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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 9:08:35 PM

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Well, the moderators will straighten this out. A little birdie called "your IP address:" will quickly tell the mods whether or not these two profiles were created on the same computer or Internet connection.

If they were, then it's the usual scenario of somebody thinking they can play games with folks on the forums. If they were not, then Candi does in fact have a stalker/harrasser. At this point none of us except the site mods/admins know which it is.

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 9:09:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: GoddessCandi

I cannot believe how rude you are being.. I want this clone's profile deleted. Are you not smart enough to see that this princessacandy chic is not the real princess and would make her's idential to mine to try and steal my submissives... Just compare the info on her profile to the information on my website.. Then thnk about it then apologize.

No, she's not THE real princess is she? That's you, right?

I'll have to get back to you on that apology okay?

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 9:10:20 PM

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I have not and choose to not seek professional domination because I view BDSM as part of my sexuality and romantic relationships. I wish to pursue each at a personal level where the motivation to engage is mutual attraction. A scenario under which I might consider seeking professional domination is for the anonymity--to seek sadism unbridled by the personal connection that might otherwise hold it back. I feel to otherwise seek that type of sadism (where there is not personal connection) makes it more complicated to achieve trust.

When I meet a professional domme through a social context whom I find interesting, there is a degree of awkwardness. To respect her profession, I am hesitant to suggest play since I do not seek it at a professional level. I am more wary of crossing a boundary and treat that acquaintance or friendship as one without play until she suggests or hints otherwise. All things equal, I would be more drawn towards a non-professional Domme since I would feel to be on similar grounds and there would be less of a question about approaching interaction at a personal level (especially regarding how I might respond to listings of personals).

I think the importance of different aspects of a person varies with the type of relationship envisioned with that person. I have friends or play partners who are or were somehow involved with professional domination. I find many are socially attractive and interesting. I am fine with it for play or friendship. With a long term, exclusive relationship, the question becomes different (similar to how it would be for a long-term relationship with a rock star or any other profession where the profession might affect the relationship). I feel that (1) a relationship that has play with others, professionally or not, is not exclusive (and it should be either exclusive or not for both people), and (2) wonder how professional domination would affect desire for play at home.

Also, while I sometimes feel I could enjoy a profession based on BDSM (photography, quality website or video production), I do not see myself pursuing that path. I feel I would be most comfortable in a traditional profession respected by society at large. I would have more in common with someone who has similar views, and to me the significance of commonality (the dominant versus submissive role excepted ;-) ) increases for a companionship.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 9:32:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressTexas
Age has nothing to do with being a crappy Pro, and I believe (slightly biased here) that it has only a passing relevance to how good/dedicated a Pro is.

I take a road that is half way between yours and that of LaTigresse.

Age matters in that it affects experience and general maturity, which is relevant to professions and behavior in general. I expect you will agree you will have grown in many ways a few years from now.

That said, while age matters I don't think it is an absolute determinant. I have seen some people of a young age show more maturity, intuition, and experience than many who are older than them.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 9:38:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

Well, the moderators will straighten this out. A little birdie called "your IP address:" will quickly tell the mods whether or not these two profiles were created on the same computer or Internet connection.

If they were, then it's the usual scenario of somebody thinking they can play games with folks on the forums. If they were not, then Candi does in fact have a stalker/harrasser. At this point none of us except the site mods/admins know which it is.

I agree. For what it's worth, the profile creation dates favor the clone theory. The OP profile was created within the last few days, whereas the second person has had a profile since January.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 9:44:36 PM

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Funny how suddenly the OP's profile isn't coming up in search (as it did earlier) and appears to have been deleted. I seriously doubt this was the work of the Mods. No, I suspect it was someone with 2 profiles who bit off more than she could chew, got busted for trying to do some pathetic damage control and made a hasty retreat.

FUNNY!

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 9:57:56 PM

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Grinz,,,,,,anyone compared pictures of these two??????? If you still have the website addy, go look......just a thought.

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 10:43:37 PM

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ok.. fast reply.. lord have mercy.. but here goes.

candy, candi.. whatever

ok it's time for me to be impartial here. i WILL (or would have) given you this:

yes yes, i coined the "doggy style crotch shot" phrase. and i must admit, you did handle it in a way that exhibited a lot of maturity. you didn't attack anyone under (candy) and for that i can commend you.

from 16-19 i was a slave (not a sub.. i mean full on slave).. at 19 my then master felt i learned enough from him to take my place as a female dominant. so we're NOT attacking you because of age.. merely rather because of idiocy dear.

the ONLY problem i had with your website were your photos (ok so not the ONLY but the major prob).. if you get money bitches regardless.. then why the *come fuck me* poses? if you can get a man to tribute you with your mental prowess or utilizing their money fetish (which i actually deem as VERY legitimate.. myself i own 4 money slaves, i also have masochists, i also have rubberists etc ad nauseum).. but why the come fuck me poses?

i get the males i have by my intellect, my experience and my demeanour.

