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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/14/2023 4:48:09 PM   
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lol... "Lies and mindless spew"????? Please identify a single thing I said, which is factually inaccurate.


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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/14/2023 6:20:11 PM   
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lol... "Lies and mindless spew"????? Please identify a single thing I said, which is factually inaccurate.


Still waiting




You'll wait a long time, before I can begin to take you seriously. Your queen chose every member of that witch hunt show trial circus, all the while howling about "threats to democracy"

And you're okay with that. There are no words for my level of contempt

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/14/2023 6:36:46 PM   
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On a more positive note, there appears to be a glimmer of hope that we may yet learn the whole truth regarding what led up to the events that occurred on the original Patriots Day rally, January 6th 2020

McCarthy says he's open to releasing Jan. 6 security footage







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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/14/2023 7:27:48 PM   
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McCarthy already said Trump was responsible for the events of Jan 6 though.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/13/mccarthy-trump-responsibility-capitol-riot-458975

To me, it seems like it's just time to move on, politically. This attempt to "own the libs" is just going to continue the back and forth, and keep Jan 6 in the minds of the voters. If Donald Trump is judged by his actions that day, I don't think he'll get voted in for a second chance. But maybe that's McCarthy's goal. Maybe he wants Trump to lose in the primary, so Republicans might have a chance at the general.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/15/2023 6:37:30 AM   
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"Time to move on" because we're about to find out why hag Pelosi barred Jim Jordon from her personal little private witches coven

"Why did Pelosi fail to provide adequate security as President Trump requested" is a question that can now be pursued

Jim Jordan Goes NUCLEAR After Pelosi Blocks Him From Jan. 6 Committee

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/15/2023 7:42:04 AM   
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lol... "Lies and mindless spew"????? Please identify a single thing I said, which is factually inaccurate.


Still waiting




You'll wait a long time, before I can begin to take you seriously. Your queen chose every member of that witch hunt show trial circus, all the while howling about "threats to democracy"

And you're okay with that. There are no words for my level of contempt


So... You call me a liar and purveyor of mindless spew.
I ask for specific examples and you ignore my request for weeks, citing your lack of will to "take me seriously"

Boscox, my good friend... that makes you nothing more than a horribly failed internet troll, flinging factually bankrupt rhetoric.
And you say can't take ME seriously?

As for the committee, I have explained multiple times how the committee was formed..

Pelosi (your queen) asked for a bi-partisan, bi-cameral 911-style commission. It was blocked by Republicans.
Pelosi then formed a commission in the House. McCarthy (your prince) sent nominees. ALL were accepted by Pelosi, except 2.
The two were:
1. Jim Jordan - who was going to be a witness, and therefore could not serve on the committee. Additionally, he wastes the committees and the taxpayers time and money, by taking committee hearing time with nonsensical right wing revisionist diatribe. As we now have his text messages, we know of his aide in the sedition
2. Jim Banks who openly stated he was going to use his place on the committee to pursue his own personal agenda.

It was YOUR prince, McCarrthy who pulled the other Republican nominees from the committee

It was THEN that Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney volunteered, because they were previously blocked by your prince, McCarthy.

Your assertion that the committee members were all hand picked by Pelosi is 100% FALSE. FALSE in every sense of the word.


So Pelosi built the committee from both parties, made up of people who were determined to serve the committee's purpose. (To investigate the causes of the insurrection and find out who was responsible)

They did an amazing job. The report is factual and inciteful and includes the transcripts of the interviews!

And this cannot be said enough...

The testimony was hardly bi-partisan. It was almost 100% Republican, and LARGELY Trump's own staff and his OWN daughter!

Not only am I ok with it. I smile when I see government work the way it is supposed to.

One fact is CRYSTAL clear
Your contempt lies not with any sincere feelings you have with bias.
If you even begin to be honest with yourself and honest on this forum...

Your contempt is triggered because it exposes the massive criminality committed by your king.

I deal in facts. You deal in rhetoric and insults.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/15/2023 8:23:24 AM   
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"It was blocked by Republicans."

Why. Because Pelosi wouldn't allow Republicans to place their best mind on the committee who would pointedly have asked among a million other unasked questions WHY PELOSI HERSELF FAILED TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SECURITY

Who would effectively call and question witnesses, present facts, video, documents, and critically cross examine the witnesses that "Democrats" called

Etcetera

You pretend that said Republicans were involved in the trespassing event while pointedly ignoring Democrat involvement all the way to Pelosi herself - which is why it was strictly partisan and one sided

It was purely political theater and your blind insane partisanship in the face of your queen's Soviet-style theatrical show trial production is worthy of all of the contempt that can be mustered



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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/15/2023 9:03:53 AM   
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The truth was blocked, and by "Democrats"

But here's a fun fact - the truth is back in town

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan on "The Takeout"

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/15/2023 3:12:47 PM   
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"It was blocked by Republicans."

Why. Because Pelosi wouldn't allow Republicans to place their best mind on the committee who would pointedly have asked among a million other unasked questions WHY PELOSI HERSELF FAILED TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SECURITY


This is both horribly wrong and stupid simultaneously.

