeks As technology improves, that figure will drop. Banning abortion at six weeks like some dicks tried, is not going to stop ANY late term abortion It wont change the realities that a miniscule number of women have LTA for any reason other than fetal anomalies or the health of the mother. I'm not sure why you're focusing on LTA's. Not even sure why you decided to respond to me with a response that has nothing to do with what I wrote, either. I accept your assertion that RvW does place viability at 22-24 weeks, but that doesn't mean squat, to be honest. Will RvW change that when, as you've also asserted, technological improvements will change that timeframe? Does RvW decide when a fetus is a human person who has inalienable rights? I agree that banning abortions after 6 weeks won't impact the number of LTA's. I believe abortions to be wrong, and I would have a huge problem if a woman decided to abort a baby that she and I made together. To that end, I've been snipped, so the risk of that problem arising is, effectively, zero. I've already stated I can't even imagine the mental anguish a woman (or her man, if he's involved) would go through to have to choose between her baby or her own life (the LTA thing you're on about).

Lucylastic -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:22:40 PM)
actually it was a fr

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:25:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic argumentum ad hominem is not a question. There's was no "ad hominem" at all. That's, generally, your stock-in-trade. Again: I asked a question for clarification. You answered it. All through.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:25:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic actually it was a fr Without the 'fr,' I'm sure you can see how it might be taken not as an fr. However, I accept that was your intention. All good.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:27:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Define a safety net in this context. A definition that doesn't make it look like you're trotting out a stock evasion that has no meaning at all would be good. Well, again, I don't grant your premise ("A definition that doesn't make it look like you're trotting out a stock evasion that has no meaning at all would be good.") I've already given all the definition I care to give and I refer you back to my statement about "demanding answers" from me.

WhoreMods -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:33:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Define a safety net in this context. A definition that doesn't make it look like you're trotting out a stock evasion that has no meaning at all would be good. Well, again, I don't grant your premise ("A definition that doesn't make it look like you're trotting out a stock evasion that has no meaning at all would be good.") I've already given all the definition I care to give and I refer you back to my statement about "demanding answers" from me. So you refuse to give answers, and feel that anybody who asks you provide some grounding for your platitudes is being an unreasonable meaniepants, then. Not really a surprise given your past form.

Lucylastic -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:37:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic actually it was a fr Without the 'fr,' I'm sure you can see how it might be taken not as an fr. However, I accept that was your intention. All good. yes I do see how, so thankyou:)

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:40:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods So you refuse to give answers, and feel that anybody who asks you provide some grounding for your platitudes is being an unreasonable meaniepants, then. Not really a surprise given your past form. You have an over-active imagination, indeed.

WhoreMods -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:43:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods So you refuse to give answers, and feel that anybody who asks you provide some grounding for your platitudes is being an unreasonable meaniepants, then. Not really a surprise given your past form. You have an over-active imagination, indeed. Answer the question of why you resent paying for an abortion but have no issue with funding somebody to spend their life on welfare, and i can stop exercising it.

Lucylastic -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:45:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic argumentum ad hominem is not a question. There's was no "ad hominem" at all. That's, generally, your stock-in-trade. Again: I asked a question for clarification. You answered it. All through. All women who don't approve of fetuscide are liars? is an adhom, simple Fetal anomalies run from anything from heart or brain issues issues, encephaly, down syndrome, non growth of kidneys, or other organs, etc etc, IM sure if you would like a more "exact list" google is your friend.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 12:56:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic All women who don't approve of fetuscide are liars? is an adhom, simple Fetal anomalies run from anything from heart or brain issues issues, encephaly, down syndrome, non growth of kidneys, or other organs, etc etc, IM sure if you would like a more "exact list" google is your friend. I was asking how *YOU* were defining the term, so Google probably wouldn't have helped unless you're published somewhere on the interwebz?

DaddySatyr -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 1:26:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Answer the question of why you resent paying for an abortion but have no issue with funding somebody to spend their life on welfare, and i can stop exercising it. I might just do that ... in my own good time; not when someone on the interwebz *demands* it.

bounty44 -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 2:37:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri I have no right to force my beliefs on another person, just as someone who feels abortion isn't wrong doesn't have the right to force their belief on me. i see an overwhelming amount of law as the favoring or granting of one side's belief as opposed to another, and all of the law represents "force." at some point, it really is necessary to decide when the baby has rights isn't it?

bounty44 -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 2:39:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods What are you suggesting as an alternative to killing the kid in the womb? Maybe you missed where I posted support for "safety nets"? It's not too far back. hey whoremods, they also have this nifty thing called "motherhood" and "responsibility"---two pretty good principles that have served society well for, well, ever since its been around. also---looking at something you wrote on the prior page, something about a "lifetime in poverty" wasn't it? I know the comrades like to believe they are mind readers, but I didn't know seeing into the future was in their repertoire also. maybe you should you play the horses?

Lucylastic -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 3:10:42 PM)
Parental responsibility, includes men and their "responsibilities" to be a father, not just a sperm donor or dollar donor.. Forcing women to give birth is beyond anyones "responsibility"

jlf1961 -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 3:42:33 PM)
Of course, there is that taboo option of putting the baby up for adoption.....

JVoV -> RE: Congress pass new abortion law to ban late term abortion (12/14/2017 3:45:22 PM)
Even adoption can come with a lifetime of regrets.

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