NOT from *face down ass up* pics. SORRY love. that sorta invalidates you. yeah i have a pic of my big ole black ass up on my collar me profile or my website.. YET you don't ever see me bent over like.. *oh come fuck me.* yer like, oh but don't ever expect to fuck me, i just want your dough.

ok now onto the LATEST crap since i've posted last.

your old profile is gone. ok. i don't have a triple tested IQ of 150 for nothing. i smell a rat.

if someone was a clone, please tell me WHY they'd have a livejournal link under the SAME name as your old profile here which is coincidentally now gone on collarme?

if i were to clone someone, i sure as fuck wouldn't promote their website or their livejournal which can be accessed via their website.. and furthermore NOR would i post in the pro domme section (thusly in a rather wane manner, attempting to draw people TOWARDS my progenitor?).. no, a clone would want you to look special like a short bus jerry's kid. NOT promote you.

errr. pump your brakes dear. you're not foolin' me.

sorry.. i feel you're busted.

personally, i think you probably made two profiles just in case a little unfortunate incident such as this transpired.

once again... i smell a rat. money slavery is one thing.

but i don't have nearly 14 years in this lifestyle (WAY before the net.. back when you had to answer personal ads in a newspaper and HOPE you didn't get your throat slit).. sorry, i'm not fooled. and having 5 pet rats myself (actual rats).. then i can SURELY smell a human 'tard rat-.. and dear that would be you.

i was all prepared to commend you on your handling of the initial responses. seemed rather adult like and RATHER un-doppelganger like.

now do you EARNESTLY expect us to believe, that badlillcupcake is being a bad little burnt cupcake and invading your collarme account, posting ads on your behalf advertising not only your website by but proxy your livejournal yet NOT initially being antagonistic but STILL being a clone? shit what clone do YOU know doesn't want to make an ass of the person they're cloning. let ALONE promoting said *progenitor*.

err no.

if that person was a clone they'd have ripped everyone here all sorts of new assholes in attempts to make you look bad.

i'll just chalk this up to your inexperience girlie.

try again. my bullshit-dar is going WAY off.

in the words of mr. T. i pity the fool that falls for your shit.

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 10:52:26 PM

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I agree. For what it's worth, the profile creation dates favor the clone theory. The OP profile was created within the last few days, whereas the second person has had a profile since January.

then why would that person make a thread under pro dommes knowing FULL well it would lead to the livejournal account stating that she has a clone? would not the clone realize that they'd be eventually outed via that action? why would that person put their website up knowing FULL well it would be promoting the person they're cloning?

come on.

wake up people.

am i the ONLY one that TRULY smells a rat?

give me proof and i am MORE than woman enough to apologize. i've been on the net long enough to recognize back pedaling.

i also have been in the lifestyle long enough on BOTH sides (slave & domme).. to smell a total fuckin fake.

pffffff (as my german bitches would say)

*edited this time for an egregious typo*

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 11:05:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: NINASHARP

Now you ask about chasitity devises. Well IMO, I would stick with just the fluff of princess stuff, if it is working for you. Chasitity devices should be handled with care and also should be properly sanitized and each kept for individual use only.

I would think it would depend on the chastity device. Some are more washable than others.

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 11:12:27 PM

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Well it wasn't too hard for me to find her real name, location and phone number, if you want I can notify the proper authorities, but without knowing a true crime has been committed wouldn't it be better to try to educate her then condemn her?

funny how she tore ass & hauled out nearly RIGHT after you said that and suddenly it's her *clone*.

oh geeze. anyone still attempting to believe that this is a serious *pro* domme or even a real anything truly needs to get a grip.

where are the weapons of mass destruction here?

seriously.. this is comedy, this shit needs to be on youtube

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 11:14:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess

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I agree. For what it's worth, the profile creation dates favor the clone theory. The OP profile was created within the last few days, whereas the second person has had a profile since January.

then why would that person make a thread under pro dommes knowing FULL well it would lead to the livejournal account stating that she has a clone? would not the clone realize that they'd be eventually outed via that action? why would that person put their website up knowing FULL well it would be promoting the person they're cloning?

I did not examine all details about linked websites and yahoo ids and the like. I see things that make sense or don't make sense in each direction. With the first profile no longer available to check information and claims made, I am content to allow either possibility and focus more on discussions this thread allows.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 11:19:44 PM

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Most people will be able to understand what is going on.

