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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 8:16:31 AM

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why is it so hard to find a mistress to serve online that doesnt want money, all i want to do is learn from a mistress online how to serve so that when i am ready to serve one in real life i will be ready to. any kind of help would be appreciative.

I'm a big cynic, it's true, but I don't think you can learn online how to serve in meatlife. The two venues are quite different.

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 8:37:42 AM

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If you were taking any other course on line, utilizing the time from some other professional person, you would pay for their services, so why not in this case?.

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 9:06:19 AM

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why is it so hard to find a mistress to serve online that doesnt want money, all i want to do is learn from a mistress online how to serve so that when i am ready to serve one in real life i will be ready to. any kind of help would be appreciative.

It's hard to find a mistress because we're busy each day answering another guy that posts this same whine about not being able to find a mistress.

jay dont listen to pandoras whinning about guys whinning. she always whines hereself about others.shes going to fall from that high horse soon. youre question is ligitimate. most want a fee because they spend time with you and dont get anything out of it so thatswhy they charge.

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 12:01:38 PM

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jay dont listen to pandoras whinning about guys whinning. she always whines hereself about others.shes going to fall from that high horse soon. youre question is ligitimate. most want a fee because they spend time with you and dont get anything out of it so thatswhy they charge.

Pandora's contributed more to the BDSM community in real life than most folks here have a clue about. Actually most folks here don't seem to realize that there is such a thing as a real life BDSM community, since their entire attention is focused on themselves and their personal sexual gratification. And they whine when they don't get it. Pandora's not whining; you just don't recognize the perspective of someone who knows what works and what doesn't from experience in the real world.

Ya know, if nobody is personally getting anything out of spending time with you unless they get paid, that says a lot more about your social skills than about other people. There are dominant women out there who very much enjoy spending time with submissive men, as long as those men are intelligent, articulate, fun to be with, considerate, respectful and compassionate human beings. Whiners who are exclusively focused on gratifying their own dicks with absolutely no interest in their partners as human beings, no social skills and no willingness to share any part of their lives except the kinky stuff are NO FUN, and only the pros are going to put up with them.

If you happen to fit the description of a dick-focused random horny jerk with no life who demands that his fetish get fulfilled and doesn't appear to give a shit who's on the other end of the whip as long as she has a nice pair of tits, then nobody is going to get anything out of spending time with you. Except a pro. And all she'll get is money, because there are much nicer clients around that she will enjoy seeing a lot more.

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 3:31:10 PM

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Thank you kindly, Najak. The day *I* whine about there being no "twue submissive men" or other nonsense like that (in the reflection of how our male compadres have taken to doing it) on this board, I volunteer for all of you ladies to kick me non-consensually right in the side of the head with soccer cleats!

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 3:36:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: jayslave77

why is it so hard to find a mistress to serve online that doesnt want money, all i want to do is learn from a mistress online how to serve so that when i am ready to serve one in real life i will be ready to. any kind of help would be appreciative.

I am a "pro/lifestyler", but I don't take online training because I consider it a true and fundamental waste of my time. Period. If I ever did, it would probably be more costly than in person sessions, because I get even less out of it.

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 3:38:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sissypinky

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

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ORIGINAL: jayslave77

why is it so hard to find a mistress to serve online that doesnt want money, all i want to do is learn from a mistress online how to serve so that when i am ready to serve one in real life i will be ready to. any kind of help would be appreciative.

It's hard to find a mistress because we're busy each day answering another guy that posts this same whine about not being able to find a mistress.

jay dont listen to pandoras whinning about guys whinning. she always whines hereself about others.shes going to fall from that high horse soon. youre question is ligitimate. most want a fee because they spend time with you and dont get anything out of it so thatswhy they charge.

I thought MisP was being humorous, I may not always agree with what she types, but I would not once accuse her of "whinning".

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 3:42:57 PM

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looking for a Mistress ain't hard...impressing them...now that's the real chore...

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 4:01:10 PM

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jay dont listen to pandoras whinning about guys whinning

On the contrary, make sure you listen to her. She always makes sense even when she is being blunt and brutally honest. She is also one to put in very valuable information on all types of threads. She is knowledgeable and experienced. In this thread alone, she said nothing that almost every other one of us didn't say. Some of us stated it differently but the message was pretty much the same across the board.

