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The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 8:37:51 AM   
mistresssavanna


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Is Collar Me the only BDSM site you use, or do you frequent the other two "big" sites, bondage and Alt?
 
I am writing to you today as a warning to heed when visiting ALT in particular.
Some of you may know Me from visiting this site, as I held a top 5 position in the blogs for almost two years.
My reasons for blogging in general are quite different than the reasons most people blog.
 
I am the President of The International Core, a worldwide BDSM organization that promotes safety in the lifestyle for all, especially newbie submissives and Dominants, provides educational programs designed to inform and enlighten, mentorship programs, and a tremendous political agenda that is poised to oppose the growing trend by the religious rights organization to outlaw many BDSM activities.
I am not sure if you follow such events, but the changes going on right now in the UK are mind blowing.  The UK has long been considered the "Kink Capital" of the world and the kink lifestyle as they knew it, is crumbling.
 
There are various activities, you may be engaged in now, which if you live in the United States, may actually be illegal, depending on the state you reside in.
 
ALT is owned and operated by Various Inc.   They own all of the Friend Finder sites, including all of the vanilla ones.
 
ALT is simply another money making vehicle for them to capitalize on the online dating market.
 
They do not care about the members, and they care even less for the safety of those new to the lifestyle.
 
As you may already know, our lifestyle is filled with fakes and predatory individuals.  Because our lifestyle, if you are into S&M, involves physical activities designed, in many cases to inflict pain, you have a lethal combination that is a breeding ground for those who seek to abuse this lifestyle for selfish gain.
 
There are many who have become knowledgeable in this lifestyle but are not qualified to participate in it.
 
A slave is not simply a slut to abuse.
The D/s relationship is about so much more than this, with love and trust, an essential component.
 
The BDSM Guardians exist on all of the BDSM sites, and are a large Part of The International Core organization.
 
Yes, they are here, on Collar Me, and they are watching out for you and those  like you.  We operate within strict conduct and confidentiality guidelines.
 
We are soon to be launching the Safe CALL Hotline.  It is a toll-free number, available to members and non-members alike, which enables those who may not have someone to set up a safe call with, the opportunity to do so.
 
The main site of The International Core is a non-commercial, free site.  It does not rival any of the BDSM sites because it does not have a personals end, (yet), and we do not charge membership fees.
 
My entire existence was wiped off of ALT recently because they had gone through My email and found that I had been directing members from ALT to the TIC website forum, where most of the activity goes on.
There are about 27 different teams, all volunteer, including the Guardians and the Safe Call Hotline team.
 
ALT is aware of the work of The International Core, and, even after viewing the website, deleted My profile and ability to participate in the group there.
 
If you know Me, you may know that I reach many people. I am extremely controversial and outspoken.  I personally mentor over 100 individuals, both on and offline.
 
After extensive discussion with the ALT organization, and signing an electronic agreement that I would not longer promote the off ALT website, they still deleted My existence there.
 
They are simply out to get your money. They do not care about you. They do not care if their members are putting themselves at risk.
 
I urge you not to join with paid memberships.  Use their services but do not pay for them.
 
Services like Collar Me, which are free, provide much more in the way of a BDSM site. 
 
I know CM earns revenue through paid links on the site, including links to the AFF sites.
 
I do hope this post will not be blocked.
 
It is in the interest, and for the safety of all those involved in our lifestyle that I write.  I do not seek monetary gain.
 
If you are interested in joining The International Core, you should know it is not a social group. It is a participation only group.  You may join any team you like but action is required for membership.
 
 
We exist to make a difference.
 
 
Warmest Regard to all of you,
 
Mistress Savanna ~C
 


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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 8:43:16 AM   
TheProtector


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I got well fed up with ALT many years ago, CM is far better, not shocked at what went on, there about one thing only money, thats it, and they do everthing they can to get members, never mind if there in the life style or not.


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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 9:03:37 AM   
mistresssavanna


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Dear Protector,

I like your handle. *smiles

It is My intention, and My goal to bring them down. *smiles again.

Thank you for your comment.  It is necessary to protect those who are unaware of what is going on.

Regards,

Mistress Savanna ~C

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 9:19:03 AM   
crouchingtigress


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i was a paid member at alt for 6 months...what a waste of time and money...yeah i agree its all about the money there.
 
you seem to be doing good work cool idea the safe call line....sure some will say safe calls only lead you to the body, but i dont agree, if done in the presence of your play mate for the evening it puts them on notice that you are not totally clueless.
 
anyway about them deleting your profile...that is creepy...but i have said this before and ill say it again i dont know about where you live but Craig's list.org has yielded so many more folks for me to meet and play with then ALT ever did....score so far:
 
 ALT _O ...240 bucks spent
 
Craig's list 3 submissives, one pony boy, two excellent friends, 9 casual friends, 1 kinky chess partner, and a couch.....Zero dollars spent
 
Good luck with you adventures....
 
amy

< Message edited by crouchingtigress -- 11/25/2006 9:20:20 AM >


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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 9:28:56 AM   
crouchingtigress


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just an aside...with all the camera phones in the world maybe a hot line caller could zap a photo your way too....licences and and all that can be faked pictures cant be....
 
ps i know most of us have well developed intuition, been around abit, and have done some home work and dont need safe calls but the folks that are new might.

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 10:06:38 AM   
mistresssavanna


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Dear Tigress,

No, I have not tried Craig's list, and that is an interesting possibility.
I live in New York, which is the unofficial BDSM capitol of The United States.

I maintained My presence on ALT for the purposes of safety and education through The International Core. 

