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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 10:22:09 AM

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I would say that it depends. I will show respect to a dominant who is not mine, and if he asks me "Aqua, would you please go get me a soda?", then I will do so. Unless I'm currently at the bottom of a cuddle puddle. However, if he says "Aqua, go get me a soda" or uses another more familiar term, then I will remind him that I am not his and that I do not respond kindly to a lack of respect. I do not feel that I need to submit to all dominants all of the time. My submission to my dominant is complete and total but it is my gift to him because he earned it. It is not a gift I gave lightly, nor is one I am inclined to take back lightly, no matter what happens. But it something that he earned and others have not.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 10:42:37 AM

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I would never be rude to someone.
Civility is what can set us apart from the
other animals(two and four legged) here on earth.
~when in Rome,,act like a Roman~
If someone introduces themselves as Master anything..I get the giggles inside.
And my eyes can't lie..so I see problems looming there...
But...hell no..I have one Master,and I do what He says.
I think you should ask your Master what he wants you to do.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 10:48:10 AM

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The reason is simple some Dominants failed to get any education in what protocol means, that it has rules for the behaviour of both Dominants and submissives. When I addres a slave I use the title slave/boy/boi/girl/grrl (whichever applies) when they show that they too have a knowledge of protocol, I call other Domiant's I have no reason to disrespect as sir/ maam.

(NOTE: the difference between that idea and so many who have to have a reason to use sir or maam, rather than a reason not to.)

BTW when I call someone "slave XYZ" there is respect in my voice.When I call someone boyor oi there is a respect in my voice. The trouble is you have Instadoms running around thinking they actually know something about how they should be addressed without even 20 seconds thought given to how they should address others.

Sir I would be highly insulted if you as a stranger came over and called me slave!!

And as for the Sir or Ma'am (though I tend to use Miss more) I call everyone that even fellow sub/slaves it was something I was taught growing up though if they are my age and younger I may not use Sir or Ma'am depending BUT if I know your a jerk and you have lost my respect I no longer call you Sir or Ma'am. I dont care if your a Dom/me or grand puppa of cat piss. Though it takes a log to anger me enough to make me disrespect you and wish not to give you the titles you wish and often if it has gotten that far I have nothign to do with the person anyway.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 10:48:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
I do not feel that I need to submit to all dominants all of the time. My submission to my dominant is complete and total but it is my gift to him because he earned it. It is not a gift I gave lightly, nor is one I am inclined to take back lightly, no matter what happens. But it something that he earned and others have not.

BUT I R TEH DOMLY DOM MASTER LORD GOREAN ASSASSIN OF TEH BLACK CASTE. U WILL SUBMITE 2 ME RITE NOW R ELSE U R NOT REEL SLAVE! GET ME SODA NOW!

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 10:50:11 AM

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I've had more than one Dom here on CM demand that I call them "Sir". Personally, I consider that to be an earned title. I have no plans to begin calling every dominant Tom, Dick, and Harry Sir in the near future. However... under certain circumstances, you might hear me say "Yes, sir." or "No, sir." from simple courtesy and respect. It is not a title.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 10:51:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
I do not feel that I need to submit to all dominants all of the time. My submission to my dominant is complete and total but it is my gift to him because he earned it. It is not a gift I gave lightly, nor is one I am inclined to take back lightly, no matter what happens. But it something that he earned and others have not.

BUT I R TEH DOMLY DOM MASTER LORD GOREAN ASSASSIN OF TEH BLACK CASTE. U WILL SUBMITE 2 ME RITE NOW R ELSE U R NOT REEL SLAVE! GET ME SODA NOW!

Thanks a lot you made me choke on my lunch LOL

((giggles so hard her belly hurts))

and you forgot ON UR KNEES BITCH

Magik's slave

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 10:52:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
I do not feel that I need to submit to all dominants all of the time. My submission to my dominant is complete and total but it is my gift to him because he earned it. It is not a gift I gave lightly, nor is one I am inclined to take back lightly, no matter what happens. But it something that he earned and others have not.

