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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 5:04:10 AM   
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I have serious problems with Trump and W, both being equally useful idiots but nothing could surpass Bush's photo

Op at a elem. school after being told of an attack on NY.

His first term is yet young: he's got plenty of time yet to arrange a fuck up that makes that look vaguely competent.

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 5:28:41 AM   
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An alert goes out to an entire U.S. state that an ICBM will hit in minutes, and during the ENTIRE 38 minutes from the alert, to the announcement it was an error, the President of the United States continues to play golf.

People are terrified, and get NO help, or reassurance from their President.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/hawaii-missile-alert-donald-trump-response-twitter-false-alarm-tweet-michael-wolff-fire-fury-latest-a8158241.html

Instead, he tweets about Michael Wolff. Just in terms of completely failed leadership, he may have even exceeded Bush.




All of this hysterical anti-Trump insanity may well backfire on you poor little melting snowflakes

And if it does, it will be hilarious

Have you heard? Maxine Waters wants to impeach because he allegedly said Haiti is a "shithole"



(That would be great)

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 6:58:48 AM   
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An alert goes out to an entire U.S. state that an ICBM will hit in minutes, and during the ENTIRE 38 minutes from the alert, to the announcement it was an error, the President of the United States continues to play golf.

People are terrified, and get NO help, or reassurance from their President.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/hawaii-missile-alert-donald-trump-response-twitter-false-alarm-tweet-michael-wolff-fire-fury-latest-a8158241.html

Instead, he tweets about Michael Wolff. Just in terms of completely failed leadership, he may have even exceeded Bush.




All of this hysterical anti-Trump insanity may well backfire on you poor little melting snowflakes

And if it does, it will be hilarious

Have you heard? Maxine Waters wants to impeach because he allegedly said Haiti is a "shithole"



(That would be great)

Well from 1914 to 1934 after the US failed to recognize the new Haitian govt. and for 62 years,
occupied Haiti. The US had left Haiti to the French to steal/sell Haitian sugar, indigo and coffee.

The United States’ role in both the coups against Aristide have been disputed. Aristide, among others,
claim the United States was directly involved in his forced removal from the country in 2004.
The Haitian military and the Haitian National Intelligence Service, set up and funded by the CIA in the
1980s, were both key players in the coups against Aristide.

Can't have too much democracy, that raises labor costs.

Haiti is basically a prison labor camp for western business and of course, are paid...as little as possible.
How does the poorest country in the western hemisphere, so exploited, cheated and oppressed become anything but a shit hole ?

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 7:08:03 AM   
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presidential leadership over puerto rico
100 days, half the island is without power. And wont be fixed until at least may...
where is and was "that presidential" leadership.


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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 7:08:11 AM   
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Even if your lies were true, it doesn't matter - because President Trump had nothing to do with Haiti, other than calling it what it is.





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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 7:25:08 AM   
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I didnt suggest trump had anything to do with haiti
try again


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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 7:28:24 AM   
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I didnt suggest trump had anything to do with haiti
try again



You and MrRodgers are one and the same?

That makes sense

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 7:36:37 AM   
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try to make sense
I didnt suggest trump had anything to do with haiti??
Please show otherwise.
you are batting a zero again mr "hero"

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 7:54:51 AM   
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try to make sense
I didnt suggest trump had anything to do with haiti??
Please show otherwise.
you are batting a zero again mr "hero"


Lucy, are you referring to this post by Bosco:
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Even if your lies were true, it doesn't matter - because President Trump had nothing to do with Haiti, other than calling it what it is.


If so, that was in response to MrRodgers, and not you.

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 8:02:51 AM   
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The liberals in Hawaii screwed this up. Trump had nothing to do with it. Get a life;

Only a fucking Mentard wouldn't realize that NORAD has nothing to do with the state of Hawaii.
They are part of the military who works for the Commander in Chief.
Yaknow...............the President.


Except, it wasn't NORAD, but an agency of the State of Hawaii that made the error.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/01/14/hawaii-false-alarm-should-alarm-us-all-editorials-debates/1032611001/
    quote:

    Hawaii's emergency management administrator, Vern Miyagi, said an unnamed state worker clicked the wrong screen button during a shift change and "this guy feels bad, right?"


http://www.dw.com/en/hawaii-officials-mistakenly-warn-of-inbound-ballistic-missile/a-42139204

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/13/hawaii-emergency-officials-say-ballistic-missile-threat-alert-was-mistake.html
    quote:

    After Hawaii emergency officials confirmed that an alert about an inbound ballistic missile was a mistake, they said the employee who pushed the wrong button feels awful about the panic-inducing incident.

