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thompsonx -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/22/2006 7:55:09 PM)

michael:
Men like women are not monolithic.  Not all men like sports or beer.  I sometimes have to stop and think if a particular team mentioned plays football, baseball or basketball.  If a particular boxer is a heavyweight or superflyweight.  You do not have to be gay to enjoy the opera or ballet.  When you stereotype men it is no different than when knuckle dragers talk of dumb blonds.  You do not have to hold hands and walk on the beach with a guy to be friends with a man.  Perhaps you might want to think of men as short haired girls without the hole in the middle.  Not all men are as you describe them.
thompson



MzMia -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/22/2006 8:44:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Morrigel

I dunno.  I tend to think sexual orientation is more a sliding scale rather than a binary choice.  The difference between "basically straight" and "violently homophobic" is how far you are pushed over into the red.  Some people have issues with same-sex contact that go far beyond simple indifference or disinclination:  I would say they have a real problem, for it to enter into the Hard Limit category.  For others, though, "heterosexual" doesn't have to mean anything more than "I am only really attracted to the opposite sex"--you don't have to be hysterically squicked or freaked out by people of your own sex.

Just think of it in the same terms as any other sexual inclination and this will make more sense.  There are plenty of kinks that I am not incredibly attracted to, and ALSO not incredibly squicked by.  I am neutral toward them--not my personal cuppa tea, but I might do them for someone else's sake, if I was kindly disposed toward that person.  For some people, same-sex play could fall into this category.
--M

To me you have to seperate judgement from reality.
Many men want to hide their bisexuality or inclinations, by
saying they were "forced".
I also have talked to MANY men that have engaged in oral sex with
other men and don't consider themselves bisexual.
I believe many men want to engage in these activities but do not want
the label of bisexual.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.



smart5333 -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/23/2006 5:04:57 AM)

I would love to be forced this is a turn on im bi



catfood -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/23/2006 12:04:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

well, you DO NOT know me, (formerly michaelGA2) so you have no right to call me a liar. you are one of the reasons i hate men. they all are egotisitcal know-it-alls and i do not subscribe to the male way of thinking.



a) i am not egotistical.  it's not egoism of you are indeed perfect, and omniscient. 

b) if you are so filled with loathing for men (and hence yourself), get a gender reassignment and leave us to wallow in our horrid nature without you. 

please, for god's sake, put away that broad brush.  this "all men are _________(fill in derogatory remark)" mantra is nerve-wracking, and just ignorant. 



catfood -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/23/2006 12:12:30 PM)

btw, what exactly do you base your opinions on? that vast reservoir of "10 years of online training (per your profile)."

geez louise, you got my panties bunched up. 



LotusSong -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/23/2006 5:09:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: catfood

geez louise, you got my panties bunched up. 


I find washing them in woolite works.. keeps the bunches down :)



homeboy1948 -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/27/2006 12:55:31 PM)

many subs ask to "be forced" into performing homosexual acts because they are afraid to do so on their own. The social & religous stigmas have dominated male sexuality for thousands of years and has become so ingrained into the male 'ego' mentality, that many need to be helped into performing bi acts. I am one of these and if I could find a domme in my area that would help me I would be grateful.  but there are none, so I continue to fantasize about it.

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devoT -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/27/2006 1:31:11 PM)

Homosexual activity is not something I'd seek out on my own, but if I were ordered to engage in it by my Mistress, I would do it. The act itself wouldn't turn me on, but being forced (yes, I know, THAT word) to do something would. Don't think it would turn me on enough to get an erection, so I doubt I could be the active partner though. Dunno, we'll just have to see, if it ever happens. I've got an open mind about it.

Actually, now I think about it, I suppose that "commanded" is a better word than "forced". Of course there is no real force involved, but I've made a commitment to obey my Mistress and I shall, otherwise I'm punished severely. I suppose it depends what I dislike the most, the homosexual act or the punishment for disobedience:-)



michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/27/2006 4:45:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

michael:
Men like women are not monolithic.  Not all men like sports or beer.  I sometimes have to stop and think if a particular team mentioned plays football, baseball or basketball.  If a particular boxer is a heavyweight or superflyweight.  You do not have to be gay to enjoy the opera or ballet.  When you stereotype men it is no different than when knuckle dragers talk of dumb blonds.  You do not have to hold hands and walk on the beach with a guy to be friends with a man.  Perhaps you might want to think of men as short haired girls without the hole in the middle.  Not all men are as you describe them.
thompson


i still have no need to associate with men. too much risk of having to tell them off for asking me about sports or some other dumb male stuff.



SweetDommes -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/27/2006 5:22:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: catfood


b) if you are so filled with loathing for men (and hence yourself), get a gender reassignment and leave us to wallow in our horrid nature without you. 

please, for god's sake, put away that broad brush.  this "all men are _________(fill in derogatory remark)" mantra is nerve-wracking, and just ignorant. 


For the record, I don't want him as part of my gender either.  I find people with attitudes like his (towards any group of people) to be repulsive ... which is why the forum gods gave us a 'block' feature.



