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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/25/2022 8:30:11 PM   
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Bosco, you're giving the Committee far too much imaginary power. There's no execution. No guillotine. Not even a good waterboarding planned. Just a referral to the DOJ. Whether Donnie faces any real legal charges is up to them. But I doubt they will charge him before the GOP Primary gets going good. I'm sure nobody will even mention the January 6th "tea party". Or how Trump was impeached, twice.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/26/2022 6:13:30 AM   
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Lies, obfuscations and excuses. The only thing that was revealed is that you and your party really like Stalinist show trials. "They can't be allowed a defense because they are guilty as charged. They will be given a fair trial during which they shall be found guilty, and then they will be executed."




Still no answer on where the lie is.

Also, I don't understand what you mean by "They can't be allowed a defense." Donald Trump was invited several times to testify. He delcined. He chose, instead to whine incessantly on Truth Social. His aides testified. Almost everyone who testified was a lifelong Republican. So who was not allowed a defense??????

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/26/2022 6:35:21 AM   
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Bosco, you're giving the Committee far too much imaginary power. There's no execution. No guillotine. Not even a good waterboarding planned. Just a referral to the DOJ. Whether Donnie faces any real legal charges is up to them. But I doubt they will charge him before the GOP Primary gets going good. I'm sure nobody will even mention the January 6th "tea party". Or how Trump was impeached, twice.


Judge, jury and executioner - iit's a figure of speech.

President Trump was "impeached" twice by totally partisan votes.

What you are saying is that "Democrats" (communists) hate President Trump

(breaking news there)

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/26/2022 10:49:15 PM   
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Its a poor choice of words, not a "figure of speech".

It wasn't a trial. There may be a trial, eventually, but this wasn't it. This was a fact finding investigation. They hired a producer, a big-time former ABC News exec, to package it for tv. It's still hard to turn CSPAN content into a primetime network worthy event. Especially when it had so many parts. I've had vision issues, so I could only hear it, and have to ask legitimately, did the production values make a real difference?

Sure, news shows played clips. The late night talk shows did too. But did anything go viral? Was anything meme-worthy? Did anything really stand out? Aside from Diet Dr Pepper. I don't think the hearings changed many people's views, but it may have cemented the views of anyone that had questions about Trump, and his connections to the attack on our Capitol.

You can deny the legitimacy of the Committee all you want, Bosco. But that doesn't change anything Trump actually did or said. Instead of attacking the committee, why don't you try to defend Trump now?

Either way, I don't have to deal with him in office now. And I doubt he'll get through the primary. But I wouldn't be surprised if he ran as a third party candidate, after he loses the GOP primary.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/27/2022 5:23:00 AM   
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Far left mindless zealots sitting around in your circle jerk echo chamber critically accusing and judging your political opposition with nary a counterpoint tollerated

Call it whatever makes you feel almost human I suppose

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/29/2022 9:01:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Far left mindless zealots sitting around in your circle jerk echo chamber critically accusing and judging your political opposition with nary a counterpoint tollerated

Call it whatever makes you feel almost human I suppose


Why do you keep saying this? Everyone who had first hand information was invited to testify or subpoenaed. Almost all Republican Trump staff. MANY TESTIFIED. Trump himself was both invited and subpoenaed. The chair and vice chair solicited requests for testimony from ANYONE with first hand knowledge of the events.


What are the "counterpoints" to which you were referring? The transcripts of all testimony have been published.

Please cite:

1. A FACTUAL counterpoint
2. Name of the person making that counterpoint
3. The reason that person didn't testify before the committee


I would LOVE to see this!

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/29/2022 9:08:25 AM   
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Stop lying to yourself already.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/29/2022 10:29:21 AM   
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FR -

Ten bucks says the full archives will meet a similar fate as Hillary's subpoenaed hard drives and smart phones (they were smashed with hammers)

quote:

For Jan. 6 Committee, Time for Transparency Is Running Out

Republicans take control of the House of Representatives in one week. When that happens, the Jan. 6 committee, with all its members selected by outgoing Speaker Nancy Pelosi, will go out of existence. Now, as the clock ticks down, it appears the committee's demise will leave some significant unanswered questions.

The biggest such question is: What happens to the material the committee gathered? By its own account, the committee interviewed more than 1,000 people. Some reports put the number as high as 1,200. Many of those interviews were recorded on video and transcribed, and even those that were not were memorialized in notes by committee investigators.

The committee's ten hearings, all made-for-TV affairs, featured brief snippets of video interviews. A few witnesses appeared in person for the purpose of repeating for the cameras what they had earlier told investigators. In the public show, at least, all the Pelosi-chosen members agreed on all issues, so there was no public debate or disagreement between members, nor were there any meaningful unscripted exchanges with witnesses. It was all a tightly controlled affair. The public saw only what committee leaders wanted it to see. In total, it was a small fraction of all the information the committee gathered.

