Milesnmiles
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ORIGINAL: Greta75 So are you saying children should be warn that IF they said "No" to a man, a man will not interprete it as No? And that they need to take extra measures to protect themselves from men? I have no idea where you came up with this at. First I wasn't even talking about a child's NO but about a child's YES and that a minors yes is not yes but should be considered as a no by adults and so the simple "yes means yes and no, no" is fallacious in the case of minors as well as in many other cases. In other words, when I was a minor I would have said YES and given my CONSENT to several of my FEMALE teachers in a heart beat but even if I did those FEMALE teachers should have known better and considered it a big NO and not a yes. quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 The reality is. The good guys will know how to take No as No as simplistic as that. As I have pointed out several times already, the simple "yes means yes and no,no" can fail here as well. There are adult slaves that want their "no" never to be accepted as no, so do we neigh such ones their sexuality? The bad guys will come up with a gazillion excuses how she doesn't mean No when she says No. And there are bad guys out there. My advice to any women is, or kids is that, make sure you get a bruise from him, to prove that you didn't want it and he forced it upon you. With no physical injuries, people might doubt you and accuse you of being consensual. One of the reason is, let's say you did agree to hang out in his home when he invited you back for a drink. But maybe you thought you just want to chill for a drink and not wanna go further but the guy mistake it as a full invitation and sending mix messages. Then you better fight and claw his eyes out to prove you were not consensual. Or the law will not be on your side. As too many males got away with rape because the woman didn't fight back physically and only said No verbally which cannot be proven. I mean, I just remembered when I was 17 and having sex with a 21 yr old. I told him, this means nothing to me, it's just sex, PRIOR to engaging, I told him I don't want him to think that this means anything. But after the sex, he told me I clearly have feelings for him. And I said, um...., no..., I literally meant what I said when it's just sex to me. And like, he said I'm in denial and fucking lying. That I obviously have feelings for him. That my actions cannot lie. And I'm like, "Look, if I had feelings for you, I'd tell you! I have no reason to pretend I do not have it!" It's just sometimes men just get it in their head about things and so convinced of something that is not true. It's like my other thread about my issue with my male friend, and someone is insisting I am reacting out of romantic feelings. That's such a male perception. It's like me and my BFF back in the equivalent of a high school, where the whole school thinks we are lying about not dating. Because we were BFF. But we were not interested in each other that way. We were just best friends. I also think that when a woman "friendzones" a man, but if she really love him as friend, she can be perceived as interested. But she is not. Sounds like good advice to me, although I'm not sure why you seem to think only men are the bad people, I'm pretty sure that there may be on or two bad women out there that do some of these things as well.
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