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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 9:42:51 AM   
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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 9:43:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		nope, it was as equally moronic as those you lambasted as simpletons.

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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 9:48:52 AM   
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General reply to ANYONE who takes ANYTHING out here with any seriousness.

See? Why the fuck would anyone take some personal umbrage at anything written on this site?
It is so REAL and TRUE and goddammit you just FEEL and it is a LIFE and the core of your SOUL.

Fuck that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This shit should be fun as well  as fulfilling or get the fuck out.

People slinging dictionaries out here like a bunch of fuckin' Jehovahs Witnesses, for fucks sake. 

Sorry it don't vibrate somebodies piss flaps at the right sonic wavelength that people talk like Elmer Fudd...........

Your opinion has been expressed and ignored as ALL opinions are out here, don't feel unique abou it.

Don't try to change the world people, just learn to give better blowjobs.

Think Globally, but blow locally, K?

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Someone needs to give this man a blow job... sewiously... and no Ron I am not volunteering, but I am advocating for your position within the whole "blow job debate" debacle that has been going on lately.... Ron is right... More Blow Jobs For Evewywon

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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 9:49:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		julia....I think that we just have to agree to disagree. Not one time have I tried to control the content of yours or anyone else's posts. I gave my personal opinion on a specific behavior. I didn't say DON'T do it. I didn't say STOP doing it. I'm not sticking up for a friend, just because it was primarily directed at twicehappy it doesn't change my opinion on the behavior any more than it would if it had been you or anyone else here.

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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 9:53:14 AM   
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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 9:57:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well if I have mischaracterized you I apologize. I am not sniping at you Erin, if I were I would be doing it covertly on other threads. I am an Arian through and through... I am just a direct person and that offends people on the internet moreso than in the real world... if you could hear my words it would take the sting from them... like Sinergy... he hears my opinionated  judgmental ass on a daily basis... but my tone tends to take the sting out.

I am defensive over people I love and care for, and underdogs, and small children, and anyone else that I find to be belittled in some way that cannot defend themselves, so I understand your stance.

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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 10:35:45 AM   
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i have not read all the replies, so forgive me if this has already been said; however, those that use the word "twue" (egads that about did me in, typing that word) come across, imo, as brainless simpletons, who have lost (or never had) the ability to speak properly.  The sad thing is those that use that term, are probably at least of average intelligence, just trying to get attention.  Very much like a child that acts out in order to get attention, be it good or bad attention... it's sole purpose is for attention and nothing more.  Most certainly, they do not wish to appear intelligent.

(i am not yet completely awake, and am hoping that made sense).


Sadly, it did..........lol

agirl

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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 10:40:03 AM   
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You know owned, I just do not agree with you, I think people have the right to decide the content of their own posts within the terms of service. They can snipe (and they have surely done that to me lately), they can snark (seen a lot of that pointed at my Daddy too), as long as they are within the terms of service I really have nothing much to say about it.

I think this elitism thing is in the minds of those who worry about such things.... there is only one elite on this board in my life... my Daddy. I like the words of many that post here, you included, but I do not feel I have the right to "norm" people into the behavior I want from them. That includes using the word "twue" or starting threads pointed at what other people say on this board.

You have a problem with one form of normalizing our social behavior (the term twue), but think that threads designed to attack one or two posters for their posting behavior are just fine? I tend to agree with darkinshadows on this one... both are the same behavior... and yet you slapped one person on the back for it and deride others for the same thing.

I have developed a pet peeve on this board.... someone telling me what the content of my post should be.. well I am likely not to listen to them. They do not "dom" my writing. Using "twue" is not an insult. Talking about politics in my posts is not going to negatively impact what happens here. If people do not like what I have to say they can snark me (and they DO, I just do not create entire threads to point it out) or they can ignore me. I really do not care which... but I can tell you, I will write what I like within the terms of service. The only one that has veto over my posting habits is my Daddy.