Now the issue is: Will the videos and transcripts and notes of the more than 1,000 interviews be released? Here's the most important thing to remember: The committee can do what it wants. The chairman, in this case Democratic Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, decides what records the committee will archive and what records it will destroy. The House resolution creating the committee says that, upon termination of the committee, "the records of the Select Committee shall become the records of such committee or committees designated by the Speaker." But the chairman decides what is a "record" and what is not. There are inside players on Capitol Hill who believe the Jan. 6 Committee will destroy a lot of its work. It will never see the light of day.

More:

https://townhall.com/columnists/byronyork/2022/12/28/for-jan-6-committee-time-for-transparency-is-running-out-n2617611


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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/29/2022 12:26:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

FR -

Ten bucks says the full archives will meet a similar fate as Hillary's subpoenaed hard drives and smart phones (they were smashed with hammers)

quote:

For Jan. 6 Committee, Time for Transparency Is Running Out

Republicans take control of the House of Representatives in one week. When that happens, the Jan. 6 committee, with all its members selected by outgoing Speaker Nancy Pelosi, will go out of existence. Now, as the clock ticks down, it appears the committee's demise will leave some significant unanswered questions.

The biggest such question is: What happens to the material the committee gathered? By its own account, the committee interviewed more than 1,000 people. Some reports put the number as high as 1,200. Many of those interviews were recorded on video and transcribed, and even those that were not were memorialized in notes by committee investigators.

The committee's ten hearings, all made-for-TV affairs, featured brief snippets of video interviews. A few witnesses appeared in person for the purpose of repeating for the cameras what they had earlier told investigators. In the public show, at least, all the Pelosi-chosen members agreed on all issues, so there was no public debate or disagreement between members, nor were there any meaningful unscripted exchanges with witnesses. It was all a tightly controlled affair. The public saw only what committee leaders wanted it to see. In total, it was a small fraction of all the information the committee gathered.

Now the issue is: Will the videos and transcripts and notes of the more than 1,000 interviews be released? Here's the most important thing to remember: The committee can do what it wants. The chairman, in this case Democratic Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, decides what records the committee will archive and what records it will destroy. The House resolution creating the committee says that, upon termination of the committee, "the records of the Select Committee shall become the records of such committee or committees designated by the Speaker." But the chairman decides what is a "record" and what is not. There are inside players on Capitol Hill who believe the Jan. 6 Committee will destroy a lot of its work. It will never see the light of day.

More:

https://townhall.com/columnists/byronyork/2022/12/28/for-jan-6-committee-time-for-transparency-is-running-out-n2617611




OK... So the Washington Examiner is claiming the committee is selectively releasing information. ok... If there is hidden unreleased information that committee is not releasing then where is it? The people texted and emailed still have all their text messages and emails. The people who testified have their own brains and recollections. Who is coming forward with this information?????

Is Hope Hicks coming out and saying "They took my words out of context. I really meant something else"???
Is Ivanka Trump? Is Bill Barr? Is Jared Kushner?

If someone has something to say and has evidence to support his/her assertions, he/she is free to speak his/her mind and hold a press conference. He/she can even use 4 Seasons Landscaping. I hear its available!

If he/she has no evidence at all, he/she can follow the trump model, and whine like a baby on truth social.

It is a nonsensical article from the Washington Examiner which signifies nothing, picked up by townhall.com.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/30/2022 3:52:37 PM   
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Fast Reply -

The Feds lost control of Twitter and now? Federal agent Ray Epps is trending on Twitter because news just broke that he texted his nephew, taking credit for the January 6th trespassing event

Best Tweet yet?

quote:

Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
·
7h
Ray Epps is on video directing people to attack the Capitol

Ray Epps texted his nephew "I orchestrated it"

But if they changed him with incitement, they couldn't indict Trump, so they protected Epps

Are you getting it yet?



The second best?

J
quote:

ames Bradley
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Dec 28
I’d really like to ask someone from the J6 Committee, how do you release an 845-page final report and never mention Ray Epps, the only guy on video SEEN AND HEARD telling people to storm the Capitol?😳🤯




(Nothing for indoctrinated useful idiots to see here folks - move along).

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/30/2022 5:22:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


Fast Reply -

The Feds lost control of Twitter and now? Federal agent Ray Epps is trending on Twitter because news just broke that he texted his nephew, taking credit for the January 6th trespassing event

Best Tweet yet?

quote:

Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
·
7h
Ray Epps is on video directing people to attack the Capitol

Ray Epps texted his nephew "I orchestrated it"

But if they changed him with incitement, they couldn't indict Trump, so they protected Epps

Are you getting it yet?



The second best?

J
quote:

ames Bradley
@JamesBradleyCA
·
Dec 28
I’d really like to ask someone from the J6 Committee, how do you release an 845-page final report and never mention Ray Epps, the only guy on video SEEN AND HEARD telling people to storm the Capitol?😳🤯




(Nothing for indoctrinated useful idiots to see here folks - move along).