BUT I R TEH DOMLY DOM MASTER LORD GOREAN ASSASSIN OF TEH BLACK CASTE. U WILL SUBMITE 2 ME RITE NOW R ELSE U R NOT REEL SLAVE! GET ME SODA NOW!

Great... now I'm cracking up in my school's computer lab and people are looking at me. I'm so glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read this.

And I'm so damn geeky I want to change it to:

BUT I R TEH DOMLY DOM MASTER LORD GOREAN TENTH LEVEL ASSASSIN OF TEH BLACK CASTE.

Note to self: Not everything is an RPG Aqua.... Even if it does make it funnier.

Edited because I can't spell

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 10:57:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave
Thanks a lot you made me choke on my lunch LOL

((giggles so hard her belly hurts))

and you forgot ON UR KNEES BITCH

THAT WAS BECAS MY MOM CAME IN AND FOUND ME ON TEH COMPUTIR AND COUDNT FINISH TYPING.. BUT I AM REEL DOMINATE LIFESTYLE MASTER W/20 YRS EXPERENCE SO U SUBMITE 2 ME. RITE NOW. ON UR KNEES BITCH. I WILL DOMINANT U.

- LORD MASTER BLACKTHORN NIGHTDRAGON DEATHCLAW BLOODSMACK TEH MIGHTY
TENTH LEVL ASSASSIN/MAGIC USER/WARRIOR/NINJA OF THE BLACK CASTE OF GOR

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:00:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave
Thanks a lot you made me choke on my lunch LOL

((giggles so hard her belly hurts))

and you forgot ON UR KNEES BITCH

THAT WAS BECAS MY MOM CAME IN AND FOUND ME ON TEH COMPUTIR AND COUDNT FINISH TYPING.. BUT I AM REEL DOMINATE LIFESTYLE MASTER W/20 YRS EXPERENCE SO U SUBMITE 2 ME. RITE NOW. ON UR KNEES BITCH. I WILL DOMINANT U.

- LORD MASTER BLACKTHORN NIGHTDRAGON DEATHCLAW BLOODSMACK TEH MIGHTY
TENTH LEVL ASSASSIN/MAGIC USER/WARRIOR/NINJA OF THE BLACK CASTE OF GOR

Now I'm laughing so hard I can't breathe... I need to stop checking these forums while in my college lab.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:13:16 AM

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OK thats it I give up you guys dont want me to eat lunch I see!!

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you might get out
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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:15:38 AM

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OK thats it I give up you guys dont want me to eat lunch I see!!

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It is part of the evil plan! If you can not eat lunch, then you will grow weak. As you grow weaker we shall slip in and collar you for ourselves. After that you will be tickled without mercy! *evil cackle*

I mean what, I'm just an innocent little thing.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:16:19 AM

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Taking tongue out of cheek here, the hilarity is actually meant to answer the OP's question. There are a lot of people out there to whom it would be unwise to submit. At best it is silly and meaningless, and at worst it could be detrimental to your personal safety to encourage folk of this ilk I would have to ask the folks who feel that it is appropriate for all subs to submit to all doms whether they would agree to the demands of the self identified dominant....er, excuse me, TEH DOMINATE MASTER, portrayed in the above posts.

Another potential issue is that some dominants are simply annoyed by displays of submission from subs who don't belong to them. I know that I am. I'm not talking about simple courtesy and graciousness, which is a desirable trait in anyone regardless of their D/s orientation. I personally find it inappropriate when someone displays overt submission towards me without bothering to check on whether or not I consent to participate in any kind of D/s exchange with them. I usually ask politely to be treated like a non scene person who does not participate in D/s, because as far as some random stranger is concerned, I am NOT a consenting participant in their scene.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:16:56 AM

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I agree that the submissive partner should treat others in the manner in which their Dominant directs them. I try to be courteous as a rule. I usually do not refer to anyone who i have no type of relationship with, even that of friendship as Sir or Ma'am, but if i want them to know t hat i acknowledge their orientation i will often use the terms Mr or Ms.

isn't this a bit rude and irrelevant?

