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Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 8:49:03 AM   
Spellbinder83


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Just like the title says. Is something wrong with my profile? My approach? I hardly ever can get anyone to message me back.

EDIT - Slaves seem to hate one-liners, so I put the first few questions I want to ask them. I don't do forms, but the questions are usually similar. "Hello (name/title), how are you doing? What are your limits? Preferred kinks? How is your gag reflex? Do you have any objections to Relyfe Programming? Do not consent unless you know what it is." And anything profile specific. However profiles are generally generic and non-specific.

EDIT - this might help - http://collarspace.com/personals/v/678060/details.htm

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 9:10:29 AM   
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It's likely your message rather than your profile. Yeah, yeah, I am sure you think your messages are the proverbial "well thought out" ones, but based on your profile text, I doubt that immensely.

Also try a pic that doesn't make you look like a kid in gym class.

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 9:23:04 AM   
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I'm way fat in all my other pics. Can't take another because I can't walk currently. Recovering from a stroke. EDIT - What's wrong with my profile text?

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 9:38:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spellbinder83

Just like the title says. Is something wrong with my profile? My approach? I hardly ever can get anyone to message me back.

EDIT - Slaves seem to hate one-liners, so I put the first few questions I want to ask them. I don't do forms, but the questions are usually similar. "Hello (name/title), how are you doing? What are your limits? Preferred kinks? How is your gag reflex? Do you have any objections to Relyfe Programming? Do not consent unless you know what it is." And anything profile specific. However profiles are generally generic and non-specific.

EDIT - this might help - http://collarspace.com/personals/v/678060/details.htm

Question... If you were to meet a person at a kink event, is that how you would approach them? Just walk up to them and start asking deeply personal questions about their sexual habits and preferences?

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 9:41:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


quote:

ORIGINAL: Spellbinder83

Just like the title says. Is something wrong with my profile? My approach? I hardly ever can get anyone to message me back.

EDIT - Slaves seem to hate one-liners, so I put the first few questions I want to ask them. I don't do forms, but the questions are usually similar. "Hello (name/title), how are you doing? What are your limits? Preferred kinks? How is your gag reflex? Do you have any objections to Relyfe Programming? Do not consent unless you know what it is." And anything profile specific. However profiles are generally generic and non-specific.

EDIT - this might help - http://collarspace.com/personals/v/678060/details.htm

Question... If you were to meet a person at a kink event, is that how you would approach them? Just walk up to them and start asking deeply personal questions about their sexual habits and preferences?

Well no, but this is a dating website. We know what we're here for. What should I say?

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 9:46:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Spellbinder83


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


quote:

ORIGINAL: Spellbinder83

Just like the title says. Is something wrong with my profile? My approach? I hardly ever can get anyone to message me back.

EDIT - Slaves seem to hate one-liners, so I put the first few questions I want to ask them. I don't do forms, but the questions are usually similar. "Hello (name/title), how are you doing? What are your limits? Preferred kinks? How is your gag reflex? Do you have any objections to Relyfe Programming? Do not consent unless you know what it is." And anything profile specific. However profiles are generally generic and non-specific.

EDIT - this might help - http://collarspace.com/personals/v/678060/details.htm

Question... If you were to meet a person at a kink event, is that how you would approach them? Just walk up to them and start asking deeply personal questions about their sexual habits and preferences?

Well no, but this is a dating website. We know what we're here for. What should I say?

What would you say if you approached someone at a kink event?

Your questions indicate zero interest in the actual person, just in sex. Kinky dating is still a relationship between people, and people require interpersonal interaction. Your questions sounds as if a sexual robot would suffice.

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 9:55:36 AM   
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I honestly got more replies with one-liners. I ask the same questions...one at a time. It seems best to get them out of the way. I feel...inexperienced.

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 9:58:17 AM   
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Do not take advantage of the people on here with your lies.

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 10:02:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Drakvampire

Do not take advantage of the people on here with your lies.

I'm not?

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 10:29:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Spellbinder83

I honestly got more replies with one-liners. I ask the same questions...one at a time. It seems best to get them out of the way. I feel...inexperienced.


The thread title suggests that you are unhappy with the lack of response you get from messages.

Your first post says that you can't hardly get anyone to message you back.

It goes on to say that it's obvious slaves don't like one liners.

Now you say that you got more replies with one liners.

You seem confused.

You also seem unwilling to consider suggestions that you have asked for.

So just keep doing what you are doing then, and good luck with that.

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 10:41:59 AM   
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You are.

You have approached this forum with fallacy after fallacy.
If you had approached it openly and honestly I may have chipped in.

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 10:54:01 AM   
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If you look very different than your picture, how do you think your first meeting with someone will go? If a profile picture depicts a young attractive male, then he turns out to be overweight, I would wonder what else they're not telling the truth about.

Message the women who interest you as if you're speaking to a person and not a fetish delivery service. Let them guide you into the nitty-gritty questions when they're ready.

Dude, this isn't a dating site or a place to hook up to get your dick wet. Just because women are subs or slaves doesn't make them easy.



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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 12:00:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsLadySue

If you look very different than your picture, how do you think your first meeting with someone will go? If a profile picture depicts a young attractive male, then he turns out to be overweight, I would wonder what else they're not telling the truth about.

Message the women who interest you as if you're speaking to a person and not a fetish delivery service. Let them guide you into the nitty-gritty questions when they're ready.

Dude, this isn't a dating site or a place to hook up to get your dick wet. Just because women are subs or slaves doesn't make them easy.



I cant get my dick wet. It works, but I'm recovering from a stroke. Which I tell all the girls about when they make it far enough (around message 2).

