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krys -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/28/2006 5:20:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

And since when is it a "Human Right" to sneak into a foreign country unlawfully?


Well the pilgrims didn't seem to have a problem with it.




philosophy -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/28/2006 5:42:04 PM)

""Xenophobia?" So, you want our speeding laws enforced but not our immigration laws? "

...no, i want all laws applied equally.....you have argued for the application of immigration laws but not speeding laws.......so yes, xenophobia. Come on Popeye, surely you don't deny this?




HarryVanWinkle -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/28/2006 7:14:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Philosophy, there's only three "Races"; Negroid, Mongoloid, Caucasoid.
The article didn't even mention which "race" these people were.
If these people were "Hispanic" as most in here are implying, that's an "ETHNIC group" not a "Race."
Being of "Celtic" heritage I can't go around claiming to be a different "Race"  than Caucaision now, can I?


Since all these so called races are fully interbreedable, I don't buy it.  As far as I'm concerned, there's only one race and that's human.




SkatDomina -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/28/2006 8:41:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I'm more worried about the family left behind by an illigal alien who murdered a police officer. An illigal who was once deported and just walked across our border to commit another crime. 


Why not be worried about both then you can't be accused of hypocrisy?




StrongButKind -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/28/2006 10:26:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

Since all these so called races are fully interbreedable, I don't buy it.  As far as I'm concerned, there's only one race and that's human.


That means they are the same species. There are different races. Like it or not, there are. If you don't like, procreate with people of a different race and continue the dilution that will hopefully eventually make race a non-issue.




StrongButKind -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/28/2006 10:32:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Lady Ellen, yup, that would be ok too.
"CASE DISMISSED!"
If I were on a Jury in a case like this I;m simply not going to find the person "guilty."
Illegals sneaking into ANY country should realize that bad things can happen to them.


No reasonable person can listen to this and not be horrified. You are a disgusting human being. I am ashamed to be a part of the same species. A lot of people would say they feel sorry for you, so driven past reason by fear or hate or whatever it is that consumes you. But I just wish you lacked the means to communicate your ugliness to others in a forum like this. Anyone not sickened by your comments in this thread should seek professional help.




philosophy -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 2:38:57 AM)

"But I just wish you lacked the means to communicate your ugliness to others in a forum like this."

...i'm sorry, but i can't agree with this part of your post. A wise man once said something along the lines of 'i may fight with you over everything you say, but i'll fight for your right to say it'.
Popeye has what i believe to be an honestly held view. i disagree with it for several reasons, as i have posted. However, to cut him off from debate is to deny the possibility of change. Essentially it is to give up, a surrender.
Never give up.




LadyEllen -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 2:55:15 AM)

It seems to me that those who have a problem with illegals, now could have a solution; Oh happy day!

All you need do, is to shoot them - and then run your car into their dying bodies. Since it was the running over by car which killed them, the most you will face is a charge of wounding - and then you can argue that it was a mercy shot after the car collision since they wouldnt have had medical insurance for treatment of their injuries. In any case, theyre illegals anyway, so have no right to be regarded as human beings - the most you might get is a small fine for using a gun in a prohibited place or the sort of fine you might get for running over someone's dog?

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LadyEllen -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 2:58:15 AM)

Even better. If a precedent can be set for illegals having no recourse or protection under the law, then you should immediately release all the serial killers still held in US gaols.

They can be set to the task of solving the illegal immigrant problem, enjoying themselves to their psychoses' content, and this will deter others from entering the US. Everyone's happy.

E




meatcleaver -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 3:02:49 AM)

I think for the preservation of endangered wild life, hunters should from now on be licenced to hunt illegal immigrants instead of wildlife. How's that for two birds with one stone?




philosophy -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 3:09:16 AM)

....i just wish this stayed an honest debate, instead of the point scoring. There is one of those hard-to-define-but-enormously-important points being debated here. From a discussion of a tragic accident, this has legitimately moved to a discussion about the nature of human rights. To whom do they apply? What classes as a human right? On a day when it is reported that the US has unilaterally changed the definition of torture this is the important point. Cheap point scoring off Popeye achieves nothing.
i will argue with Popeye as hard as i can when i disagree with him, and i will try to argue with him on facts or concepts. Sarcasm though just makes it harder for people to listen.




JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 3:14:00 AM)

I guess this would be the point where i just sit down in the chair, roll my eyes and say "we all agree to disagree"[:D]




meatcleaver -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 3:28:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: philosophy

What classes as a human right?



Human rights only exist where people have the power to define and enforce those rights. Otherwise they don't exist. The fact that Bush can alter them according to his political whim and the fact no one is really mouthing off about it because they think it only involves an enemy is proof of that.




LadyEllen -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 3:40:03 AM)

Human rights are those inalienable rights we have as human beings - unless we happen to be aliens in which case we are not human beings in the first place.

That seems to be about the score?

And MC is right - human rights only exist where we can enforce them. The problem here seemingly being, that we can now pick and choose according to our own interests, who qualifies as human, which rights are applicable when, and whose rights we feel like protecting today.

The slippery slope to dictatorship and absolute allegiance and submission to the Leader, lies before us once we start talking like that. If you want human rights - well then, obey and submit to the Leader. If you dont obey and submit then you no longer qualify as a citizen or a human being and all bets are off. Any good citizens here need an organ transplant? I should warn you though I'm not in such good shape......

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Nikolette -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 3:56:28 AM)

On behalf of the aboriginal people of North America (of whom I am a mixed breed descendant) I'd appreciate if you would please go home if you are living in the "USA".

We agree, we should have closed our boarders, but now that the US citizens are finally able to see that people don't be long here if they didn't arrive here legally, I think now is as good a time as any to get the fuck off our ancestral lands.

I really appreciate the sudden sensitivity to our plight.




LadyEllen -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 4:03:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Nikolette

On behalf of the aboriginal people of North America (of whom I am a mixed breed descendant) I'd appreciate if you would please go home if you are living in the "USA".

We agree, we should have closed our boarders, but now that the US citizens are finally able to see that people don't be long here if they didn't arrive here legally, I think now is as good a time as any to get the fuck off our ancestral lands.

I really appreciate the sudden sensitivity to our plight.


Love it Nikolette!

When they arrive here in the UK, they will be illegal immigrants too. So I will go fill the car up, so I'm ready.

E




Nikolette -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 4:09:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen


Love it Nikolette!

When they arrive here in the UK, they will be illegal immigrants too. So I will go fill the car up, so I'm ready.

E


LOL

I laughed until tears ran at that...




trannysub007 -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 4:21:59 AM)

"I normally don't take the side of police, but a car accident is a car accident,  not a deliberate act.  I wouldn't put someone in jail just for taveling at 112 mile per hour."
"Illegal aliens kill far fewer people than do American citizens.  No one
would have bet that an illegal alien who molested a twelve year old

would later kill a police officer. "
WhiptheHip, post #19
 
Was his car travelling 112 miles an hour because he was smashing the gas pedal, or because the car was out of control?  It's called vehicular homicide, Whip. People go to jail for that.
It doesn't matter in my mind how many people illegals kill as opposed to Americans.  Illegal alien. Alien just means stranger. Illegal is the operative word. Still, the guy should be put away for committing vehicular homicide. There is no excues for driving like that anywhere. Happened yesterday in New Jersey, a State Trooper on his way home ran a stop sign and killed 2 teenage girls. Hit their van so hard they were ejected from the driver's window. He should go to jail.
 




JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 5:18:02 AM)

I read that in the newspaper this morning....why should cops be exceptions to the law? He should serve his time but we all know a cop won't serve half as much time as one of us...sad but true...I am mostly Native American Indian (Cherokee) so I'm about to tell all of you'll to get off my land lol[:D]




meatcleaver -> RE: Off~Duty Vegas Highway Patrolman kiss Illegal Aliens while driving. (9/29/2006 5:22:43 AM)

We ain't havin' 'em back. [:D]




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