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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 6:23:57 PM   
daddysprop247


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Daddy says i do rank somewhat higher than our cat


You've got it good, I'm way below Masters dog....dang


sometimes thems the breaks. lol

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 6:30:29 PM   
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Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
 
I am not responding specificly to any 'one' or anything but, something that has been ommitted up to this point has come to mind.
 
Submission can/may have limits and or have conditions.  In the real life world we place limits upon ourselves and interactions with others.
 
In the M/s, D/s, BDSM and or S&M context though, when approached by a slave/submissive to whom gives submission freely and to all, it then becomes those who are not that slave's/submissive's Owner,
Dominant and or Trainer; to not take advantage of them. 
 
It is also important to consider, that when asking a slave or submissive that belongs to another, to do something; that it is a request and not a demand.  If the slave/submissive is not to comply, it shouldn't be taken as an insult--just a state of circumstances.  At times, the shoe needs to be on the other foot, as to see from another mind's eyes.
Then the world of submission and or service, through all the many
'flavors' there are in that world, can be appreciated.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 
 

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 6:58:28 PM   
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Submission can/may have limits and or have conditions.  In the real life world we place limits upon ourselves and interactions with others.

 
I agree with that, good point. I suppose thats the difference between martial arts (example I used) and D/s bdsm etc, martial arts has a known code of conduct across the board pretty much, that brings everyone together (well is designed for that), everyone knows their place in the scheme of things and everything is ok, wherein in the bdsm scene, everyone is making it up as they go along according to their desires...which leaves room for indvidual interpretation in regards to behavior expected ..not necessarily a bad difference...but a difference nonetheless.



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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 7:00:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247
about hopping in some stranger's car if told to do so, if out alone yes i probably would, as that is what my Master has trained me to do. however such a scenario could never occur for a multitude of reasons, the primary one being the fact that just because my Master has trained me to be non-resistant and submissive to all as he has, he is extra protective of me and places many restrictions on me...such as not going anywhere alone, not answering the door, etc.


Nobody lives forever.  Has your Master considered what could happen to you if he gets hit by a truck, or drops dead of a heart attack, and made contingency plans to protect you in that case?

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 8:54:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slavejali

quote:

Daddy says i do rank somewhat higher than our cat


You've got it good, I'm way below Masters dog....dang


LOL guess im lucky Master don like Aminals!!

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 8:56:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

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ORIGINAL: slavejali

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Daddy says i do rank somewhat higher than our cat


You've got it good, I'm way below Masters dog....dang


sometimes thems the breaks. lol

LOL Master's dog definitly ranks higher than I do



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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:07:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I gotta say... that just sounds like a bad idea to me. Sumbitting to all men can be rather dangerous. Would you hop into a stranger's car just because he was a man or see there a point where you will tell a man to fuck off? Just curious.

By the way, where do submissive women stand on the equal/superior thing? Because if you only consider slaves to be your equal, then a good percentage of BDSM are above you. I can't speak for every submissive but I don't care for being thought of a slave. It's just not what I am.


AquaticSub...you're right, at least as far as status is concerned, the great majority of people are above me, D/s, bdsm, or vanilla. however, Daddy says i do rank somewhat higher than our cat Scooter. ;) for me, that is a comfort. i am proud to be a slave and especially proud to be HIS slave. but it's certainly not a path for everyone.

to respond to your first point....there's no point where i would ever tell anyone, male or female, to just "f*** off". i'm not allowed to ever present myself in such a manner...it would be disrespectful to my Master. about hopping in some stranger's car if told to do so, if out alone yes i probably would, as that is what my Master has trained me to do. however such a scenario could never occur for a multitude of reasons, the primary one being the fact that just because my Master has trained me to be non-resistant and submissive to all as he has, he is extra protective of me and places many restrictions on me...such as not going anywhere alone, not answering the door, etc.




*Blinku* You would really get in a stranger's car just because it was a man who told you to? Hon you have no survival instinct. I really hope nothing ever happens to break up you and your dom because it sounds like you are really easy for a killer.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:08:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247
about hopping in some stranger's car if told to do so, if out alone yes i probably would, as that is what my Master has trained me to do. however such a scenario could never occur for a multitude of reasons, the primary one being the fact that just because my Master has trained me to be non-resistant and submissive to all as he has, he is extra protective of me and places many restrictions on me...such as not going anywhere alone, not answering the door, etc.


Nobody lives forever.  Has your Master considered what could happen to you if he gets hit by a truck, or drops dead of a heart attack, and made contingency plans to protect you in that case?




Good point. This really freaks me out. Whenever I mention to my dominant that some man was bothering me at a party he asks me why I didn't deck him. I am trained to defend myself as he doesn't want me going anywhere!