LTRsubNW -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/27/2006 6:32:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: malebitchinatutu

Hello A/all,

i was wondering if the concept of forcing men to suck cock and/or be used by another man has been around for a long time or if this is something that has recently become popular in the BDSM community.

It seems like a lot of Dominas really enjoy seeing this done.  i was wondering if the Ladies like the act itself or seeing a man degraded/reduced to a pathetic cocksucker?

Thank Y/you for sharing!

bitch b


(Yada yada yada).



michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/28/2006 1:28:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes

quote:

ORIGINAL: catfood


b) if you are so filled with loathing for men (and hence yourself), get a gender reassignment and leave us to wallow in our horrid nature without you. 

please, for god's sake, put away that broad brush.  this "all men are _________(fill in derogatory remark)" mantra is nerve-wracking, and just ignorant. 


For the record, I don't want him as part of my gender either.  I find people with attitudes like his (towards any group of people) to be repulsive ... which is why the forum gods gave us a 'block' feature.


just a guess...You watch sports also?



subrob1967 -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/28/2006 1:37:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

just a guess...You watch sports also?



Actually both her and Holly hate sports, so I find myself watching the Bears, Blackhawks and Whitesox all by my lonesome.

She prefers CSI if you really want to know.



michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/28/2006 1:56:49 PM)

i like CSI (all versions)

i also have all the sports channels blocked on my cable box so, if i ever have company, they won't be able to access them without the code and i'm not giving that out...to anyone.



SweetDommes -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/28/2006 9:16:14 PM)

Aw, but now you've spoiled his belief that I dislike him because he doesn't like sports, rather than because he's prejudiced against a rather large group of the world's population.

But you forgot to mention that I also enjoy Futurama, Family Guy, and most anything on Animal Planet and History Channel ... but I suppose we should let the thread get back on topic LOL



cbts4gd -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/29/2006 2:02:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

And take all the fun out of what I do? Not a chance.



I am suprised not to see more post in this line, Ms Jasmyn. I thought 1/2 the turn on was getting him to do something he didn't want to.



mons -> RE: forced bisexual acts (12/30/2006 3:05:21 AM)

greetings
 
i am one domme who would not do this one reason is to me they are closet gay males and look for a domme who would help them find there way to a cock and have fun, now mind you i do not find this to be in bad taste (lol) or strange if the males enjoy then go for it. but i will not go out or except a ,male who wants this i think it is not a punishment they do get pleasure from sucking another male. it is the pleasure of humialation. i have alway taken males who first tell me of there dislike of this being done one male even left his mistress becasue of this being force on him, so i like someone who does not want to do this at all and i have nothing wwrong to say about the domme and the males it is just not for me. oh the only sport i will watch it tennis no other i hate them
best wishes
mons



subryan -> RE: forced bisexual acts (1/1/2007 12:32:55 AM)

I would do this for a domme I really cared about. If it turned  her on to see me suck a cock, I'm not sure what the problem would be. 

But I, though I've never admitted it to anyoneone other than myself, am sometimes attracted to men.  They say that a huge portion of the population is bisexual.  Unfortunately, our society condemns men who sleep with other men. So I just couldn't bring myself to put a cock in my mouth unless a woman I adored told me to do so. 

I would never bring it up nor would I ever request it.  Nevertheless, I would absolutely engage in bisexual play if ordered to do so  by a beautiful woman.



sweetchris -> RE: forced bisexual acts (1/1/2007 5:42:37 AM)

I'm not attracted to men. however I'd do it only if She enjoyed watching or enjoyed forcing me, if not then I'd never do it, nor would I do it on my own accord. I'd particularaly enjoy it more if I had no or little say in the first place, that would actually make it less emotionally disturbing due to it not being my decision.

I think people should give michaelGA2 a break, it doesn't make one less of a sub if they are against it, afterall its only one activity, the same person that is against forced bi, might be open to something else for example needle play.

By the way at the person that said something like "wake up and smell the coffee, if you do this your slightly or partly homo" I think thats a load of you know what, the primary motive for me and many others is the fact that She would enjoy it and She would like to see it. The subs desires theoretically should come second, if anywhere.





michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: forced bisexual acts (1/1/2007 5:48:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sweetchris

I'm not attracted to men. however I'd do it only if She enjoyed watching or enjoyed forcing me, if not then I'd never do it, nor would I do it on my own accord. I'd particularaly enjoy it more if I had no or little say in the first place, that would actually make it less emotionally disturbing due to it not being my decision.

I think people should give michaelGA2 a break, it doesn't make one less of a sub if they are against it, afterall its only one activity, the same person that is against forced bi, might be open to something else for example needle play.

By the way at the person that said something like "wake up and smell the coffee, if you do this your slightly or partly homo" I think thats a load of you know what, the primary motive for me and many others is the fact that She would enjoy it and She would like to see it. The subs desires theoretically should come second, if anywhere.





this is all well and good, but i wouldn't even do it at gunpoint. i do have my limits



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