So people can snipe at the number of posts I have by creating threads about it

Or try to tell me not to "beat a dead horse" in my debates

Or tell me it bugs them that I type like Elmer Fudd

All I have to say is if my behavior bugs them so much on a message board that is THEIR problem.. not mine

rant over



We can agree to disagree.  I am just not a fan of mockery in any form (unless it is my Master mocking me for his amusement).  I am not and will not comment about threads designed to attack others, other than to say I think that is just as wrong as mocking.  My comments that you quoted were not about anyone's thread, nor were they it to tell anyone how to post, what to think, etc.  They were just lil ol' me, expressing a point of view that I think mockery is unnecessary and silly.  And that I think the way "twue" is tossed around happens to be mockery.

You write lots of things I disagree with, Julia, and you also write lots of things I do agree with.  I do not believe I have ever suggested you ought not to express yourself. 

As for slapping anyone on the back and deriding others -  Erin will be the first to tell you that she and I have had some pretty ugly exchanges on this board.  I happened to agree with her point of view here, and so I told her that.  When I like what someone has to say, I tend to express it, because I think kind words are a good thing.  When I don't like what someone says, more often than not, I say nothing, because it only perpetuates argument, and I'd rather not go there. 

It was not my intention to deride anyone by stating my thoughts about a word.  I did not single anyone out, nor did I imply anyone when I made the comment. If someone disagrees with my point of view, they are of course free to express it.  But to take a general comment of mine personal, unless I expressly named someone, would be a mistake.

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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 11:04:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		That dratted word *twue*...lol

I've seen it used in really amusing ways, I've seen it used to make an interesting point, I've seen it used in a superior way that rankles slightly.........it's not the *word* ......it's how and when it's used, just like any other word or phrase.

agirl


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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 11:10:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Iskander

What would society be like if we always had this attitude while going through life? Do we in fact? Or is it just that it's safer to do from behind a screen?
Do we burp loudly in a crowded restaurant, cut in on queues at the bank?


i have not been posting long on these message boards but i have thought about the same thing.  i think that what people do on here is representative of their RL character....only if they do those things in RL, they will surely be shunned...or looked upon as idiots.  RL groups of people don't put up with that kind of behavior for long.
 
i have never seen such instances of rudeness and just plain moronic behavior as i have seen on these boards.  People making fun of others;  innuendo that just doesn't quit;  condescending remarks;  just plain ol' disrespect.
 
Yes, they can hide behind a screen because that is the only place they can get away with it.  i mean look at it realistically.  If you are in a group of people and someone refers to themselves as a "true" something and you don't like it, could you really walk around putting "w's" in all you words for the next half hour?  Well ya could....but you'd sound like a complete idiot.
 
Sometimes when i look up the profile of a poster, i am shocked to see their age.  They are in their 40s and 50s and sounding like 2 year olds. 
 
And if i hear the phrase "i have freedom of speech" one more time, i will surely puke.  People just think they can say whatever they want here with no repercussions?  Again, try it in RL and see where you will end up....most likely quite friendless.
 
i come here to discuss topics of interest.  i look for intelligent conversations.  i don't mind humor, but not at someone else's expense....and not to a point of just plain being annoying.  There are humor boards here...under off topic conversations.  If your sense of humor is that developed, then go share it there and leave the more serious conversations for those of us who are looking for that.
 
Reminds me of that one kid in class who has to disrupt the entire class just to get attention (as angelic referred to).  He (she) is like "look at me, look at me....ain't i important too?''  i had hoped that as adults, we would have all outgrown that stage....but apparently not 
 
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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 11:16:26 AM   
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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 11:22:02 AM   
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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 11:27:08 AM   
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If I say that I am "true" and "real" because of this, this and this....or I believe this is "true" and "real" because of this, this and this....that is stating what I feel is "true" and "real" in my reality. So long as I don't tell someone else that they have to adopt my lines of thought or live their lives in the same way I do in order to qualify to be able to use the words "true" and "real"....then I don't see a problem. I don't often see people on here telling others that they think that everyone should or has to live their lives in a manner identical to their own....but I often see people getting mocked over the "true" and "real" that apparently is the judgement that the "mocker" comes to and not necessarily from something that the "mockee" actually states.