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I remember you from your short lived time at another site, hopefully you do not try to share those same beliefs you revealed there anylonger.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:21:16 AM

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Taking tongue out of cheek here, the hilarity is actually meant to answer the OP's question. There are a lot of people out there to whom it would be unwise to submit. At best it is silly and meaningless, and at worst it could be detrimental to your personal safety to encourage folk of this ilk I would have to ask the folks who feel that it is appropriate for all subs to submit to all doms whether they would agree to the demands of the self identified dominant....er, excuse me, TEH DOMINATE MASTER, portrayed in the above posts.

Another potential issue is that some dominants are simply annoyed by displays of submission from subs who don't belong to them. I know that I am. I'm not talking about simple courtesy and graciousness, which is a desirable trait in anyone regardless of their D/s orientation. I personally find it inappropriate when someone displays overt submission towards me without bothering to check on whether or not I consent to participate in any kind of D/s exchange with them. I usually ask politely to be treated like a non scene person who does not participate in D/s, because as far as some random stranger is concerned, I am NOT a consenting participant in their scene.

I had never considered it from the point of a dominant receiving unwanted submission. I bet that does get annoying. Have you experienced this a lot? For some reason I would assume a dominant would more likely to try and exert their dominance over a submissive that wasn't theirs then a submission would try to serve a dominant they didn't belong to.

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It was ok for him to beat me but then he tried to cuddle me! - Me

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:23:39 AM

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It is part of the evil plan! If you can not eat lunch, then you will grow weak. As you grow weaker we shall slip in and collar you for ourselves. After that you will be tickled without mercy! *evil cackle*

SLAVE SLUTS LIKE U R NOT ALLOWID 2 EAT LUNCH! U WILL EAT ONLY SLAVE GRUEL FED 2 U BY THE HAND OF UR MASTER. THAT WOULD BE ME. U SUBMITE 2 ME NOW AND U WILL GET UR SLAVE GRUEL. THEN U WILL BE COLLARID 2 ME. & BRANDID. ON TEH FORE HEAD. B4 U R ALLOWD 2 MEET ME IN REEL LIFE. BECAUS I AM REEL LIFESTYLE MASTER.

AQUA U BAD SLAVE GIRL. U NOT ALLOWID 2 COLLAR MAGIKS B4 I DO. SHE WILL B MY SLAVE GIRL NOW. I COLLAR EVERY ONE. I FOUND SEECRT WEB SITE WITH SPESHIAL RULES 4 DOMINATION OF ALL. IT IS HERE: http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:26:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
It is part of the evil plan! If you can not eat lunch, then you will grow weak. As you grow weaker we shall slip in and collar you for ourselves. After that you will be tickled without mercy! *evil cackle*

SLAVE SLUTS LIKE U R NOT ALLOWID 2 EAT LUNCH! U WILL EAT ONLY SLAVE GRUEL FED 2 U BY THE HAND OF UR MASTER. THAT WOULD BE ME. U SUBMITE 2 ME NOW AND U WILL GET UR SLAVE GRUEL. THEN U WILL BE COLLARID 2 ME. & BRANDID. ON TEH FORE HEAD. B4 U R ALLOWD 2 MEET ME IN REEL LIFE. BECAUS I AM REEL LIFESTYLE MASTER.

AQUA U BAD SLAVE GIRL. U NOT ALLOWID 2 COLLAR MAGIKS B4 I DO. SHE WILL B MY SLAVE GIRL NOW. I COLLAR EVERY ONE. I FOUND SEECRT WEB SITE WITH SPESHIAL RULES 4 DOMINATION OF ALL. IT IS HERE: http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html

Can I have her when you are done with her?

