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bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 6:37:33 AM   
pqwinny


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Status: offline 		Since there has been a great deal of discussion in this area recently, i'd like to try to get some expanded input.  i was recently asked to research the differences between a slut, a whore and a bitch in the context of BDSM.  i haven't put any real effort into it but must admit the question of qualitative difference has been hauning me a bit.

Looking to hear the thoughts, opinions, ideas of others....let 'er rip! 

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 6:41:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well a slut is the one not doing you, the whore is the one doing everyone else but you, and the bitch is the chick doing both of them giving you a running commentary of how, when, and why (j/k-tic)


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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 6:58:43 AM   
MHOO314


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Status: offline 		I hate this!!!!
 
Personally, I am sick to death of posts debating women, whores, ProDommes et al---I find those terms insulting, cheap and degrading---quite frankly I don't give a rats ass what you call your "other" behind closed doors---but to refer to them as that publically IMHO is barbaric and crude---I don't see us posting and debating the definition of terms used on the male species---
 
If he or she is good enough to lick your ass and your boots, put up with your crap, mood swings, tributes whatever---they deem terms a hell of a lot better.
 
We discuss Pro Dommes ad nauseum---we never discuss drug dealers,  gun runners, slavers or anything that is an illegal occupation.
 
I have seen at least 5 threads in two days about whores--WTH?
 
IMHO the qualitative difference rests with the person who uses that term.

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 6:58:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pqwinny
Since there has been a great deal of discussion in this area recently, i'd like to try to get some expanded input.  i was recently asked to research the differences between a slut, a whore and a bitch in the context of BDSM.  i haven't put any real effort into it but must admit the question of qualitative difference has been hauning me a bit.

Looking to hear the thoughts, opinions, ideas of others....let 'er rip! 

slut- someone who has an active interest in sex, sexuality and celebrates it openly (does not imply any ACTUAL sex, or any AMOUNT of sex)

whore- someone who receives money in exchange for sexual services

bitch- female who has aggravating, negative and superior attitude

All of these terms can also be used just as "hot usually demeaning name that I'm using to turn us on" with no specific context in mind.

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 7:07:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		To me the terms are not gender specific and can be used for either female or male.

slut is someone who will have sex with just about anyone for free, its done because the person enjoys it.

whore charges for his/her services.

bitch is someone who takes charge and is pushy about it.

~Lashra

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 8:35:05 AM   
pqwinny


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the input so far.  In my mind the definitions/differences were pretty much in line with what LA has spelled out.  The reason for the post stemmed from the fact that i'm pretty new to the BDSM world and although i've done a lot of reading in a lot of places there's still plenty left unexplored and didn't know if i might have missed something specific in the definitions as generally accepted here.

Seems like this topic will pretty much fall into the same category of what i've noticed everything else has among reasonable people here...define and use as you wish and is agreed upon with you and your partner(s)...whatever floats your boat!

thanks

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 8:50:06 AM   
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quote:

I hate this!!!!
 
Personally, I am sick to death of posts debating women, whores, ProDommes et al---I find those terms insulting, cheap and degrading---quite frankly I don't give a rats ass what you call your "other" behind closed doors---but to refer to them as that publically IMHO is barbaric and crude---I don't see us posting and debating the definition of terms used on the male species---

Actually - within this discussion - there isnt any mention on specific gender.  Assuming that whores/sluts/and bitches are always aimed at female - says more about the person assuming it.

oh...and what Em said...

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 9:10:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		The difference between a Slut and a Bitch?  The slut sleeps with anybody, the bitch sleeps with anybody But You!  And a whore is just so damn good at it that they've gained Professional Standing.
 
(There are so many who call me a Bitch for just that reason, after all.... lmao)
 
All joking aside, what LA mentioned pretty well sums things up.
 
Bitch = controling /domineering person, when it's not used simply to indicate a person someone dislikes or has personality clashes with.
 
Slut = someone sexually free in expression, whether they actually take part in the act or not.
 
Whore = someone who gets paid to deliver sexual gratification to another.
 
I'm always a slut, and actually quite proud of that fact. I'm a bitch when it becomes necessary.  I'm never a whore - I prefer to maintain my exceptionally talented amature status.

