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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/28/2006 8:14:41 AM   
thetammyjo


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ORIGINAL: tiger182


So I am a new submissive

and I don't want to obey her rules (just for a few seconds)

Knowing that I am new Im guessing she would not be as hard on me right?!


If you are looking for a relationship where you can be a Brat that is quite different than looking for a relationship where you are the submissive, the bottom, or the slave in my opinion.

Be honest about the dynamic you are looking for and you'll have greater success.

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/28/2006 8:26:49 AM   
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If it was playful, I'd play back by beating the hell out of you 



I guess this is what I was meaning 

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/28/2006 3:39:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tiger182

So I am a new submissive

and I don't want to obey her rules (just for a few seconds)
Knowing that I am new Im guessing she would not be as hard on me right?!


I'd simply wonder what you're getting out of this and if you are attracted to the idea of being disobedient and the ramifications of such or not bothered by the latter, maybe you should re-examine the nature of your relationship. Or at the least, impart your willfulness in a manner that would be mutually beneficial to you both. It sounds like you need to have a heart to heart with her and with yourself as well.

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/28/2006 4:10:05 PM   
Donnalee


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Is this even for real?  Come on.

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/28/2006 4:27:12 PM   
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Pretty simple....if you withdraw your consent to submit to me, we can't play any more.

Think of it like a basketball game that two (or more) people choose to play.  If one person suddenly decides that he doesn't feel like playing by the rules any more, if he decides to pick up the ball and do stupid things with it that are not in the rules of the game, you're not playing basketball any more.  You've just ruined the fun of the game for everybody.  And if you don't want to play basketball, or if you are blatantly cheating, the other person who does want to play basketball is likely to pack up their ball and go home.  Why should they stick around?  You've made it clear that you don't wanna play, and that you're choosing not to play.  So they will probably choose not to play either since you're no fun and no fair.

Now if your fantasy is a "resistance" or "punishment" scene, you can negotiate that in advance and then you will still be playing fair and not cheating or ruining all the fun for your play partner.

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/29/2006 2:14:41 AM   
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Hmmm....I detest shopping. Going into a mall is just pure torture for me. If you want to win my heart, don't take me anywhere close to a mall or shopping center.


  Just a facetious post MoG.... Kinda like the way to a man's heart is through Monday night football. Not all guys like Budweiser and John Madden, right?  ; }





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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/29/2006 10:16:22 AM   
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if faceslapping was a hard limit of a sub would you break it

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/29/2006 10:18:16 AM   
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since i have no Mistress...i'm pretty much free to do what i wish...what a drag THAT is...LOL

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/29/2006 9:44:47 PM   
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i personally think you mistresses, are a joke ..a nice sicillian slaps will put u in place...and smarten u upp  

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/29/2006 9:55:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tiger182

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

If it was playful, I'd play back by beating the hell out of you 



I guess this is what I was meaning 


Okay, the difference between being playful and being disobedient is in HER eyes, not yours.  Try it once.  If you still have your collar after that, quit while you're ahead.

But seriously, if she tells you to do something, do it.  Then go out and buy her flowers, chocolates, and give her a nice long foot rub unprompted, followed by a hot bath with some nice scented oils, and when she's really nice and happy with you, test out some playfulness.  You'll notice quickly whether she appreciates it or not.

And if you make a joke, and she doesn't smile, apologise and go back to being subly-like.

Yours,

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/30/2006 8:52:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tiger182


So I am a new submissive

and I don't want to obey her rules (just for a few seconds)

Knowing that I am new Im guessing she would not be as hard on me right?!





I wouldnt count on it.
I know I would not be very forgiving and a punishment would come.

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/30/2006 11:07:15 AM   
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lol, its never a good idea to disobey a Mistress. i certainly wouldnt disobey Mistress at all-cos i would pay with a sore bum-and if you willfully disobey a Mistress you would probably end up with a boot up your ass as you were dismissed. as i have heard of instances of when a sub wanted a spanking by deliberately breaking plates, all he got for his trouble was a bill to replace the dammaged goods as he was dismissed. i guess if you want things like that, all you have to do is ask-if you ask, all a Mistress could say is no- there is a 50% chance after all (depending on who the Mistress is) and if the Mistress is a sadist, She would probably say no any how-as any sub knows-the worst type of punishment is being ignored.