The sentence in my post about it being blocked by Republicans had nothing to do with anyone on any committee. I was referring to the bi-partisan bi-cameral 911-style committee that was originally proposed. No one was nominated to that committee because the Republican prevented it from ever existing?

Why? Because the clear evidence of the sedtion from both house and senate Republicans would be revealed. (And was by the Jan 6 committee)


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Who would effectively call and question witnesses, present facts, video, documents, and critically cross examine the witnesses that "Democrats" called

What happened ,happened. No maga Republican knows any facts, let alone present them. I could just see Jim Jordan, whose text messages supporting the insurrection are put into evidence, questioning Pat Cippilone, or Ivanka Trump!

What you are suggesting is absurd to the point of being ridiculous. If there is any other evidence out there, where is it? Were the text messages spoofed? Maybe a ghost got on their phones and told the Proud Boys to smash windows. Maybe a ghost told John Eastman to come up with the fake elector scheme?

Sorry BoscoX... This is just stupidity.

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WHY PELOSI HERSELF FAILED TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SECURITY


BoscoX, you need to STOP watching Fox News!

1. Nancy Pelosi is NOT in charge of providing security
2. Nancy Pelosi is NOT in charge of providing security
3. Nancy Pelosi is NOT in charge of providing security
Who is?

The Seargent At Arms of the House and the Seargent at Arns of the Senate.

Nancy Pelosi is not a security professional. She has zero idea on domestic threat intelligence.

This whole Fox News theme is so amateur. Fox News - The channel for the Low IQ viewer.

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You pretend that said Republicans were involved in the trespassing event while pointedly ignoring Democrat involvement all the way to Pelosi herself - which is why it was strictly partisan and one sided

I don't need to pretend the text messages and testimony are clear for all to see. Sorry, there was no Democrat involvement in the Jan 6th insurrection.

It was partisan and one-sided to be sure. Almost 100% evidence from came from Republicans.

You keep repeating this nonsensical widely debunked ideas you heard on Fox News. None of them approach being facts.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/15/2023 3:30:26 PM   
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The Jan 6 Committee wasn't investigating the classified docs Trump had. The history of the Committee is well documented. Arguing about the legitimacy of it now is pointless, as it is over.

I say it's time to move on, so that as a Nation, we can heal. It happened two years ago. Continuously bringing it to the forefront of our minds probably isn't good for Trump. Or Republicans at all. The time to release shocking new video is over.

"The truth was blocked". Then it can come out in court. About a thousand people have been charged in the Jan 6 attack, over 300 convictions so far. Trump may be added to those numbers. Or not.

Continuing any sort of business related to Trump, and his time in office, makes the House look bad, as they should be focused on more current items, instead of rehashing solved ones.

But again, maybe that's the point. Maybe as long as Trump is a candidate for President, he is as big a target for Republicans as he is for Democrats. And since we're a year or so out from the beginning of the primaries, McCarthy is the only one that can take on Trump publicly. And it's smooth operating, not taking Trump on directly or obviously. McCarthy thinks he can "own the libs" and take Trump out all at once. I don't think he's that smooth though.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/17/2023 11:48:13 AM   
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"Time to move on" because we're about to find out why hag Pelosi barred Jim Jordon from her personal little private witches coven

"Why did Pelosi fail to provide adequate security as President Trump requested" is a question that can now be pursued

Jim Jordan Goes NUCLEAR After Pelosi Blocks Him From Jan. 6 Committee


ROFL....

Jim Jordan at his moronic best

This what happens when we gerrymander districts

This guy starts out by BASHING the very committee from which he whined about being banned. He brings up crime and inflation, because they are 100% relevant to the Jan 6th insurrection. Then he plays the completely moronic and widely empirically debunked "Nancy Pelosi security" card.

This is one of the reasons he was banned. He contributes NOTHING to the committee. He spends the committee's time having childish temper tantrums, and going on completely factless, revisionist diatribes. He does so in this very video! Also, watch him on other committees! He asks no relevant questions. Rather he just talks for minutes on end, citing completly false revisionist nonsense on past events.

1. Talks about crime going up. - Ummm... local mayors and governors are in charge of that... And that releates to Jan 6th, how?
2. Talks about inflation (and omits the complete Republican inaction to addressss the supply chain crisis when they were in power) - And that relates to Jan 6th how?
3. And then the Nancy Pelosi security nonsense. Yes that is helpful, right?

Let's just say, that the rules of the House require the Speaker to be the Chief Security Officer (they don't). Let's also assume that your queen, Nancy Pelosi dropped the ball here. ok. Are you saying lack of adequate security caused the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers to organize an attack on the capitol? oh BTW: AND to stockpile huge caches of arms in nearby hotels?

BTW: The Seargent at Arms of the House - the guy who was ACTUALLY in charge of security, was fired.

You listen to this moron and follow his every word because you think he is some kind of great mind.

He is almost 100% completely worng in what he says. (And I mean flat out wrong)

He is either:

1. Just so incredibly stupid that he should always just STFU
2. A complete blind partisan hack that would do anything to preserve his own fame, wealth, and power
3. A combination of both

Personally, I think it is mostly #2, and some of #1.