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:28:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
It is part of the evil plan! If you can not eat lunch, then you will grow weak. As you grow weaker we shall slip in and collar you for ourselves. After that you will be tickled without mercy! *evil cackle*

SLAVE SLUTS LIKE U R NOT ALLOWID 2 EAT LUNCH! U WILL EAT ONLY SLAVE GRUEL FED 2 U BY THE HAND OF UR MASTER. THAT WOULD BE ME. U SUBMITE 2 ME NOW AND U WILL GET UR SLAVE GRUEL. THEN U WILL BE COLLARID 2 ME. & BRANDID. ON TEH FORE HEAD. B4 U R ALLOWD 2 MEET ME IN REEL LIFE. BECAUS I AM REEL LIFESTYLE MASTER.

AQUA U BAD SLAVE GIRL. U NOT ALLOWID 2 COLLAR MAGIKS B4 I DO. SHE WILL B MY SLAVE GIRL NOW. I COLLAR EVERY ONE. I FOUND SEECRT WEB SITE WITH SPESHIAL RULES 4 DOMINATION OF ALL. IT IS HERE: http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html

((falls off her chair in a fit of giggles))

Now Im getting funny looks from the animals!!!

All you real twue Dommanents should start behaving damnit!!

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:29:31 AM

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MajiksSlave,

Just wondering what is the idea behind the feeling of offense you would feel if I were to address you as "Good evening slave" (as a title form)with a repectfull nod passing in the dungeon? To me acknowledging the possition with respect, reguardless of what the possition might be is a acknowledgement of truth and in no way means "I'm better than you" or "I out rank you", it simply means I recognize you as a slave, girl, boy, chosen pronoun, and honor your choice.

and I am being honestly curious as to the why you would find it offensive?

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:34:23 AM

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I had never considered it from the point of a dominant receiving unwanted submission. I bet that does get annoying. Have you experienced this a lot? For some reason I would assume a dominant would more likely to try and exert their dominance over a submissive that wasn't theirs then a submission would try to serve a dominant they didn't belong to.

I think it's more of an HNG thing. I've had issues with guys who start drooling on my feet by way of first introduction (literally at one play party!!!) and addressing me as Mistress, while doing everything but overtly jacking off. Actually I had that happen at a play party also. Ugh. That's icky and I don't want any.

Maybe those experiences soured me, but I feel similarly icky when there's even a hint of something like that going on. I feel like I am being used as a nonconsenting object for someone else's sex fantasies, a cardboard cut-out Domme figure that they are setting up as a prop, and I dislike it a lot. I am here primarily to make friends and socialize, and even if I am interested in someone as a potential play partner, I want to talk to them like a normal adult human being first and see if there is some mutual liking and respect there before we jump right into play space. If I get the feeling that they don't like or respect me because they don't even care who I am beyond tits and a whip, I really don't wanna play. Hell, I don't even wanna be in the same room with them.

Also as a dominant and an alpha, I feel intensely responsible for anyone who is "mine" on any level, anyone who looks to me for protection by offering their submission. It's not a reasonable feeling, but it is triggered by overt submission. I don't consent to take responsibility for people I don't know or trust, so I prefer not to relate to them as dominant or alpha. Just my personal views here.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 11:35:06 AM

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MajiksSlave,

Just wondering what is the idea behind the feeling of offense you would feel if I were to address you as "Good evening slave" (as a title form)with a repectfull nod passing in the dungeon? To me acknowledging the possition with respect, reguardless of what the possition might be is a acknowledgement of truth and in no way means "I'm better than you" or "I out rank you", it simply means I recognize you as a slave, girl, boy, chosen pronoun, and honor your choice.

and I am being honestly curious as to the why you would find it offensive?

I know this question was not directed at me, but I would like to offer my opinion, if I may.

I would be somewhat annoyed by someone "Good evening slave" to me, though it does sound better then "Good evening submissive". The reason I would be annoyed is because I prefer to be called by my name by most people in most situations. I do not feel that this makes me unsubmissive because I am is a submissive, so Aqua, my name, is in a way, a title of submission.

However, in the context and respectful manner you have mentioned, I would probably just smile and wish you a good evening. If we encountered later I would ask you to use my name from then on.

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Without my dominance you cannot submit. Without your submission I cannot dominate. You are my equal in this, though our roles are different.-Val

It was ok for him to beat me but then he tried to cuddle me! - Me

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