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 6:04:01 PM

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If I had a penny for every time a slave approached me for some 'online' crap ... I'd be rich.

I don't waste my time with online crap beyond the 'get to know' phase. I have specific requirements. For example, I'd never be interested in the role of an online Domme. For Me and My House, it's a LIFE, not just a lifestyle. I suggest you come back out to play when you wish something more than wanker material. You even said you're not even ready to serve. Even your profile is almost trolling for a ProDomme.

If you attend a school ... to get you ready for a job, you PAY for the privilage to learn ... same here. Why are you whining about it?

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 6:40:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: Owned1
Maybe because many of the male submissives online are whiny demanding and if they were honest are truly only looking for wanker material
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LOL, that pretty much covers my opinion on online service. I must also lack imagination because the only way I can think of someone serving me online is financially, so I don't do online. M

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 6:45:27 PM

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not all men have the need for such "wanker" material, if that was the only reason i were here, then, to be quite honest, i think i could find other, more productive means for such endeavors.

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 7:11:06 PM

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nobody said all men

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 8:45:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sissypinky

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

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ORIGINAL: jayslave77

why is it so hard to find a mistress to serve online that doesnt want money, all i want to do is learn from a mistress online how to serve so that when i am ready to serve one in real life i will be ready to. any kind of help would be appreciative.

It's hard to find a mistress because we're busy each day answering another guy that posts this same whine about not being able to find a mistress.

jay dont listen to pandoras whinning about guys whinning. she always whines hereself about others.shes going to fall from that high horse soon. youre question is ligitimate. most want a fee because they spend time with you and dont get anything out of it so thatswhy they charge.

LOL How come I think of sour grapes when I read this, oh and btw sisy have you heard of spell check?

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/15/2006 9:33:54 PM

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LOL How come I think of sour grapes when I read this

Because sour grapes produce the best whine.

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/16/2006 12:23:55 AM

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youre question is ligitimate. most want a fee because they spend time with you and dont get anything out of it so thatswhy they charge.

I've been here a year and half.....get lots of mail, and with the exception of few trollops in the first ten days or so, I've never encountered the gold-diggers so many complain about here. If you're constantly being hit up by these types women....you need to look from within.... I suggest you take a look at your profile or your initial approach to the women you seek out, and reevaluate it.

Put together an entry in your journal that says '' You just finished watching the movie The Grifters eight times....and you're not intersted in any women who look like Anjelica Huston.

BOL.....

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/16/2006 3:26:23 AM

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I desire to serve a Mistress in real life. I am new at serving a Mistress too. I learn housekeeping skills at an early age. I feel real life is a good way to learn new skills. I feel there are Mistresses and Dommes who know that some male subs are new at D/s relationships. I feel that they want the male to have a desire and heart to serve them. The male needs to have the desire to learn new skills. You could list skills that you have in your profile.

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/16/2006 6:50:08 AM

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If you were taking any other course on line, utilizing the time from some other professional person, you would pay for their services, so why not in this case?.

The OP wasn't looking to pay someone for lessons though.

And to be blunt, I don't think online learning is the same as meatlife learning -- not in how well students learn information and certainly not in terms of how well the teacher can teach. You can learn some things but until you do it in meatlife, it isn't the same.

I also think that those basics of service are more about empathy (how do you teach that online?) and about focus on another person. Anything else is specific to the person served and serving.

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/16/2006 1:15:10 PM

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We are talking specifics here ... look at your profile. You scream ... TAKE MY MONEY!! Advertising a 'possibility' of IRL after online is not a good thing to do. Most will assume you wish to learn in theory, then what? You are unclear on what you want, what you seek and who you are seeking. Redefine YOU, then come back and let us take a look at something from the heart, something from you. In that, we can perhaps judge you a bit easier as truly desirous of the lifestyle if not the life.

Good luck to you.

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RE: looking 4 mistress so difficult - 10/21/2006 9:09:33 PM

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I can't think of anything more boring for me, than on line training.

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