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 9:15:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		This thread has me giggling!  A good thing!   And while I mostly agree with all of the sentiments contained herein, I submit the following.....

All of those who see Me professionally are .... sluts, whores and bitches..... and they are men!

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 9:33:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyTantalize

This thread has me giggling!  A good thing!   And while I mostly agree with all of the sentiments contained herein, I submit the following.....

All of those who see Me professionally are .... sluts, whores and bitches..... and they are men!

*teehee*





Go figure!  Plus they pay for the priviledge :) You go girl!

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 9:37:04 AM   
LotusSong


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314

I hate this!!!!
 
Personally, I am sick to death of posts debating women, whores, ProDommes et al---I find those terms insulting, cheap and degrading---quite frankly I don't give a rats ass what you call your "other" behind closed doors---but to refer to them as that publically IMHO is barbaric and crude---I don't see us posting and debating the definition of terms used on the male species---
 
If he or she is good enough to lick your ass and your boots, put up with your crap, mood swings, tributes whatever---they deem terms a hell of a lot better.
 
We discuss Pro Dommes ad nauseum---we never discuss drug dealers,  gun runners, slavers or anything that is an illegal occupation.
 
I have seen at least 5 threads in two days about whores--WTH?
 
IMHO the qualitative difference rests with the person who uses that term.


Ditto.  I know there are grand historical references to the words origin... but how many guys.. only had learned the word in the gutter and use it.  It's not something that indicates a lot of education on their part the way they use it.

I doubt if Master ED understand the original meanings.

(Who's Master ED? .. think about it :)  A new term)

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 9:38:50 AM   
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Well a slut is the one not doing you, the whore is the one doing everyone else but you, and the bitch is the chick doing both of them giving you a running commentary of how, when, and why (j/k-tic)


Priceless!

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 9:45:06 AM   
Submotive


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quote:

ORIGINAL: pqwinny

Since there has been a great deal of discussion in this area recently, i'd like to try to get some expanded input.  i was recently asked to research the differences between a slut, a whore and a bitch in the context of BDSM.  i haven't put any real effort into it but must admit the question of qualitative difference has been hauning me a bit.

Looking to hear the thoughts, opinions, ideas of others....let 'er rip! 


Would have to say when used in general, they all describe "players" those who have no regard for anything other than getting what they want - and i'm referring to male and female here and Dominant and submissive.
 
However, pqwinny - if you have been asked to do this research by your Dom - then perhaps you might seek a more legitimate source since most on here are just that from what i've seen. i have become sad to see how little regard there is for anything of value in this lifestyle or anywhere else. So on with the bitches, whores and sluts who have grabbed hold of this world and will lead it to its destruction.


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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 9:50:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyTantalize

This thread has me giggling!  A good thing!   And while I mostly agree with all of the sentiments contained herein, I submit the following.....

All of those who see Me professionally are .... sluts, whores and bitches..... and they are men!

*teehee*





Go figure!  Plus they pay for the priviledge :) You go girl!


Why is it ok for men to be called these names, but you get bent over women being called these names and it angers you? I am sincerely trying to understand here. I know some people think they are superior to others based upon gender or ethnicity, but it always perplexes me to see it, and I just do not understand the justification for such bigotry and prejudice as people show when they are sexist or racist.. why is it "You go girl!" when a woman calls a man such things.. but it is a crime for a man to call a woman such things?

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 9:55:21 AM   
LotusSong


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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyTantalize

This thread has me giggling!  A good thing!   And while I mostly agree with all of the sentiments contained herein, I submit the following.....

All of those who see Me professionally are .... sluts, whores and bitches..... and they are men!

*teehee*





Go figure!  Plus they pay for the priviledge :) You go girl!


Why is it ok for men to be called these names, but you get bent over women being called these names and it angers you? I am sincerely trying to understand here. I know some people think they are superior to others based upon gender or ethnicity, but it always perplexes me to see it, and I just do not understand the justification for such bigotry and prejudice as people show when they are sexist or racist.. why is it "You go girl!" when a woman calls a man such things.. but it is a crime for a man to call a woman such things?


In this case.. it's her job.

On this board.. just giving as good as we get.  kid stuff you know

I don't call these names to a man's face.. I do think them however.