Oh damn straight my sugary dear. and i think MOST see right through this. jesus christ girl, get a more iron clad defense.

if your feeble defense were to be held up in court..

see ya in 10-20. your defense is as clear a window pane, darling.

you wrap yourself in your *clutching at straws* defense as LONG as you want. and you wrap yourself up in those lies like a warm blanket.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_603618/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#603618

yeah, because a clone would SO promote the person they're cloning

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 11:33:48 PM

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I did not examine all details about linked websites and yahoo ids and the like. I see things that make sense or don't make sense in each direction. With the first profile no longer available to check information and claims made, I am content to allow either possibility and focus more on discussions this thread allows.

Cheers,

Sea

i can respect that.. so i posted a link above this to her *pro domme* section of this site's introduction.

there is her website.. (if it's still up, hell i haven't even checked).. from there you can easily read her livejournal.

i am FAR from hating on her wanting to like capitalize on dipshits. but i know myself.. i've had TOO many clones nearly every site i'm on. i have had 5 here ALONE. not ONE of them made a post on the threads or any of the other threads or any of the other places.

they just use my pics.

if they WERE to use my pics and attempt to post, then they'd be derailed by my obvious eloquence.

sorry.

fake here.

and collarme only will better itself from an obvious fraud. notice how suddenly she's being clone here WHEN Nina mentioned something about pinging her?

for me.. i don't respond on any thread without reading EVERY tedious thread. i dont just read the last page and make a response (not of course saying you have.. i just know how it is on other threads).

i personally won't make an (un) informed decision or post without reading it all. if i feel it's TOO much to read i won't say shit.

i commented on her crotch shots and ass up doggy style pics on page two.

we're probably nearing page 6 now.

sorry.. FAKE

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/26/2006 11:55:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: Princessacandy

Im curious to hear the opnions out there on Pro Domina's... Like Myself...

I say more power to them..... I hope they are astute and make gobs of money. As far as me personally....why pay them when they are abundantly free

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/27/2006 12:05:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess
i am FAR from hating on her wanting to like capitalize on dipshits. but i know myself.. i've had TOO many clones nearly every site i'm on. i have had 5 here ALONE. not ONE of them made a post on the threads or any of the other threads or any of the other places.

You make interesting points about the question of two profiles by one person versus a clone.

I have some thoughts about the capitalizing on others idea but will save those for a later sitting.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/27/2006 3:34:08 AM

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also right under my picture to the lef of my words in the date i joined.. YOU idiot.. This is the last im posting into this topic.. Most people will be able to understand what is going on. Thanks for your time.

Yes, yes. I'M the idiot. The same idiot that outed you.

And you're right - most people will be able to figure out what's going on.

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/27/2006 5:54:20 AM

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Did I miss something? I thought I said I would *not* do a blackmail scenario... ???!!!

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ORIGINAL: NINASHARP

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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

I've had guys contact me with an interest in blackmail.... an apparently sincere interest. And I alwasy turn them down. First because I have NO interest in blackmail. And even if I did... and he gave me information to blackmail him with. Let's say that, later on, months or a year, or any time he either got tired, or his wife or g/f found out, or he was suddenly sorry tht he'd given away whatever he had given me... how the HELL could I prove that it was consensual??? I mean, even if I have the original emails and so forth, the FACT is that I still blackmailed him. Going to court I'd probably be exonerated, but that would depend on WHERE in the country adn the general liberality or not of the legal system there, plus I'd have to spend LOADS of money on legal counsel, and then there's the whole publicity aspect. Wow! There is no FREAKIN' way I would ever travel that road! I personally think anyone who does is nuts, and just asking for trouble, but that's just my opinion :)

Well, you are a very trusting individual LadyMorgynn. A part of being a professional or even lifestyle Domina would mean that one would/could have access to certain information that may not be privy to anyone other then their partner. IMO, Trusting someone in this manner is essential. Imagine if you had been the vengeful type and how many innocent lives would be harmed, including your own for having yourself in the type of situation you described.
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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/27/2006 5:58:51 AM

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Pro-Dommes would be fine...if they didn't charge

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RE: Opnions On Pro Domme's - 9/27/2006 7:32:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine
I've never met MisPandora, we've never talked, but I've read her posts and respect her opinions and love her delivery - now MisPandora can call me a loser if she wants (my treat ;-), MisPandora is okay in my book.

With the minimal amount of exposure we have with each other, a relationship of sorts was formed as poster and reader; that's enough to change the dynamic between two people. MisPandora has made an impact on me without actually directing anything at me; She didn't need to resort to pre-emptive insults.

Gosh, you're gonna give me a big head and an itchy whip hand! I mean, I can get down with the best of em and catcall and carry on like a fool -- I'm an ice hockey fan of a not-so-winning team. I'm used to it. But really, I believe in brutal honesty, and well, sometimes people need to be brutalized for the honest stupidity that they expose the rest of the world to!

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