Well, I am going to disagree with this because I think there 'is' a difference between someone such as yourself, a regular poster who speaks to their own unique situation and someone new coming on the forums for the express purpose of whining and complaining about the fact that they are the only 'true' submissive or dominant on Collarme and that every single other person who graces the site is a fake, loser, poser (insert deriding nomenclature here) and proceeds to vent to a board full of strangers in a most childish manner.

The flavor of the other side is distinctly different from the flavor of this side but someone coming in here for the first time isn't going to know that, so they bring their preconceived notions with them and then proceed to get lambasted for lumping everyone 'here' in with those over 'there.' People just don't like getting forcefully shoved into boxes, especially ones with the label of 'fake' and 'loser' on them.

When that happens, it doesn't surprise me that other children (or inner children) come out to see what the commotion is all about and start to play as well.

The word 'twue' is used to mock particular OP's.. and I think it's because people don't want to come out and say..

"Hey, you're a fucking idiot who is clueless and how dare you come in HERE just because you're a flake who doesn't have the wit to get yourself a partner on the other side! When you say that everyone is a fake, you are including ME in that description, fuckwad, and I'm NOT A FAKE!" That shit gets ya TOS'd into the cooler by the Mods.

So, instead some use the word 'twue' to get that point across.

It is the same point, however, just couched on the level of most of the original OP's who start threads regarding 'true' and 'real' life dominance and submission.

The sad thing is, most of those folks aren't going to get it and would be much better served to be blasted with the 'true' reaction of coming into a place and calling the whole kit n caboodle of collective posters fakes, liars and wannabes instead of posting it to their own journal on the other side. Then again, how often do those folks come back and post again after putting not just their foot, but their whole leg into their mouth. Imagine going into a biker bar wearing a letterman's sweater and dockers and calling all the Hell's Angels a bunch of sissy's. ::chuckles:: It's sort of the same thing, only here the blood left on the floor is virtual in nature. ::chuckles::

The clueless -  come here seeking empathy or sympathy to their plight, but the first thing which happens is they discard the entire group to whom they have addressed their vent because the first words from them are YOU ARE NOT REAL! ONLY I AM REAL! Then blah, blah, blah, whine, whine, whine .. and the pokes and prods start, one thing leads to another and pretty soon you have 10 pages of back and forth over the words real and true between a lot of regs and the OP has already deleted their profile and started a new one.

It's an amazing process to witness actually and no doubt we'll continue to witness it again and again. How often have we had an OP who opened up blasting everyone come back and say.. "Hey, maybe I made a mistake. Maybe I was wrong." In every single thread, there are going to be people who give serious feedback no matter how obtuse the OP seems .. and those are almost always ignored because the OP has an agenda and being given constructive criticisms isn't part of that agenda. Most come in to be coddled and when you're dealing with the whips and chains gang it's not the smartest move to make. Best to learn that early on, develop a thick skin.. that way when you go to play with a 'real' and 'true' sadist, you can take the beating from it.


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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 11:33:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

The word 'twue' is used to mock particular OP's.. and I think it's because people don't want to come out and say..

"Hey, you're a fucking idiot who is clueless and how dare you come in HERE just because you're a flake who doesn't have the wit to get yourself a partner on the other side! When you say that everyone is a fake, you are including ME in that description, fuckwad, and I'm NOT A FAKE!" That shit gets ya TOS'd into the cooler by the Mods.

So, instead some use the word 'twue' to get that point across.

Celeste





Amen Celeste...perfectly worded and referenced. 


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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 11:47:48 AM   
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This line got me thinking, I think it's an attitude most if not all people have had on fora at one time or another, I know I have... What would society be like if we always had this attitude while going through life? Do we in fact? Or is it just that it's safer to do from behind a screen?


I do not set out to hurt people with what I say, and if posting on the internet has taught me anything it is this: we utter words with one intention, but others receiving our words will interpret them the way they like... I can say the sky is blue, and 1 person in millions will take offense and think I am attacking them... it is all about perception after all.

I remember a certain post on a certain thread where you thought I was attacking someone, little did you know this person and I had been discussing in private the situation and I had more information than you did, she was not offended, you were offended.. why? Your perception of my words was wrong because you did not have all of the relevant information. Same goes for here.

