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RE: No Speaker today? - 10/21/2023 6:49:09 AM

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Well JVoV I see loser Jim Jordan was knocked out after round three and a secret GOP ballot. that doesn't make sense to me its as if the rest of the Asylum of Lunatics were scared to go against him, Trumps man, publicly.

I presume this to be a good thing? Hopefully there is no one worse than that election and democracy denier lurking in the shadows? no such luck I suppose

I actually think the Democrats should approach a few Republicans. They only need 4.

Its as if the Republicans don't want to govern or simply cant because they are a democracy denying bunch of idiots. There is no other logical or rational explanation.

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RE: No Speaker today? - 10/21/2023 7:24:25 AM

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Um... Idk about worse, but there's always Gaetz, Bohbert, MTG, or others that would still be really really bad. I don't think any of them would get voted in either though, which makes me thankful there are still some Republicans that haven't caved to the bullying tactics of people like Jordan or even Trump.

Hopefully, a moderate Speaker will get nominated, and voted in, so the country can get back to real business. The world is far too dangerous for the US to be unable to do anything about it.

Congress is elected to actually legislate, not to hide from the tough decisions. Extremism just doesn't work in the US, too many people will oppose either extreme.

A real budget has to be passed real immigration reform needs to be passed. Real issues need to be solved, not just kicked down the road for a more convenient time.

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RE: No Speaker today? - 10/21/2023 9:34:08 AM

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Well. I have heard of Marjorie Taylor Greene and George Santos. Anyone worse than those two, with half a brain? There probably is I am beginning to suspect.

Now you mention Bohbert was she the one who tried to give someone a handjob or blowjob at a school play. She isn't bad either, nothing a ball gag couldn't fix or a brain transplant.

I take it this Gaetz is in a straight jacket but raring to be unleashed feral style.

I don't believe the Republicans will, or can, ever vote for a Moderate.

Pick Hakeem. Has that ever happened before?

I thought I heard today some vote went 157 rounds.

Any reasonable Republican would have stopped McCarthy and Jordan getting in except they didn't. I presume you still have some of them left?

If not Hakeem them Pick Paul Ryan or some woman I am thinking about but I cant remember her name or if she was House or Senate - the republican one?

If not your clown shit show is going to go on until hell freezes over.

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RE: No Speaker today? - 10/21/2023 11:58:38 AM

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House Speaker doesn't have to be a member of the House. There was talk of Trump being nominated when McCarthy was up for it. Jefferies would be very unlikely, since he's a Democrat, and it would be political suicide to vote for the other party as Speaker.

As for 'moderate', I'm not speaking in absolutes, but on a Republican scale.

Matt Gaetz was the one that got McCarthy ousted and started this shit show. He'll probably run for Florida governor next time. That worries me a little, which is really bad considering who our governor is now. But the Dems need a decent candidate here, which hasn't happened for a while. And Florida is going more to the right each election.

I don't really keep up with Boebert's antics. I just know she's a loon.

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RE: No Speaker today? - 10/21/2023 2:16:40 PM

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Did you see my polls? I nominate you. I should be nominated.

Matt Gaetz was the one that got McCarthy ousted. Are you sure it was not the other way about? And what of Santos?

Think about it and learning curve on that fateful 15th version of days.

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RE: No Speaker today? - 10/21/2023 4:18:33 PM

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Santos is a joke, but I think the threat he represents as a person has been minimized. The threat he is as a voting Representative is ticking away, but cannot be forgotten.

And yeah, it was Gaetz that called for the vote to have McCarthy removed as Speaker. In doing so, Gaetz may have cost the Republicans the House majority next election, but that's still a year off anyway, so there's plenty of time for the Dems to screw up too.