Ray Epps???? Are you a 4-year old?
Bosco... You have stop reading the NY Post and watching Fox News!!!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/-trump-protester-ray-epps-told-jan-6-committee-crazy-conspiracy-theori-rcna63615

https://gazette.com/news/us-world/jan-6-transcripts-ray-epps-insists-he-had-no-contact-with-fbi-or-law-enforcement/article_f2bde28a-4f4f-5fea-82ea-f18d8cbd9084.html

https://news.yahoo.com/january-6-participant-ray-epps-214612998.html


From the NBC News Link:

quote:


Epps' view of whether he could go into the building, he said, changed on Jan. 6. Body camera video shows Epps asking law enforcement officers how he can assist them, offering to help move rioters back from the police line and away from the steps. He turns toward members of the crowd and tries to get them to calm down. Another rioter, one of the first to breach the barricades, also told authorities that Epps told him to “relax“ and that police were just doing their job.


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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/30/2022 5:27:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

The Feds lost control of Twitter and now? Federal agent Ray Epps is trending on Twitter because news just broke that he texted his nephew, taking credit for the January 6th trespassing event



"News just broke"??? What source of "NEWS" is this? Your Twitter feed???

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/30/2022 6:00:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Fast Reply -
The Feds lost control of Twitter and now? Federal agent Ray Epps is trending on Twitter because news just broke that he texted his nephew, taking credit for the January 6th trespassing event


Federal Agent?

From the J6 committee interview with Epps...
quote:


Q: I might have missed this. How long were you in the Marine Corps?
A: 4 years.

Q: 4 years. And what was your job in the Marines?
A: Infantry

Q: Were your ever -- did you ever -- in the Marines or in the job that you just discussed -- were you ever -- did you ever work in law enforcement?
A: No sir.

Q: Did you ever work for the FBI?
A: No sir




Why was he not included in the 845 page report? Because he was completely insignificant to the coup plot. Poor guy was the victim of a right wing plot to scapegoat him in order to blame the FBI

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/30/2022 6:24:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


Fast Reply -

The Feds lost control of Twitter and now? Federal agent Ray Epps is trending on Twitter because news just broke that he texted his nephew, taking credit for the January 6th trespassing event

Best Tweet yet?


Probably the most moronic tweet from a low-information right-winger.

He texted that to his nephew AFTER he left the capital. He was trying to calm people down and assist the police while he was there. THAT is what he meant by "orchestrating things" When he could no longer keep people calm, he left.

You are sooooo gullible.

"News Broke" - ROFL

From this nbcnews link

From the J6 interview with him...

quote:


In his interview with the Jan. 6 committee, Epps explains a text he sent to his nephew at 2:12 p.m. on Jan. 6 saying he was upfront and had "orchestrated" things. He says he didn't know what was happening. At that moment, a rioter was smashing in a window to the Capitol, but Epps said he was no longer at the Capitol complex.

"At that point, I didn't know that they were breaking into the Capitol," he said. "I didn't know anybody was in the Capitol. ... I was on my way back to the hotel room."

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/31/2022 5:50:14 AM   
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Fast Reply -

Leader Of Wild-Eyed Hysterical Leftists Nancy Pelosi Drops Unlawful Trump Subpoena

(It was just another political stunt, like everything else they do).

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/january-6-committee-withdraws-trump-subpoena/




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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/31/2022 6:58:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


Fast Reply -

Leader Of Wild-Eyed Hysterical Leftists Nancy Pelosi Drops Unlawful Trump Subpoena

(It was just another political stunt, like everything else they do).

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/january-6-committee-withdraws-trump-subpoena/





Now you are really desperate.

First of all, this happened several days ago. I guess it just now made it to the right wing echo chamber.

I would love to hear your legal theory on how a subpoena from a bi-partisan congressional committee is unlawful.

And... BTW...

What happened to all the incessant whining about not being heard in the committee. Why does he have to be subpoenaed in the first place? He should be jumping at the chance to testify. After all, he DID NOTHING WRONG!!!

Lmfao!!!


This is both pathetic and hilarious.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/31/2022 9:47:47 AM   
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bi-partisan


You keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/31/2022 10:15:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01
bi-partisan


You keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means


Bipartisan Definition

From the above link

quote:

involving the agreement or cooperation of two political parties that usually oppose each other's policies.
"the reforms received considerable bipartisan approval"



There were members of the J6 committee from two parties that usually oppose each other.. What part of this is not clear?

Also, what is your legal theory to support your claim that the subpoena is "unlawful"?

I am still waiting to hear this. It should be good!

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/31/2022 10:26:25 AM   
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There were members of the J6 committee from two parties


I can no longer justify wasting my time on you, as you are willfully blind.

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RE: Jan. 6 panel refers Trump on criminal charges - 12/31/2022 10:34:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


There were members of the J6 committee from two parties


I can no longer justify wasting my time on you, as you are willfully blind.



Have I said something that is incorrect? Were there members of only 1 party? No.

Liz Cheney has been a lifelong Republican and guzzler of the neocon kool-aid., saying the most moronic Republican things she could say, her entire career. I don't know anyone who could be more Republican.

Does she not count, because she called BS on trump?

Please explain...

1. How this committee is not bipartisan (I already provided the link to the definition)
2. Your legal theory supporting your assertion that the subpoena is unlawful.

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