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Is it because trolls etc have dragged all net communication down to their level, is it because it's a form of release where the only thing hurt is peoples pride? (surely a good thing?) Perhaps it's because society teaches us that competition is good, that it doesn't matter how many people you have to kick off the ladder to get to the top as long as you get there?



I have no problem with apologizing to people for perceived or real slights, but a lot of people would rather be burned alive than admit they are wrong. I find I tend to get further by apologizing for anything I say that might offend than by kicking the ladder out of under someone... at the same time unless someone puts bread on my table their opinion gets filed away as less important than those who do affect whether I have bread on my table... and most of us are this way, if we took everything seriously we would all be on prozac.. as someone that kicked an anxiety disorder without it I have come to the conclusion that we should not sweat the small stuff, and it is all small stuff.

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When ya think about it isn't it a fucked attitude?
I love clashing minds over stuff, heck, I'll play devils advocate, I'll take the piss out of myself, anything to have a stimulating conversation, with an open mind anyway.. But I'm starting to wonder if they still exist..


Every mind has something it is closed to, no one is exempt because we are all just human after all, and none of us escape being flawed....





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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 12:03:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bita, I do hear what you are saying. Maybe it's the medium of the internet that makes it seem more acceptable to some....for I surely can not envision being at a real time munch and having some newbie come in and state some misguided opinion about what they think or have been told this should be about and have all of the regulars drop into their best Elmer Fudd voice and say "Awww...youw not twue....nanny nanny boo boo!".

But the scenarios you presented are not what inspired me to post. What insipired me was a thread made my a regular poster who never once stated they were more true or more real...or that their way was the only way...only to be confronted by two entire pages of "twue"ery coming from other regular posters that ultimately had to be deleted by the Moderators.....and the gutless, chickenshit behavior of one poster who went so far as to hide behind the anonimity of a sockpuppet id "theTwuestofthetwue" to slam the OP.

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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 12:16:44 PM   
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But the scenarios you presented are not what inspired me to post. What insipired me was a thread made my a regular poster who never once stated they were more true or more real...or that their way was the only way...only to be confronted by two entire pages of "twue"ery coming from other regular posters that ultimately had to be deleted by the Moderators.....and the gutless, chickenshit behavior of one poster who went so far as to hide behind the anonimity of a sockpuppet id "theTwuestofthetwue" to slam the OP.


I missed that thread (most likely a good thing) but I did see it mentioned in one of the other posts on this thread. For that sort of chicanery, I would have to agree that such seems pretty gutless, but then I have no trouble owning my words and it would not dawn on me to fake an ID for the purpose of trying to prove a point in such a childish manner. If I believe it, I'll say it and with my own name. I'd rather get moderated than have to hide. If I am so ashamed of something I want to say, seems to me, I'm better off not saying it at all. I yield the point at it pertains to that case, but do believe the majority of OP's come in with a different agenda so stand firm on my post on the subject as a whole.

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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 1:07:57 PM   
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But the scenarios you presented are not what inspired me to post. What insipired me was a thread made my a regular poster who never once stated they were more true or more real...or that their way was the only way...only to be confronted by two entire pages of "twue"ery coming from other regular posters that ultimately had to be deleted by the Moderators.....and the gutless, chickenshit behavior of one poster who went so far as to hide behind the anonimity of a sockpuppet id "theTwuestofthetwue" to slam the OP.



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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 1:23:29 PM   
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Ahhh, but the problem lies in the moment you start deciding who decides what the true structure all the true followers really truely is. And I think that the true problem here is that you have alot of really decent but truely stubborn yet intelligent people with truely different perspectives wanting to push their perception of the one true way on everyone else. Then you get right back to the true beginning. It is a truely never ending circle of true madness. One I find truely preposterious for the true simple fact that it really truely does not matter at all except to our true selves and our one true one.....or onessssss. Outside of that, it is truely irrelevant.



Essentially correct, LaT.  But....

do you realize how much more powerful this would have been had you written it in Fuddian speak?

but that's just Me, I might be wrong and I'm off hunting wabbits...

...err  rabbits

E.

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RE: It's true NOT "twue"!!!! - 10/14/2006 1:26:58 PM   
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It is a truely never ending circle of true madness.


Excellent sigline material.


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