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 12:06:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsLadySue

If you look very different than your picture, how do you think your first meeting with someone will go? If a profile picture depicts a young attractive male, then he turns out to be overweight, I would wonder what else they're not telling the truth about.

Tell me, how much should I weigh in that photo? Because I don't know. You tell me and I'll change it.

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 12:12:02 PM   
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Half this forum hates me (oh come it’s not 75%) and yet I will defend them all on here, save you.

Have one of these girls you boast about contact me.

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 12:15:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Drakvampire

Half this forum hates me

You're very hateable. I will do nothing you ask.

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 1:01:29 PM   
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WS is right.

I'm not an s-type, but I'm a female. Your approach is that of a person who thinks they are going to come across a cock-gobbling female who has the attitude of 'any cock will do'. Now, I know there are some things that make people believe there are just TONS of women who are willing to open their mouths for any of the ~3.5 people on the planet with a penis, there's nothing about this that should lead anyone to believe that your penis is the one that brings such desire out.

You contradict yourself. (Save one. We'll get to that in a sec.)

You have already admitted that you would NOT approach a woman in this way in real life. If that is the case, why would you approach a woman that way electronically? When you do, WHY would you be surprised when you get the same crap results as you would expect when the woman is in front of you?

You say it's a dating site. Have you ever asked a woman on a date, and thrown in there, 'hey, btw, how's your gag reflex?" If you propositioned a hundred women for a "date," how many of them do you think would accept the invitation, when the whole thing pushed up to the forefront is that you want your cock blown? Most women, kinky or not, want something more than that. You are not providing the 'something more'.

You are completely incorrect in your statement of 'we ALL know what we're here for.' You do not consider in the slightest that people might not was sex or kink as the forefront of their interactions. Believe it or not, some people want emotional attachments. However, since the implication of your words is about you getting your dick serviced, you're blowing from the beginning.

(I promised I would.) You ARE correct about being inexperienced and in this particular instance, I'm not even talking about the lack of reference to topping, Dominating, or other kink. (Something you happen to make no reference to in your profile, except knowledge of your one particular kink.) However, there is good news for you. There is a TON of reference material out there about how to be more successful in regard to response rate when contacting people online. On this site alone, there are (I don't know how many) threads related to the subject of 'why won't women answer email?' The cool part about such threads is that women will tell you what type of approach they respond to. Always listen to your target audience. They know what you want to know and are giving you the information to help you get a better response rate.

Personally, I'm also a fan of the research that OKCupid has done over the years. They did data analysis on what types of approaches were more likely to get a response based on actual replies. Everything from which greeting, (hi, hello, good morning, salutations, etc) is most likely to get a response to things like what were the top ten unique words in the body of a message that had the highest percentage of replies for a first contact. (For the Walking Dead fans, the word "zombie" has consistently stayed in the top five over the last few years.) References to what type of music a person listens to, which movie they last watched in a theater, and what book they have read in the last year get vastly better response rates. They discuss what kind of first contact messages are considered too long or too short, the importance of at least one of the sentences being in the form of a non-sexually related question, and is there something related to the profile of the person being contacted in the message. Tons of data that a person can use to improve their approach. So much data, in fact, that they published a book.

One other matter that has to be considered is your medical condition. Kinky people are still people and some people will not consider dating people with a physical disability. This can effect your response rate as well. What you might consider doing is looking at your response rate when compared to the average and see whether you are doing well or not as compared to other men in your category.



ETA - If I am correct, the profile literally changed in the amount of time it took me to write a response. I'm going to leave my post as is.

If the OP were to ask me, I'd guess (roughly) it's a weight of a buck 25, or a buck 30. A person without the ability to weigh themselves can make an estimate of what they weigh depending on what size pants they wear. Unlike women's clothes that vary from size to size depending on the manufacturer, most male clothing (pants, suits) are measured in specific inches. There are charts you can use that, when you supply clothing size in relation to your height, you can get an approximate weight.




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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 1:19:50 PM   
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Confession time! I know you all have been looking forward to this. Well it's not that kind of confession. I really did have a stroke. Shit I almost died. Wanna see the feeding tube and trach scars? My power chair from the ins company? My food that still needs to be pureed in a processor? I really cant walk...guess you'll have to take that one on faith. That pic was taken...I have no clue. But guess what? I really look like that! I'm a freak and have always been blessed with young looks. I'm freaking Dick Clark. Now, my weight. Well, some get to declare victory here. I have no idea what I weigh. Everything on my profile is true, I keep losing and all that. I wont leave my house till I recover, and I'm not sure when that will be. I can tell you an estimate I heard. A year. (Sometime in March) A freaking year. That is freaking demoralizing. Anyway, I have to recover. I want to get a new job. A place to live. By the time all that happens, what will I look like? That picture. if I was gaining I'd suck it up and post a fat pic. Is that dishonest on the surface? Sure. But at it's core, is it the truth? Also yes. So there. Now who thinks I'm a liar and wants to see my trach scar? I'll post it.

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RE: Improving Reply Rates - 10/15/2017 1:45:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

ETA - If I am correct, the profile literally changed in the amount of time it took me to write a response. I'm going to leave my post as is.

If the OP were to ask me, I'd guess (roughly) it's a weight of a buck 25, or a buck 30. A person without the ability to weigh themselves can make an estimate of what they weigh depending on what size pants they wear. Unlike women's clothes that vary from size to size depending on the manufacturer, most male clothing (pants, suits) are measured in specific inches. There are charts you can use that, when you supply clothing size in relation to your height, you can get an approximate weight.




You're generous. That photo is after lots of weight loss (and some gain). I cant remember the last time I weighhed less than 170.

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