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:14:43 PM   
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Daddy's prop has a different outlook on things I have in the past debated with her about things but in the end wether we all agree or not this is how she beleaves her reality to be. So just leave her be... No need to make her keep defending herself to others..

You cant save people from themselvs and remeber "a man convinsed against his will is of the same opinion still!!"

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:25:26 PM   
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I suppose but it just... urgh... so blantly begging to be raped and killed... Maybe it's because I grew up where a serial rapist and murderer was active. I just can't stand it!

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:29:09 PM   
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I suppose but it just... urgh... so blantly begging to be raped and killed... Maybe it's because I grew up where a serial rapist and murderer was active. I just can't stand it!


I know and I got that same feeling last time I talked with daddysprop when she said things about beeing a slave and such that I wont go into here but its pretty easy to find hers and my posts on that but I felt helpless like I cant beleave someone feels this way that they could let that be going on to them let people treat them taht way... but then i realised SHE is happy so really waht does it matter. I dont agree but I dont have to she is happy it is her life she isnt forsing her life on me so who am I to try and forse mine on her.. it still upsets me and frustrates me but not nearly as much.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:31:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I suppose but it just... urgh... so blantly begging to be raped and killed... Maybe it's because I grew up where a serial rapist and murderer was active. I just can't stand it!


I know and I got that same feeling last time I talked with daddysprop when she said things about beeing a slave and such that I wont go into here but its pretty easy to find hers and my posts on that but I felt helpless like I cant beleave someone feels this way that they could let that be going on to them let people treat them taht way... but then i realised SHE is happy so really waht does it matter. I dont agree but I dont have to she is happy it is her life she isnt forsing her life on me so who am I to try and forse mine on her.. it still upsets me and frustrates me but not nearly as much.

Magik's slave


You are probably right. Let's just hope nothing happens to him and that he never gets bored with her. Don't know if she could make it without him anymore.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:35:54 PM   
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I would wonder why you would lost respect for your master because the actions of another, that is very perplexing.

no not lose respect for my Master.. gawd never lol
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  it tends to lose my respect for them as i feel its a lack of respect for my own Master 

in this i mean that their lack of respect towards me in their actions and expectations in essence is a lack of respect for my Master.

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:38:09 PM   
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 I dont know if Im makeing any sence 

 yes making sence MagiksSlave
 
thanks for your comments

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:42:27 PM   
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 dont get me wrong, most times i will call Dom/mme's Sir or Ma'am, specially if i am introduced to T/them by my Master, but its the "kneel bitch" online or the assumption in r/t that i will do what they say just cause T/they're Dom/mme that i dont cop to, nor am i expected to

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:42:32 PM   
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Here is the link to that thread Aquatic Hon.. interesting read.. you can see our difference in thinking.. I must say i dont know if I handled myself well a get a little to pationet about stiff like this but here you go

http://www.collarchat.com/m_631901/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:46:56 PM   
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 thanks for your opinion subjected2006
 
Master has given me guidelines on how to act with others, i am never disrespectful, in posing my question to the room i am just asking for opinions on the subject so again thanks

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:49:39 PM   
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BUT I R TEH DOMLY DOM MASTER LORD GOREAN ASSASSIN OF TEH BLACK CASTE.  U WILL SUBMITE 2 ME RITE NOW R ELSE U R NOT REEL SLAVE!  GET ME SODA NOW!

 hahahahahahahahahaha

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:53:50 PM   
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Another potential issue is that some dominants are simply annoyed by displays of submission from subs who don't belong to them.  I know that I am. I'm not talking about simple courtesy and graciousness, which is a desirable trait in anyone regardless of their D/s orientation.  I personally find it inappropriate when someone displays overt submission towards me without bothering to check on whether or not I consent to participate in any kind of D/s exchange with them.  I usually ask politely to be treated like a non scene person who does not participate in D/s, because as far as some random stranger is concerned, I am NOT a consenting participant in their scene.


 Najakcharmer,
well said, and yes i can see where it could go both ways, i too have seen this and personally wouldn't do it myself, nor did i do it before i was collared, thank You for Your opinions.. and sense of humor

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RE: belong to One not all - 11/20/2006 9:58:46 PM   
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Just wondering what is the idea behind the feeling of offense you would feel if I were to address you as "Good evening slave" (as a title form)with a repectfull nod passing in the dungeon? To me acknowledging the possition with respect, reguardless of what the possition might be is a acknowledgement of truth and in no way means "I'm better than you" or "I out rank you", it simply means I recognize you as a slave, girl, boy, chosen pronoun, and honor your choice.

 
Archer..
i would not find this offensive, is only when it is done disrespectfully, a simple greeting by the title you were given i dont think is offensive.. specially if the P/person doesnt know the person involved. Those i would know, know me by my name given to me by my Master and call me by it.
~lil~
thank You for Your comments.

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