I have met a few through ALT, but that is only because of My offline notoriety.  Without this, I think I would be in the same situation.

The bottom line is, ALT does not care about the safety of it's members, regardless of whether or not they pay.
So I say, allow them to keep their vanilla sites, but get them out of the Alternative realm.
They suck! lol

Regards,

Savanna

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 10:12:00 AM   
mistresssavanna


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Dear Amy,

Yes, these suggestions are wonderful, however, there are confidentiality issues to consider. TIC's legal deparment is constantly in turmoil over these very topics.

It is a very effective tool, yes, in preventing that which COULD happen.

Anything one can do, is more than doing nothing.

Please visit the forum:
http://www.visualboom.com

Regards,

Savanna ~C

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 3:22:09 PM   
DsGUARDIAN


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SAVANNA, GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE.  MAYBE WE FOUND A NEW HOME.

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 3:23:43 PM   
cuddleheart50


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Oh my gosh, its Santa!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 4:57:33 PM   
mistresssavanna


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MY DEAREST SANTA,
 
HOW APPROPRIATE THE BDSM GUARDIAN TEAM LEADER OF THE INTERNATIONAL CORE SHOULD BE COMMENTING ON THIS POST!
 
I HAVE ALWAYS FOUND THIS SITE TO BE MUCH MORE FRIENDLY AND HONEST.
 
IN ORDER FOR US TO PROMOTE SAFETY ON THE BDSM SITES, WE MUST BE PERMITTED TO EXIST. 
 
ALT HAS NO REGARD FOR THE SAFETY OF IT'S MEMBERS.
 
THE VENDETTA HAS BEGUN AND THE ASSAULT AGAINST ALT.COM HAS BEEN LAUNCHED.
 
WE WILL SEE HOW LONG THEY ALLOW ME TO EXIST WITH MY NEW HANDLE.
 
THE MORE THEY TRY TO COVER UP, THE MORE WE WILL USE NUMBERS TO CRUCIFY THEM.
 
YES, I AM HARSH. I HAVE DISDAIN FOR ANYONE WHO CAPITALIZES ON THE MISFORTUNE OF OTHERS.
 
YOU LOVE ME ANY WAY I CUM THOUGH, DONTCHA SANTA?
 
KISSES,
 
SAVANNA ~C
 
 


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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 5:00:14 PM   
texancutie


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lol cuddleheart...too cute...

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 5:02:49 PM   
mnottertail


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I'd toss in a fiver if you folks would spring for some miniscule lettering, I get eye stuttering going on when it gets big like that all the time.




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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 5:11:02 PM   
SamKeithsslave


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cuddleheart50

Oh my gosh, its Santa!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh thats wicked, but I must say it was my first reaction too LOL
You know I have always had a thing for Santa................

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 5:16:37 PM   
Kalira


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quote:

A slave is not simply a slut to abuse

I disagree  Master can use his slave in any way he choosed to do so
quote:

  The D/s relationship is about so much more than this, with love and trust, an essential component

And I disagree with this. Not everyone is looking for love. While there is a caring between Master and I, we do not love each other, nor do I look for such an emotion in the future.

And while I commend you for looking out for those who you feel are unable to do so themselves; this post of yours sounds more like an advertisement than anything else.

/shrug

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 5:17:21 PM   
marieToo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cuddleheart50

Oh my gosh, its Santa!!!!!!!!!!!!


lmaoo........Oh my God.......you really do have a badgirl streak

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 5:21:58 PM   
cuddleheart50


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Im sorry, I didnt mean to be mean...it just took me by surprise...lol

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 5:34:43 PM   
pixelslave


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quote:

ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

i was a paid member at alt for 6 months...what a waste of time and money...yeah i agree its all about the money there.
 
you seem to be doing good work cool idea the safe call line....sure some will say safe calls only lead you to the body, but i dont agree, if done in the presence of your play mate for the evening it puts them on notice that you are not totally clueless.
 
anyway about them deleting your profile...that is creepy...but i have said this before and ill say it again i dont know about where you live but Craig's list.org has yielded so many more folks for me to meet and play with then ALT ever did....score so far:
 
 ALT _O ...240 bucks spent
 
Craig's list 3 submissives, one pony boy, two excellent friends, 9 casual friends, 1 kinky chess partner, and a couch.....Zero dollars spent
 
Good luck with you adventures....
 
amy


crouchingtiger,
I agree with you about Alt.  While I've made a few nice friends there, one of which pointed me to here , overall it seems to be about money and is mostly full of people looking for quick hook-ups, not serious LTR's.  When my Gold subscription expires next month, I definitely do not plan to renew.  The only times I check my account on Alt these days, is when I receive a notice that I have a message waiting for me there.

I feel as though I have found a new home here on CM and am very pleased to have done so.   I love the boards and community that exists here.  There is nothing that compares to it on Alt.

- pixel

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 6:18:16 PM   
oddity83


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Tried both Alt and Bondage neither of which done me any good. Both kept asking for money, so I stopped using them. No luck on Craigslist, but hey giving that live so far from the nearest city that has a CL site, its no shock.

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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 6:25:25 PM   
stef


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistresssavanna

YES, I AM HARSH. I HAVE DISDAIN FOR ANYONE WHO CAPITALIZES ON THE MISFORTUNE OF OTHERS.
 
You'll find that people here have disdain for anyone who capitalizes EVERYTHING when they post.  It would be nice if our new found friends from the "International Core" would locate and use their caps lock keys.
 
~stef


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RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites - 11/25/2006 6:33:41 PM   
alwaysobeyingyou


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Ugh - Chill out pretentious people.... It's a web forum, not your living room.

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