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RE: No Speaker today? - 10/23/2023 8:53:49 AM

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Lauren Boebert says she ‘fell short of values’ after Beetlejuice groping video:
1. Congresswoman issues apology after being kicked out of performance of musical in Denver for inappropriate behavior
2. Lauren Boebert says she ‘fell short of values’ after Beetlejuice groping video
3. Boebert and her campaign manager initially denied that she was vaping But surveillance video obtained by the Denver television station 9News shows the congresswoman openly vaping during the performance. Two sources also confirmed to 9News that Boebert was vaping, a prohibited action that ushers attempted to address with her several times. A pregnant woman reportedly confronted Boebert and asked the congresswoman to stop vaping, the New York Post reported. But Boebert refused.
Not really worth a mention but that what she has been up to of late

I bring splendid news: only 7 of the 9 treason muppets, currently running for Speaker, are election deniers who discharged their sworn House and Democracy duties by rejecting Joe Biden as the legitimate winner of the election and democratic process.

Next time I tune into the House stream I expect to see dancing elephants or I will be miffed.
Could have been 9/9 you know. Somewhat impressed there were 2.

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RE: No Speaker today? - 10/25/2023 1:11:16 PM

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Well, we finally have a Speaker again. Some election denier from Louisiana. Don't know much about him yet, so I'll withhold judgment for now. He's Republican, so probably not someone ill like, but that's less important than actually getting the job as Speaker done.

It may be the President that history and voters blame and remember, but Congress has failed this country for the last few decadppes. Our Constitution was written so that each branch of government is kept in line with a system of checks and balances. Any President's agenda has to be passed into law by Congress, and be uphold, if questioned, by the Supreme Court. Both parties have the responsibility to stay moderate, when they can, and not just oppose the other party out of spite.

Even the prospect of a government shutdown is a failure and should never be allowed.

Party can only mean so much. Once a politician is elected, they have the duty and obligation to represent all of their constituents the best they can. Regardless of party, religion, race, sexuality, gender identity, or any other factor.

The GOP has had several goals for a long time now, while the Democratic Party seems to always be reactionary. Really, I think both parties suck anymore, and there are few people on either side that I truly believe in. Even fewer that can actually get good things done.

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RE: No Speaker today? - 10/27/2023 6:32:47 AM

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Grim reading
Trumpist Mike Johnson. Election denier, climate skeptic, anti-abortion: seven beliefs of new US House speaker Mike Johnson

He tried to overturn the 2020 election
In the modern Republican party, supporting Donald Trump’s lie about voter fraud in his defeat by Joe Biden is hardly an outlandish position. But Johnson took it further.

After the election, he voiced support for Trump’s conspiracy theory that voting machines were rigged. Later, he was one of 147 Republicans to object to results in key states, even after a pro-Trump mob attacked Congress on January 6, a riot now linked to nine deaths and hundreds of convictions.

Johnson also authored an amicus brief filed to the supreme court in a case in which Texas sought to have swing-state results thrown out. According to the New York Times, a House Republican lawyer said Johnson’s brief was unconstitutional. Nonetheless, he persuaded 125 colleagues to sign it, using tactics some thought heavy handed.

He was a spokesperson for a ‘hate group’
Before entering politics, Johnson worked for the Alliance Defending Freedom – designated a hate group by the Southern Law Poverty Center, which tracks US extremists.

According to the SPLC, the ADF has “supported the recriminalisation of sexual acts between consenting LGBTQ+ adults in the US and criminalisation abroad; defended state-sanctioned sterilisation of trans people abroad; contended that LGBTQ+ people are more likely to engage in paedophilia; and claimed that a ‘homosexual agenda’ will destroy Christianity and society”

He opposes LGBTQ+ rights
In state politics and at the national level, Johnson has worked to claw back gains made by LGBTQ+ Americans in their fight for equality.

He is stringently anti-abortion

He wants to cut social security and Medicare

He is an advocate for ‘covenant marriage’
When he married his wife, Kelly, in 1999, the couple agreed to a “covenant” marriage: a conservative Christian idea that makes it harder to divorce.

He is a climate skeptic
In 2017, Johnson told voters in his oil-rich home state: “The climate is changing, but the question is, is it being caused by natural cycles over the span of the Earth’s history? Or is it changing because we drive SUVs? I don’t believe in the latter. I don’t think that’s the primary driver.”

He has also opposed proposals for a Green New Deal and been named an “energy champion” by the American Energy Alliance, a rightwing group that has defended fossil fuel use.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/25/who-is-mike-johnson-house-speaker-election-denier-climate-anti-abortion

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