    Vern Miyagi, who oversees the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency (EMA), said at a news conference late Saturday that the civil defense employee who pushed the wrong button regrets what took place.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hawaii-missile-alert-employee-reassigned_us_5a5c5b74e4b04f3c55a3fd19?section=us_us-news




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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 8:20:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

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try to make sense
I didnt suggest trump had anything to do with haiti??
Please show otherwise.
you are batting a zero again mr "hero"


Lucy, are you referring to this post by Bosco:
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Even if your lies were true, it doesn't matter - because President Trump had nothing to do with Haiti, other than calling it what it is.


If so, that was in response to MrRodgers, and not you.

yes, you are right, I missed who it was in reply to.


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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 9:19:28 AM   
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presidential leadership over puerto rico
100 days, half the island is without power. And wont be fixed until at least may...
where is and was "that presidential" leadership.


It's dealing with the water crisis in Flint, MI.

Oh wait, he's not doing that either. Too many black people there for Cheeto Hitler to care about I guess.

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 2:03:19 PM   
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Ok, so nothing happened. US Military advisors knew that nothing was happening.

I'm honestly glad that nobody told Trump, since there was nothing to tell. He could have overreacted to that nothing.

And as a bleeding heart liberal, I still support Dubbya staying in the classroom with those children on 9/11. He was safer in Florida than he would've been at the White House that day, since it was a target.

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 2:45:20 PM   
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why hasnt he tweeted about what happened in hawaii?


He doesn't fully understand what happened in Hawaii yet. (And frankly he doesn't give a shit). Here was a legitimate national crisis (an entire state population thinking they were going to die in the next few minutes), which required competent leadership. There was NONE.

Had Obama still been president. He would have been IMMEDIATELY on TV and Radio (in his home state), reassuring the population.

Lol, sure pops. Old lead from behind himself would have done exactly what he did during Benghazi, gone to bed.

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 4:18:09 PM   
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I'm honestly glad that nobody told Trump, since there was nothing to tell. He could have overreacted to that nothing.

And that's a sure sign that he's trustworthy with the powers he enjoys as president, of course.


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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 4:43:40 PM   
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The water problem in Flint, MI was going on long before Trump was president. In case you didn't know, presidents of either party have little control of what goes on in small towns in the US. It would be impossible.

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 5:02:04 PM   
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The water problem in Flint, MI was going on long before Trump was president. In case you didn't know, presidents of either party have little control of what goes on in small towns in the US. It would be impossible.


You're missing the point

steph is demanding an all-powerful leader like her hero Joseph Stalin to micromanage everyone's life, down to every water tap in every home

That, or she's just a retard

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 5:44:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

The water problem in Flint, MI was going on long before Trump was president. In case you didn't know, presidents of either party have little control of what goes on in small towns in the US. It would be impossible.


You're missing the point

steph is demanding an all-powerful leader like her hero Joseph Stalin to micromanage everyone's life, down to every water tap in every home

That, or she's just a retard



Back on topic.

For 38 minutes, the entire state of Hawaii was planning to die in the next few minutes.
Our President continued to play golf, and to my knowledge has never addressed the state of Hawaii directly, other than to say, it was an error in Hawaii.

If Obama were President, he would have been immediately on national TV and radio, assuring the people of Hawaii, and the US as a whole are safe.

The difference between leadership, and what we have with our current President.

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 5:56:26 PM   
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Did anyone honestly expect anything remotely Presidential from Trump?!? The guy has been a Class A fucktard ever since he set foot in the White House. Id honestly have been surprised as fuck if he put down the damned golf club, looked up from his Twitter, and actually did the fucking job he was hired to do.

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RE: Presidential Leadership - 1/15/2018 6:06:08 PM   
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An alert goes out to an entire U.S. state that an ICBM will hit in minutes, and during the ENTIRE 38 minutes from the alert, to the announcement it was an error, the President of the United States continues to play golf.

People are terrified, and get NO help, or reassurance from their President.


38 mins to announcement there is an error. This is Trump's fault?

Wow! The things people blame Trump for.

Yes he should continue to play golf. There is no emergency. And it was only 38 minutes.

It's not like, it was hours.

38 minutes seem very fast response to announcing it was an error even by my country's efficient standards for a tiny place. Also if you really think about it. It's only 38 minutes. So from the mistake being made, how long would it take for it to be made known to Trump about this and a proper explanation about what is happening. 38 minutes is a damn short time. Did the people who fuck up delay relaying this message to Trump?

But the real question instead of blaming Trump for this, WHO IS INCHARGE of the announcement? And how did such an error occur? A whole department needs to be fired for such a fuck up.



Greta... You COMPLETELY missed the point of my post. No one said that the duration of 38 minutes was Trump's fault. You are responding to a strawman argument.

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