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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/30/2006 11:09:04 AM   
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lol, some subs would probably enjoy a boot up the ass (sorry couldnt resist that)

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/30/2006 12:09:48 PM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: tiger182
So I am a new submissive

and I don't want to obey her rules (just for a few seconds)

Knowing that I am new Im guessing she would not be as hard on me right?!

Knowing that it was deliberate, you'd be set out on your can on the curbside.  I don't take kindly to that sort of nonsense.  Either you want to be in service to me and you strive to do what I ask and to please me, or you hit the highway.  Deliberate disobedience is something I will not stand for.

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/30/2006 12:12:56 PM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

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ORIGINAL: cacodylic

quote:

ORIGINAL: tiger182

So I am a new submissive
and I don't want to obey her rules (just for a few seconds)
Knowing that I am new Im guessing she would not be as hard on me right?!


She might just dismiss you, it wouldn't be hard at all....


Nah..... I don't think they're that harsh...... I've found that once you make a lady mad at ya, the best way back into her heart is to take her shopping - Check their profiles, most all of them love to go shopping...and are experts at it. 

NONSENSE.  The quickest two ways to make me furious is to deliberately disobey me, or to try and buy me.  You and I were having a conversation about the 'non-submissives' and this is one of the things in my mind that sets the submissives apart from those who are not.  I would hope that a submissive driven to be pleasing would be more focused on the horror that I've been displeased than figuring out how to shut my ranting/punishment up.

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/30/2006 12:15:58 PM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: tiger182

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

If it was playful, I'd play back by beating the hell out of you 



I guess this is what I was meaning 

This is a dangerous game you're playing.  Think long and hard about how long it took you to find someone to give you control, guidance, pain, etc.  I'd have a sitdown with the mistress and discuss your "need" to be willfully disobedient and let her come up with a solution that works for the both of you.

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/30/2006 12:17:50 PM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: tiger182

So I am a new submissive

and I don't want to obey her rules (just for a few seconds)

Knowing that I am new Im guessing she would not be as hard on me right?!

Wait a minute.  You posted this on your first day on the website, and your profile says you're BRAND NEW and that you want someone to roleplay with?  I'm guessing you're talking about a hypothetical mistress here, and not someone who actually owns you?

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/30/2006 1:05:51 PM   
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A few choice words come to mind:  wanker, wannabe, brat, sammy
 
And I'm betting the list could go on.
 
You "claim" you only want mild treatment, well my punishment to you would be to boot your ass out and tell you to grow up and learn to respect the lifestyle.  Get a clue.
 
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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/30/2006 1:16:10 PM   
amaidiamond


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You know, I'm a sub and so technically should not be commenting but am unable to keep my mouth shut on this one...

Sounds as though you want to play up to get beaten/spanked/paddled/whipped etc by your Domme - you want play punishment
Real punishment is something totally different
If you want to play the naughty little boy that deserves a spanking then discuss it and negotiate it before hand.
There is a term that is used when a sub tries to manipulate a Dom/me into doing what the sub wants, it's called *Topping from the bottom*  Peoples general oppinion on subs that deliberatly do that is poor, as I am sure you have seen from most of the responses to your thread.

Sorry, that was in response to the OP - not to Leatherrose - just clicked reply in the wrong place.
Cotton wool in my brain tonight I think

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RE: not obeying a mistress - 8/30/2006 2:39:16 PM   
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(fast reply)

Been said already, but I personally don't enjoy brats or SAM's either, for that matter. If you think your time is better spent eluding, avoiding or ignoring what I am trying to teach you and train you for, I'd question *Myself* why I have you in My service, and dismiss accordingly.

If you are intrigued with the possibilities of 'what if' in terms of manipulating the punishment, physical or otherwise, that you secretly desire, I'd grant your wish in a similar manner and offer you My best punishment for an attention-seeking, manipulative twit: dismissal.



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