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:01:02 AM   
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 Jasmyn said:  Well a slut is the one not doing you, the whore is the one doing everyone else but you, and the bitch is the chick doing both of them giving you a running commentary of how, when, and why (j/k-tic)


No, you ALMOST got it.  From 50 years of xy chromosome talk:

A slut is the one that does you.  She has to be a slut, because a "good girl" wouldn't do you.

A whore does everyone BUT you.  She must be being paid, and because you are a real man, you don't pay for it, ever.

A bitch just simply won't give it up to YOU.  She must be a bitch, because she's not overwhelmed by your innate cockliness.  By the way, "bitches" are also usually Dykes, because only a dyke bitch won't fuck YOU, you stud.

OK, now pulling off the cro-Magnon male mask, I note:

Only women have thus far posted on this thread.
Say what you will, men are rarely this nasty to eachother, or about eachother.
and (thanks for pointing this out in your excellent post, julia) you have proved that hypocrisy knows no gender.

(edited to say that my comments are NOT directed to Jasmyn, but to the thread, and most of those who posted.)

E.


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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:02:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Would it be ok for me to say, "I do not call Black people racial epithets to their face but I think them however"? Lots of people do, but it still makes them a racist, and you are being sexist.

I have been accused time and again of being a feminist, Im not, I am a humanitarian.. I do not like sexism, or racism, or homophobia. Im a mother or a son, Im a daughter of a father, Im a sister of a brother. I have been treated pretty damn good by those men who mattered. My father thought women were fabulous!

I guess I do not get sexism from men or women.. I just will never understand how anyone could feel superior to another based on their chromosomes. I think human beings are fascinating... even if most are filled with stupid prejudices and petty hatreds (myself included,... just not on the basis of inborn traits like gender or ethnicity)

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:07:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		  I do find this thread kinda funny as well, because it seems to relate to more sexual needs only.
Slut=someone who is open about something they like no mater what others may think.  ie: a painslut likes/loves pain it does not mean they enjoy sex.  A nudist could also be called a nudeslut, or nakednessslut....they love the feel of being in the buff, this though doesn't mean they are overly sexually active to anyone.  You could be a Dale Earnhart slut which means your one of those guys that has as much of their parafinalia, junk, stuff, whatever in your house garage etc.
Whore=is a sexual thing.  It comes from the fact of someone who has let go of their vows of marriage, or chastity to become sexual with others.  A sex slave is someone forced into sexual acts and the term whore was usually never applied to them.  Whores usually were once married women who either wanted to, or were forced usually by financial situations into selling themselves for sex.  In ancient times there was a difference between a whore and prostitute...yet today we have blurred that distinction....mostly because few people ever wish to know the facts.
Bitch=is derived from the female dog in heat, or if pregnant.  Usually this animal is very moody, could bite without warning, and be very resistful to their masters commands.  The term drifted to humans somehow and got stuck there.

I don't know if this helps, but its stuff I found out.  In the end remember....the truths we cling too depend greatly upon our point of view.

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:09:45 AM   
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However, pqwinny - if you have been asked to do this research by your Dom - then perhaps you might seek a more legitimate source since most on here are just that from what i've seen.
[/quote]

Thanks Sub...the original request to research the distinction came a while ago from a Dom i was chatting with.  His attempt to 'assign' a task far too early in the conversation was part of what caused me to move on.  So i never pursued it at the time, but as i mentioned it sort of stuck with me and made me wonder,  mostly a curiosity question and it's interesting to note the variety of reactions.

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:14:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bitch to me means a woman who is assertive, knows what she wants, demands the best from others and herself, and isn't afraid to get in someone's face if warranted. All good qualities...
 
Now "bitchy", on the other hand, means nagging, whining and just a general pain in this ass. I call myself a bitch, proudly. However, I am not bitchy...
 
A slut is someone who embraces and celebrates sexuality in all it's forms, whether or not they have multiple partners(or even one). I also say that I am an ethical slut...but I rarely get laid!
 
A whore is someone who either exchanges $ for sexual services rendered(not including ProDommes) or someone who threatens the sexual views/mores of another...and in their view must be denegrated for doing so.

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