Also... Look at one of his seditious texts he forwarded to Mark Meadows, trying to get Meadows to get Mike Pence to overturn the elctoral college vote.
Keep in mind, he is no constituional scholar, or scholar of American history at all. He wouldn't know a Federalist paper from a piece of toilet paper. He did not write this. He seditiously forwarded it

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“On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all – in accordance with guidance from founding father Alexander Hamilton and judicial precedence. ‘No legislative act,’ wrote Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 78, ‘contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.’ The court in Hubbard v. Lowe reinforced this truth: ‘That an unconstitutional statute is not a law at all is a proposition no longer open to discussion.’ 226 F. 135, 137 (SDNY 1915), appeal dismissed, 242 U.S. 654 (1916). Following this rationale, an unconstitutionally appointed elector, like an unconstitutionally enacted statute, is no elector at all.”


First of all, Mike Pence had no auithority whatsoever to call anything out and override electoral votes. - Jim Jordon knew this
Secondly, nothing could be MORE constituional, then following the constitutionallly prescribed process for choosing the President.
Thirdly, the author refers to an "unconstituionally appointed elector". All electors were constitutionally appointed and approved by their states. - Jim Jordon knew this

Lastly, the idea that anyone could make a judgment as to the Constitutionality of any official proceeding and thereby nullify that proceeding is so completely absurd, it is laughable.

"Sorry you can't arrest him for the robbery you just saw him commit, because I am calling it out as unconstitutional, and therefore, no arrest at all. "

This is the GREAT mind that the GOP wanted on the comittee.

He was banned because he is a partisan hack, guilty of the very sedition the committee was investigating.
PERIOD.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/19/2023 10:36:24 AM   
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Jim Jordan Goes NUCLEAR After Pelosi Blocks Him From Jan. 6 Committee


This moron goes NUCLEAR! ROFL
"Why aren't they talking about crime and inflation?" - Yes... brilliant

As it turns out he lied under oath about talking to Trump DURING the insurrection
He ALSO was on the phone with the sedition leaders in the Willard hotel
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/04/politics/jim-jordan-trump-january-6/index.html

Oh... great idea to have him on the committee!!! What an asset he would be!
Question... If he was so committed to assisting the committee in getting to the truth, why did he refuse to testify????

This traitor now heads the House Judiciary Committee. Thanks Kevin McCarthy!

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/19/2023 1:28:41 PM   
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Well, we've probably had lawyers in that position. But maybe we'll do better with an actual criminal.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/19/2023 2:35:35 PM   
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"“The president bears responsibility for Wednesday’s attack on Congress by mob rioters.”
- Kevin McCarthy 1/13/21


Now the same Kevin McCarthy appoints as head of the Judiciary Committee, Jim Jordan, a proven seditious traitor who aided Trump during the insurrection, as well as the insurrection coordinators in the Willard Hotel.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/22/2023 9:44:50 AM   
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They kept saying it was the most “safe and secure election in history” and we are now just learning that the "DOJ" never investigated ANY election fraud

So secure that no judge would review any of the evidence

So safe that anyone calling out the fraud was banned off social media

So unquestionable that protesters were crushed without trial

Tyranny is here


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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/22/2023 9:59:08 AM   
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They kept saying it was the most “safe and secure election in history” and we are now just learning that the "DOJ" never investigated ANY election fraud

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we are now just learning that the "DOJ" never investigated ANY election fraud

FALSE
The DOJ investgated and found NO evidence of widespread election fraud

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So secure that no judge would review any of the evidence

FALSE
COMPLETELY DEBUNKED
Judges reviewed the evidence (actually the lack thereof) and dismissed the cases.

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So safe that anyone calling out the fraud was banned off social media

Completely ridiculous Twitter and Facebook were and ARE chock full of MAGA lemmings parroting what they hear in the right wing echo chamber
This is emprically FALSE

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So unquestionable that protesters were crushed without trial

Also empirically FALSE. No one was "crushed". EVERY one of the had a trial. No exceptions.



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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/22/2023 5:41:58 PM   
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Bosco, if you tell a lie enough times, it's still a freakin' lie. And 2020 is over. The election is over. The past is past. Stuff happened. Stop crying about it and move on. Or keep it going. I don't care. Focusing on the 2020 election just makes the GOP look bad. Meaning Dems will win. Again.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/22/2023 6:05:02 PM   
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Bosco, which protesters exactly were "crushed without trial"? Maybe the ones that plead guilty? And most of them blamed Trump.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 1/25/2023 8:19:01 PM   
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/01/25/jan-6-committee-report-footnotes-guide/

Excellent read. Even the footnotes of the Jan 6 panel's report is a "treasure trove" of information. But of course, it had to be, as everyone involved knew that there would be a serious misinformation campaign about the panel, and their findings.

And it kinda explains Bosco's DOJ is part of the Dems rhetoric. The GOP wants to distance themselves from the actions of Trump. But still kinda keep worshipping Trump? Idk it's strange.

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